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gone over to the dark side - firefox

Started by knighty, February 03, 2010, 00:56:24 AM

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skidzilla

Quote from: PeteI use different browsers for different stuff. IE for general browsing, FF for one site I look at lots cos the most visited is handy, Opera for loggy-in type pages cos the speed dial is dead handy.

Opera is still better than FF imo. Native paste-and-go and native mouse-gestures, and it doesnt bug you to update your widgets every bloody time you open it.
IMO, the best thing about FF since its inception has been its extensibility and XUL-based (there is no DOM, only XUL! :P) UI, ergo:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9133

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5721

Although I have all three installed in Ubuntu (Chromium, Opera, SwiftFox). :)

bear

Quote from: skidzilla
Quote from: PeteI use different browsers for different stuff. IE for general browsing, FF for one site I look at lots cos the most visited is handy, Opera for loggy-in type pages cos the speed dial is dead handy.

Opera is still better than FF imo. Native paste-and-go and native mouse-gestures, and it doesnt bug you to update your widgets every bloody time you open it.
IMO, the best thing about FF since its inception has been its extensibility and XUL-based (there is no DOM, only XUL! :P) UI, ergo:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9133

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5721

Although I have all three installed in Ubuntu (Chromium, Opera, SwiftFox). :)

Have you tried minefield  (FF 3.7. something)  worked at first and that really fast but after an update it stopped working :(
I find FF 3.6.1pre as fast as swiftfox.

Clock'd 0Ne

Quote from: SeriousI had problems with a dodgy version of pro that wasnt updated, Firefox crashed regularly on it.

No problems with XP home, Windows 7 or a properly updated XP 64 pro.

Perhaps my eventual switch to Windows 7 will alleviate problems. Fingers crossed for me when that special day occurs...

bear

:D just installed Minefield 3.7 (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa) on my lappy and it is fast and nice :) faster than chrome.

Sam

I installed FF recently as I needed to use LiveHttpHeaders. Its not bad but its noticable slower than Chrome and just not as slick.
Chrome concentrates on being fast. FF concentrates (like Nige said) on gadgets.

Mark

chrome rules.

I hate the way IE completely IGNORES you if you press stop when its attempting to load the homepage.

neXus

Quote from: Markchrome rules.

I hate the way IE completely IGNORES you if you press stop when its attempting to load the homepage.
I hate IE full stop, lol.

Just so many random things it does wrong and badly it is daft.

Did you know even IE8 does not support the :active css code! lol
This is for links etc same as if you have :hover so you can apply css to an active link. IE still does not support it properly. :hover was bugged up till 8 as some css properties you did would not render correctly.

If you make a certain image in png with certain colour properties IE (even 8) will have a fit and render the image as solid black. I mean, what the?

For the time it was in and number of bugs IE5 was actually the best Internet Explorer out there.
Considering standards compliance, number of bugs, performance for the time, features for the time it was out It was the best IE Version.
IE 9 Will be the first browser from MS to properly support a number of javascript functionality aspects which have been in say FF from version 1 and other browsers for ages. They still used some form of Jscript and active script to understand what you did in javascript thus making it slower.

Font Rendering - Borked even in IE8.

You can go on for a month of Sundays. You can prefer a browser, Chrome over FF and I know some here like IE but MS really just think they know better and they actually have no clue.

The rumour from MS development is IE9 is the last attempt. If they get it wrong they will ditch their tridant engine for a web kit based browser.

On a side note...

HTML 5, CSS3 - I can not wait till I can safely build my sites using these.
Flash Will die unless Adobe seriously sit there and sort all the perfomance, cookie crap, security and licensee issues because the way you can use canvass and HMTL 5 video It is a peace of cake and you can do so much.
HTML 5 will allow websites to be so much better. When I can dump some data locally to the user so they can view aspects of the site offline for example has a hell of a lot of uses.

Opera has great features but I simply do not and have never liked the interface.


Currently though - Chrome theme for Firefox is a very good theme, very well made and I get the nice look of chrome but all the features of FF.


Nige:
I think I found the problem you may be having. Did you ever go into the confic stuff for Firefox to do those speed improvement settings from guides on the net? Many elements in there in the later versions of Firefox have changed and this does not go when you remove FF as it is part of your profile. So if you re-install they stay. This causes crashes etc on later versions as a result.
This may be the problem your getting.

zpyder

I think whats crashing my chrome install all the time is the uni webmail page. I think it is crashing when I click the mailbox icon (opens a new tab for the mail and asks for a user/pass) and then go onto a different tab before the username/password box has popped up. I just did this and I saw it flicker around when the user/pass boxwould come up and then it froze...again.

Clock'd 0Ne

Cheers for looking into that neXus, nah I never modified anything at all before these crashes. Im of the opinion that if its been unstable all along theres no need for me to be poking around under its bonnet :lol:

neXus

Quote from: Clockd 0NeCheers for looking into that neXus, nah I never modified anything at all before these crashes. Im of the opinion that if its been unstable all along theres no need for me to be poking around under its bonnet :lol:

It is the same as a friend here. His chrome crashes almost twice a day so he says. Chrome is fine for everyone else so something else on his machine or the setup causing it to crash. He went back to FF because he got pissed off with chrome. I think his text was "Pile of sh*te from google, they should stick to doing searches".

Sam

If google discontinued Chrome I would actually not enjoy the internet anymore.
Thats how much I love Chrome.