So....
I bought some OEM software from Amazon marketplace... like a chump. I went for Windows 7, I like Windows 7, I've used Windows 7 at work for years... frankly Windows 8 looks like a complete abortion so I was glad Windows 7 was still available OEM.
Anyway fast forwards a few months, I turn on my PC and I get a message + black backdrop and.... my version of Windows is non genuine!!!!! WTF
Time to contact the **** who sold it to me on Amazon.... write a strongly worded mail and... error - the seller is no longer on Amazon... what a surprise.
So phone Amazon customer service, nope too late... have to go for a refund via my credit card. Fine I'll charge back via credit card, looks like I'll have to pay a few more $$$ to Microsoft.... but no, of course, I can't get a new license as they're not doing Windows 7 licenses any more, my only option is to upgrade to Windows 8
FML!!!!!!!!! :roll:
I bought one not long ago, still readily available as oem if your building a new system or putting it onto a new system which you are really, about £76 on Scan.
Out of interest how much did it cost on Amazon? I guess cheap which is why you went for it.
Regardless of what they tell you, you should read terms and conditions, when i used to sell for a company on Amazon their returns policy was outrageous and you could send stuff back open boxed upto 6 months after purchasing.
All the above aside, you purchased (unknown to you) illegal pirated software on Amazon, surely the onus is on them to sort this out, or are they simply outside of the law?
well they've said they have a 90 day policy and after that I should charge back via my credit card... tis AMEX so shouldn't be an issue getting my money back
though on the other hand I do have possession of the bit of paper with the key along with the disk, though this key wasn't sealed or anything so I suspect they could have used it themselves on other systems.... I wonder if MS can do anything given that I seem to have the 'legit' one and anyone else using the same key technically doesn't?
I paid £40...
I guess I could go for another OEM windows 7 disk and just hope the same thing doesn't happen again - it would be more reassuring if the key itself was concealed in unopened packaging to remove to possibility of them having already used it
Linux Mint :)
Windows 10 is released in a week or so...
free upgrade with a Windows 8 licence
Quote from: Dave on July 15, 2015, 12:23:48 PM
well they've said they have a 90 day policy and after that I should charge back via my credit card... tis AMEX so shouldn't be an issue getting my money back
though on the other hand I do have possession of the bit of paper with the key along with the disk, though this key wasn't sealed or anything so I suspect they could have used it themselves on other systems.... I wonder if MS can do anything given that I seem to have the 'legit' one and anyone else using the same key technically doesn't?
I paid £40...
I guess I could go for another OEM windows 7 disk and just hope the same thing doesn't happen again - it would be more reassuring if the key itself was concealed in unopened packaging to remove to possibility of them having already used it
£40 is nearly half the price of an OEM so that should give you an idea of the products legality :P
I presume these guys are a bit dodgy too?
https://softwaregeeks.co.uk/product-category/windows-7/?gclid=CMy4hfHX38YCFSsKwwodfQcOQQ
am not quite sure what to go for... whether to get windows 8 and the free upgrade or just windows 7
I certainly don't want to use windows 8
(will be installing linux on another partition bear)
this one I'd be fairly confident isn't dodgy:
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/software/microsoft-windows-7-oem
Quote from: Dave on July 16, 2015, 13:53:50 PM
this one I'd be fairly confident isn't dodgy:
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/software/microsoft-windows-7-oem
All the cheap ones are either dodgy or they are using either single use oem licences they pull from corporate machines, or licences that are generally tagged to computers like Dell / IBM etc already and reselling them.
The OEM on a well known store is your best option but it is £70 or as egg said go the Windows 10 route
hmm isn't there direct x routines that are only from Win 8 compatible?
Quote from: Bacon on July 16, 2015, 19:43:22 PM
Quote from: Dave on July 16, 2015, 13:53:50 PM
this one I'd be fairly confident isn't dodgy:
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/software/microsoft-windows-7-oem
All the cheap ones are either dodgy or they are using either single use oem licences they pull from corporate machines, or licences that are generally tagged to computers like Dell / IBM etc already and reselling them.
The OEM on a well known store is your best option but it is £70 or as egg said go the Windows 10 route
so presumably the single use oem ones have already been used on corporate machines and they're selling them again? So presumably I'd just get the issue from microsoft again if I went with one of those?
Quote from: Dave on July 17, 2015, 17:21:35 PM
Quote from: Bacon on July 16, 2015, 19:43:22 PM
Quote from: Dave on July 16, 2015, 13:53:50 PM
this one I'd be fairly confident isn't dodgy:
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/software/microsoft-windows-7-oem
All the cheap ones are either dodgy or they are using either single use oem licences they pull from corporate machines, or licences that are generally tagged to computers like Dell / IBM etc already and reselling them.
The OEM on a well known store is your best option but it is £70 or as egg said go the Windows 10 route
so presumably the single use oem ones have already been used on corporate machines and they're selling them again? So presumably I'd just get the issue from microsoft again if I went with one of those?
