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Title: gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: knighty on February 03, 2010, 00:56:24 AM
my nephew wanted to run a script for an onling game he plays... but needed firefox to run it....

so Ive gone over to the dark side and installed it... after years of saying I prefere IE....

and.... I still do prefere IE !

but Ill give it and go and see if it grws on me


but.....  how do i make the spell checker work ?

its enabled in the options, but not working.... googling hasnt helped....

and how do i stop it opening the little windo for downloads ?  I dont want it popping up for torrents etc....  or can I set it to auto close all of the time ? that would do...



p.s. IE used 800+meg of ram most of the time.... and ff uses sub 200meg....... but IE was still faster and smoother !
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Serious on February 03, 2010, 03:27:19 AM
You need to download and install the UK dictionary file from them. Its somewhere on this page....

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3366
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: neXus on February 03, 2010, 04:01:29 AM
Quote from: SeriousYou need to download and install the UK dictionary file from them. Its somewhere on this page....

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3366
If you gone to the right part of the site where you say UK version download it comes packaged with it as standard, but yeah, Knighty Get this form that link.

I know why you use IE as you told me, I hope Your mind can overcome all that and get settled into it. When you start using some good addons should help improve your browser experience.
Title: gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: skidzilla on February 03, 2010, 08:00:08 AM
Quote from: knightyand how do i stop it opening the little window for downloads ?  I dont want it popping up for torrents etc....  or can I set it to auto close all of the time ? that would do...
http://downloadstatusbar.mozdev.org/ :)
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Mark on February 03, 2010, 19:13:21 PM
TBH, I use chrome, the main reason being the auto complete.

It doesnt just give a list of the things that match, it fills in the most commonly used one so all you need to do for tekforums on a new tab for example is ctrl-t, te [enter]

All other browsers Ive tried you have to hit the down cursor, which is infuriating.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: neXus on February 03, 2010, 19:18:03 PM
Quote from: MarkTBH, I use chrome, the main reason being the auto complete.

It doesnt just give a list of the things that match, it fills in the most commonly used one so all you need to do for tekforums on a new tab for example is ctrl-t, te [enter]

All other browsers Ive tried you have to hit the down cursor, which is infuriating.
Chrome 5 Is heading to improve this further with control over what types of forms need what information. Chrome is now the 3rd biggest after firefox and IE. IE8 is finally taking off for Microsoft. Ie7 has had more drop off then IE6 though, lol. Opera bless it is dying.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: zpyder on February 03, 2010, 20:15:32 PM
Im wanting to like Chrome, Ive gone and installed it giving it another go, but its continued track record of instability is making me regret my decision. I uninstalled it last time after a couple of months because I realised it was crashing more than FF did and wasnt actually any faster.

Indeed the only thing I find myself liking about it is the start page and slightly smaller footprint. Otherwise Id be using FF right now.

If it crashes a couple more times (3 times in the last 5 minutes) itll be being uninstalled again :/
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Mark on February 03, 2010, 20:27:46 PM
has crashed once for me in about 6 months, Im on the internet browsing at least 5 hours a day.

Title: gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: bear on February 03, 2010, 20:37:04 PM
Namoroka works fine :D
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Pete on February 03, 2010, 22:26:37 PM
I use different browsers for different stuff. IE for general browsing, FF for one site I look at lots cos the most visited is handy, Opera for loggy-in type pages cos the speed dial is dead handy.

Opera is still better than FF imo. Native paste-and-go and native mouse-gestures, and it doesnt bug you to update your widgets every bloody time you open it.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 03, 2010, 22:52:35 PM
Firefox is pissing me off now. As a development browser its great, but as a day to day browser it really could learn an effing lot from Chrome.

And it crashes at least once a day for me, after the eventual grinding to a halt from flash/java of doom has set in. Ive been saying it for about a year, too much time fannying on it trying to be the first to get new shiz out and not enough true nerds at the core on the helm of bugfixes and optimisation.
Title: gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: knighty on February 03, 2010, 23:01:17 PM
awwww....

so after years of perfect running with IE... zero crashes.... everything working great.... and everyone bashing me for using it instead of firefox....

now i change over to firefox..... and everyone swaps sides !
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: neXus on February 03, 2010, 23:26:53 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeFirefox is pissing me off now. As a development browser its great, but as a day to day browser it really could learn an effing lot from Chrome.

And it crashes at least once a day for me, after the eventual grinding to a halt from flash/java of doom has set in. Ive been saying it for about a year, too much time fannying on it trying to be the first to get new shiz out and not enough true nerds at the core on the helm of bugfixes and optimisation.

Something wrong there though with your set up still I think. Something causing that.
Work 5 days a week with 4 guys using it with lots of tabs open all day mac and pc and I can not remember last time firefox Crashed. Good few months for anyone.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 04, 2010, 00:20:36 AM
Theres nothing wrong with my setup - I uninstalled it, removed all traces of it from the system and reg entries, reinstalled it completely along with Flash and Java just to be sure and its the same. I dont install any extensions or other nonsense either.

I can have about 100 tabs open sometimes, but I know its not the quantity of tabs as it used to run fine. Perhaps its a particular set of sites with troublesome scripts/code/flash or whatever, but its not really good enough. You shouldnt need a ninja computer just to browse the web, it feels like the internet is going backwards sometimes with websites getting too bloated.

One thing for sure is, Im not the only person reporting repeated problems with it, a quick Google search shows that, always the same DLLs crashing it for people...
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Serious on February 04, 2010, 00:40:55 AM
I had problems with a dodgy version of pro that wasnt updated, Firefox crashed regularly on it.