Thats how i always interpreted it because they were already branded Dell / IBM etc, it was software bundled with system builds, the ones you see on Ebay for £30-40 like this seem to be just the disc in a sleeve cover with the code inside and not sealed. I assume they have already been tagged to machines, the only way to go about it is buy off a long standing Ebay seller and if it goes tits up in 3 months you got something to fall back on.
I only ever buy proper software now, you get what you pay for, but you got to think do you want to pay £70+ for an end of life OS, me personally i'm happy sticking with 7 for now.
Seriously?
On Sunday I fell though a factory roof, straight down 20+ft and landed on my head
Skull is in 4 bits and held together by staples
Left shoulder is broken
Thing left shoulder fixes too is broken
Collar bone is broken
Right arm was broken but they operated on it while I was awake and watching so that's fixed now
8 broken ribs
4 buggered bones in back
2 in neck
Eyes don't work properly
Can't sit up for more than 5 min without passing out
Yesterday 2 nurses put me in the shower, I've got no idea what happened but the next thing I knew I was on the floor hyperventilating with 5 nurses trying to get me up, I covered myself, the walls, the shower and everything else in there in my own sh*t, which I painted on by hand caveman style
Today I opened a bottle of pop and my middle finger snapped, I didn't want to tell anyone so I used my blanket to hook a commode and used it as a wheel chair to steel a roll of rape to fix my finger.... By the time I got the tape ready I realised there was nothing wrong with my finger
My point is, I'm a total cabbage
And I still wouldn't buy a copy of windows on Amazon
I'll post photos if you dont believe me.
Quote from: knighty on July 20, 2015, 22:27:06 PM
Seriously?
On Sunday I fell though a factory roof, straight down 20+ft and landed on my head
Skull is in 4 bits and held together by staples
Left shoulder is broken
Thing left shoulder fixes too is broken
Collar bone is broken
Right arm was broken but they operated on it while I was awake and watching so that's fixed now
8 broken ribs
4 buggered bones in back
2 in neck
Eyes don't work properly
Can't sit up for more than 5 min without passing out
Yesterday 2 nurses put me in the shower, I've got no idea what happened but the next thing I knew I was on the floor hyperventilating with 5 nurses trying to get me up, I covered myself, the walls, the shower and everything else in there in my own sh*t, which I painted on by hand caveman style
Today I opened a bottle of pop and my middle finger snapped, I didn't want to tell anyone so I used my blanket to hook a commode and used it as a wheel chair to steel a roll of rape to fix my finger.... By the time I got the tape ready I realised there was nothing wrong with my finger
My point is, I'm a total cabbage
And I still wouldn't buy a copy of windows on Amazon
I'll post photos if you dont believe me.
Do you ever get the feeling you should just stop?
I'm seriously worried I'm going to end up a proper cabbage tbh
Quote from: knighty on July 21, 2015, 13:28:08 PM
I'm seriously worried I'm going to end up a proper cabbage tbh
Wtf were you doing up on that dodgy roof!
Fixing it after it was on fire of course!
(Serious)
Just took a photo of my head because it was so itchy
I knew about the broken skull and staples fixing it
Cheeky gits kept quiet about the massive bald spot tho!
(http://i.imgur.com/XB40VRs.jpg)
I fell over at the weekend and cracked my head open also, this seriously puts it into perspective - I didn't even need stitches.
You really need to start looking after yourself!
Stitches? Stitches?
Thry put staples in, (with a staple gun) to hold my skull together, never mind the flap of skin on top :-p
P.s. everything hurts
:( Hope you fully recover soon, man.
Are you still in hospital or have you discharged yourself early like you always seem to do?
Baldness comes to us all!
yeah home now, accident Sunday 12th, woke up in hospital on Tuesday after, out on Tuesday after that :-)
i think... my days are a bit mixed up
kind of lucky that the physio they assigned remembered be from about a year back when i crushed my left wrist so was pretty cool, just told me what to do and left me to do it instead of faffing about and making me stay in so he could watch :-)
slightly worrying i was unconscious for the important bits at the start, so im not quite sure what is normal and what isn't... my broken left shoulder looks like someone cut it open, pushed a golf ball under the skin then sealed it back up again...
That's some bald spot mate. No wonder you went into hospital.
Quote from: knighty on July 21, 2015, 13:28:08 PM
I'm seriously worried I'm going to end up a proper cabbage tbh
end up ?
Quote from: Sam on July 27, 2015, 23:44:31 PM
Quote from: knighty on July 21, 2015, 13:28:08 PM
I'm seriously worried I'm going to end up a proper cabbage tbh
end up ?
I see what you did there :)
Get well some 'knighty' Get some insurance :P)
Quote from: knighty on July 20, 2015, 22:27:06 PM
Seriously?