No problems with XP home, Windows 7 or a properly updated XP 64 pro.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: skidzilla on February 04, 2010, 00:53:29 AM
Quote from: PeteI use different browsers for different stuff. IE for general browsing, FF for one site I look at lots cos the most visited is handy, Opera for loggy-in type pages cos the speed dial is dead handy.

Opera is still better than FF imo. Native paste-and-go and native mouse-gestures, and it doesnt bug you to update your widgets every bloody time you open it.
IMO, the best thing about FF since its inception has been its extensibility and XUL-based (there is no DOM, only XUL! :P) UI, ergo:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9133

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5721

Although I have all three installed in Ubuntu (Chromium, Opera, SwiftFox). :)
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: bear on February 04, 2010, 01:23:24 AM
Quote from: skidzilla
Quote from: PeteI use different browsers for different stuff. IE for general browsing, FF for one site I look at lots cos the most visited is handy, Opera for loggy-in type pages cos the speed dial is dead handy.

Opera is still better than FF imo. Native paste-and-go and native mouse-gestures, and it doesnt bug you to update your widgets every bloody time you open it.
IMO, the best thing about FF since its inception has been its extensibility and XUL-based (there is no DOM, only XUL! :P) UI, ergo:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9133

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5721

Although I have all three installed in Ubuntu (Chromium, Opera, SwiftFox). :)

Have you tried minefield  (FF 3.7. something)  worked at first and that really fast but after an update it stopped working :(
I find FF 3.6.1pre as fast as swiftfox.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 04, 2010, 02:06:25 AM
Quote from: SeriousI had problems with a dodgy version of pro that wasnt updated, Firefox crashed regularly on it.

No problems with XP home, Windows 7 or a properly updated XP 64 pro.

Perhaps my eventual switch to Windows 7 will alleviate problems. Fingers crossed for me when that special day occurs...
Title: gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: bear on February 04, 2010, 14:13:25 PM
:D just installed Minefield 3.7 (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa) on my lappy and it is fast and nice :) faster than chrome.
Title: gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Sam on February 04, 2010, 16:13:22 PM
I installed FF recently as I needed to use LiveHttpHeaders. Its not bad but its noticable slower than Chrome and just not as slick.
Chrome concentrates on being fast. FF concentrates (like Nige said) on gadgets.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Mark on February 05, 2010, 12:51:35 PM
chrome rules.

I hate the way IE completely IGNORES you if you press stop when its attempting to load the homepage.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: neXus on February 05, 2010, 16:10:36 PM
Quote from: Markchrome rules.

I hate the way IE completely IGNORES you if you press stop when its attempting to load the homepage.
I hate IE full stop, lol.

Just so many random things it does wrong and badly it is daft.

Did you know even IE8 does not support the :active css code! lol
This is for links etc same as if you have :hover so you can apply css to an active link. IE still does not support it properly. :hover was bugged up till 8 as some css properties you did would not render correctly.

If you make a certain image in png with certain colour properties IE (even 8) will have a fit and render the image as solid black. I mean, what the?

For the time it was in and number of bugs IE5 was actually the best Internet Explorer out there.
Considering standards compliance, number of bugs, performance for the time, features for the time it was out It was the best IE Version.
IE 9 Will be the first browser from MS to properly support a number of javascript functionality aspects which have been in say FF from version 1 and other browsers for ages. They still used some form of Jscript and active script to understand what you did in javascript thus making it slower.

Font Rendering - Borked even in IE8.

You can go on for a month of Sundays. You can prefer a browser, Chrome over FF and I know some here like IE but MS really just think they know better and they actually have no clue.

The rumour from MS development is IE9 is the last attempt. If they get it wrong they will ditch their tridant engine for a web kit based browser.

On a side note...

HTML 5, CSS3 - I can not wait till I can safely build my sites using these.
Flash Will die unless Adobe seriously sit there and sort all the perfomance, cookie crap, security and licensee issues because the way you can use canvass and HMTL 5 video It is a peace of cake and you can do so much.
HTML 5 will allow websites to be so much better. When I can dump some data locally to the user so they can view aspects of the site offline for example has a hell of a lot of uses.

Opera has great features but I simply do not and have never liked the interface.


Currently though - Chrome theme for Firefox is a very good theme, very well made and I get the nice look of chrome but all the features of FF.


Nige:
I think I found the problem you may be having. Did you ever go into the confic stuff for Firefox to do those speed improvement settings from guides on the net? Many elements in there in the later versions of Firefox have changed and this does not go when you remove FF as it is part of your profile. So if you re-install they stay. This causes crashes etc on later versions as a result.
This may be the problem your getting.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: zpyder on February 07, 2010, 15:33:30 PM
I think whats crashing my chrome install all the time is the uni webmail page. I think it is crashing when I click the mailbox icon (opens a new tab for the mail and asks for a user/pass) and then go onto a different tab before the username/password box has popped up. I just did this and I saw it flicker around when the user/pass boxwould come up and then it froze...again.
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 07, 2010, 19:12:07 PM
Cheers for looking into that neXus, nah I never modified anything at all before these crashes. Im of the opinion that if its been unstable all along theres no need for me to be poking around under its bonnet :lol:
Title: Re:gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: neXus on February 07, 2010, 23:25:27 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeCheers for looking into that neXus, nah I never modified anything at all before these crashes. Im of the opinion that if its been unstable all along theres no need for me to be poking around under its bonnet :lol:

It is the same as a friend here. His chrome crashes almost twice a day so he says. Chrome is fine for everyone else so something else on his machine or the setup causing it to crash. He went back to FF because he got pissed off with chrome. I think his text was "Pile of sh*te from google, they should stick to doing searches".
Title: gone over to the dark side - firefox
Post by: Sam on February 08, 2010, 05:02:38 AM
If google discontinued Chrome I would actually not enjoy the internet anymore.
Thats how much I love Chrome.