On Sunday I fell though a factory roof, straight down 20+ft and landed on my head
Skull is in 4 bits and held together by staples
Left shoulder is broken
Thing left shoulder fixes too is broken
Collar bone is broken
Right arm was broken but they operated on it while I was awake and watching so that's fixed now
8 broken ribs
4 buggered bones in back
2 in neck
Eyes don't work properly
Can't sit up for more than 5 min without passing out
Yesterday 2 nurses put me in the shower, I've got no idea what happened but the next thing I knew I was on the floor hyperventilating with 5 nurses trying to get me up, I covered myself, the walls, the shower and everything else in there in my own sh*t, which I painted on by hand caveman style
Today I opened a bottle of pop and my middle finger snapped, I didn't want to tell anyone so I used my blanket to hook a commode and used it as a wheel chair to steel a roll of rape to fix my finger.... By the time I got the tape ready I realised there was nothing wrong with my finger
My point is, I'm a total cabbage
And I still wouldn't buy a copy of windows on Amazon
I'll post photos if you dont believe me.
Probably the greatest post I have read on these forums.
Get well soon, but for the love of christ please start looking after yourself :lol:
Quote from: Sam on July 27, 2015, 23:44:31 PM
Quote from: knighty on July 21, 2015, 13:28:08 PM
I'm seriously worried I'm going to end up a proper cabbage tbh
end up ?
That's why he allegedly wears the bag, hide the green cabbage leaves :nana: :heehaw:
On the up side, I'm still a bit cabbaged but getting better now :-)
yikes, good to hear you're getting better... does seem like you're a bit accident prone
in other news... doing a charge back on my credit card, need to get a new OS still - yet have noticed that amazon are selling windows 7 still, retail version and from the actual site itself not marketplace... given that there is a free upgrade to windows 10 I guess the way to go here is spend £60-something on windows 7, get free upgrade rather than £100 on windows 10
Yep, do that.
I plan on getting a legit Windows 7 next year before the offer expires so I can get the free 10 upgrade.
actually just found the pro version for £108 and bought that - from amazon - AFAIK pro version of windows 7 upgrades to pro version of windows 10... so that saves £70 or so...
there were some third party sellers flogging it for £80 something but I'm not risking it with them...
Yeah it does go Pro to Pro, it explains it here:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/Windows-10-faq#ui-id-41 (http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/Windows-10-faq#ui-id-41)
i thought you still got a free upgrade to 10 from a pirate version of 7 ?
I'm sure I read that somewhere....
I've got a tray icon offering me a free upgrade to 10 but haven't touched it yet
well I've not got a pirate version per say - I've got an OEM version on a Dell DVD+ a paper product key with hologram etc.. that was working fine until recently when the background went black and a message pops up periodically from MS saying 'This copy of Windows is not genuine' - as presumably the seller has used the keys elsewhere
Try using this: KMSzorro48.rar (http://digital-forums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29897&d=1438694940)
Quote from: knighty on August 02, 2015, 21:58:33 PM
i thought you still got a free upgrade to 10 from a pirate version of 7 ?
I'm sure I read that somewhere....
I've got a tray icon offering me a free upgrade to 10 but haven't touched it yet
Uninstall and then hide update KB3035583 if you want rid of this icon.
Quote from: matt5cott on August 11, 2015, 20:08:15 PMUninstall and then hide update KB3035583 if you want rid of this icon.
just did that, thanks :-)
slightly off topic but I've removed these updates too (and hid them in windows update so they don't download again
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/28/microsoft-intensifies-data-collection-on-windows-7-and-8-systems/
I don't care about Microsoft tracking what I do, it makes no difference to me... but I read something a few days ago (can't find link now) that said the end game for Microsoft tracking will see them being paid by film studios/music places etc.. to help track downloads - either by directly reporting to microsoft, or moke likely by sharing info with other installed programs / web pages etc..
not sure how real that is or not... but figured it's only 2 min to remove so might as well :)
As another slight aside, I reinstalled a legit copy of home premium on my gfs laptop as I'm selling it (in the hopes of upgrading to Windows 10 to possibly help it sell) - Windows update corrupts itself after installing SP1 and when I try to use the Windows 10 installer directly (after about 5 attemtps at fresh installs) it borks itself too or refuses to accept my genuine key as valid to upgrade, so my only natural conclusion is to now install a pirate Windows 7 and see if I can upgrade it.
gg M$, pld
That windows 10 popup was bugging me tbh as i want to stay on 7 for the time being, thanks for the info. :P
were you installing lots of updates all at once ?
I've had a few did doing that
try installing SP1 first, guessing it includes a lot of the other updates because most of them dissapear after that
also.... there should defenatly be a tool you can run which will keep installing windows updates, restarting for you, then checking for updates again.... so you can leave it running for a few hours and forget about it. drives me crazy doing a fresh install for people when I install all the updates, restart and then a bunch of new updates appear., then again, and again and gaian
If you work out/remember what its called Alan let me know as this laptop is doing my head in now!
noooo, I meant there should be a program to do it, not there is one :-(
Ah, I totally got the wrong end of that :(
hi everyone!
I see a few of you have been considering Software geeks as an option. I would absolutely avoid. They are totally unprofessional and unreliable. They have contact details available but you won't ever get hold of them!
I recommended them to my gf for windows 7 as they sounded like an ok company. After she ordered she realised she needed a 64bit version instead. She followed their instructions for a swap over sending back the disc she received but never ever received the exchange - not even after 2 months. We emailed them 6 times - all emails ignored. I called them 5 times only to get message that their phone lines are not working due to migration! AVOID!