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:) my exams start next week, with another 25% extra time allocated :D
anyone else got any good news which can probably change the course of their life?
Can I ask a question, I never understood this myself.
They give you another 25% exam time due to difficulties you may have reading/understanding the question, so why give another 25% extra time which is just extra time worrying and not understanding the question!
Its so they can take longer reading the questions and writing their answers. A mate from college had 25% extra time and it helped him no end. He was a genius but he couldnt get his head around written words and he would have failed without it which would have been a crime. As it was he got As
Fair enough, just there was a lad on my degree that had the same issue and the extra 25% just freaked him out as he would spend longer getting wound up by not understanding what was written in front of him.
ive got a horrible problem where i just scan read it, interpret what I think is the question and then go on off on a tangent to what they really want. some of the reccomendations theyve given me is pretty eye opening stuff,
applying it to my fea assignment last term pushed my marks up by 20% (i got 75% :)) so i just have to slow down, an that usually does take extra time.
also my short term memory is shockingly bad, so i can read a question, forget half of it and then go off on what i think the question is. im quite surprised i managed to struggle through education sofar without having been spotted by those teachign me.
I was "diagnosed" with dyslexia, and also a high IQ funilly enough, and got all those 25% extra time things in exams, but no matter how much time you have, if you havent got any intention of learning and just being a dick it doesnt matter ;)
thats why im a postman :D
Quote from: EddI was "diagnosed" with dyslexia, and also a high IQ funilly enough, and got all those 25% extra time things in exams, but no matter how much time you have, if you havent got any intention of learning and just being a dick it doesnt matter ;)
thats why im a postman :D
lmao!!
at least your honest!! :D
U had extra time on my uni exams due to my hand and used a puter, BUT first time around I thought I was up for it I had them at 9am which was hard since i cant sleep to well, a January and freezing cold with a large vent you could not close, had to have a coat on one exam and heater for the 3rd - did not do well in those conditions and also did not get my extra time and break promised as the examiner did not know about it AND one exam i had like 5-6 people coming in and out of the room and another 3 computers packed up, ftw, lol
Quote from: neXusU had extra time on my uni exams due to my hand and used a puter, BUT first time around I thought I was up for it I had them at 9am which was hard since i cant sleep to well, a January and freezing cold with a large vent you could not close, had to have a coat on one exam and heater for the 3rd - did not do well in those conditions and also did not get my extra time and break promised as the examiner did not know about it AND one exam i had like 5-6 people coming in and out of the room and another 3 computers packed up, ftw, lol
so when exactly did you break that mirror? :D
Quote from: RivkidQuote from: neXusU had extra time on my uni exams due to my hand and used a puter, BUT first time around I thought I was up for it I had them at 9am which was hard since i cant sleep to well, a January and freezing cold with a large vent you could not close, had to have a coat on one exam and heater for the 3rd - did not do well in those conditions and also did not get my extra time and break promised as the examiner did not know about it AND one exam i had like 5-6 people coming in and out of the room and another 3 computers packed up, ftw, lol
so when exactly did you break that mirror? :D
As clocked will tell you because I tell him a lot - last two years of my life = sh*tE, think I must have broken 3 while walking under a ladder
grandad dead, hospital f**king me about all the time, hand not fixed becuase they are crap, getting on with things with no working thumb and bad hand being right handed = sh*te :) I can go on ^^
i got 25% extra time for all my exams for the same "condition" but seeing how i only used 50-75% of the time i had anyway it was pointless
Quote from: neXusAs clocked will tell you because I tell him a lot - last two years of my life = sh*tE, think I must have broken 3 while walking under a ladder
grandad dead, hospital f**king me about all the time, hand not fixed becuase they are crap, getting on with things with no working thumb and bad hand being right handed = sh*te :) I can go on ^^
Maybe you could build some mirrors to even things out? Wonder if that works - does anyone know any mirror makers? Are they lucky? :P
Quote from: redive got a horrible problem where i just scan read it, interpret what I think is the question and then go on off on a tangent to what they really want.
As someone who has to read the crap students write in exams youre far from alone in this.
i wonder if cutting the mirrors to shape counts as breaking a mirror?
Quote from: RivkidQuote from: neXusAs clocked will tell you because I tell him a lot - last two years of my life = sh*tE, think I must have broken 3 while walking under a ladder
grandad dead, hospital f**king me about all the time, hand not fixed becuase they are crap, getting on with things with no working thumb and bad hand being right handed = sh*te :) I can go on ^^
Maybe you could build some mirrors to even things out? Wonder if that works - does anyone know any mirror makers? Are they lucky? :P
LOL, nether thought of that
Quote from: neXusLOL, nether thought of that
could be worth a shot. Construct 3 mirrors and combine with walking over a ladder (as Im not sure how to make a ladder walk over you) and I reckon you could be home free....
Quote from: RivkidQuote from: EddI was "diagnosed" with dyslexia, and also a high IQ funilly enough, and got all those 25% extra time things in exams, but no matter how much time you have, if you havent got any intention of learning and just being a dick it doesnt matter ;)
thats why im a postman :D
lmao!!
at least your honest!! :D
Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of postman biting! :twisted:
Erm, the note is in Comic Sans.
:w00t: :rofl:
I dont understand why you should get special treatment.
You wont get special treatment out in the real world.
They wont go "ooh, hes dyslexic, lets give him a longer deadline"
Reading and answering the ACTUAL question, rather than what you think read is a key exam success key.
You can know loads of stuff, but if you dont put the appropriate relevant bits in there for the examiner to give you the necessary ticks, youll never do that great.
Im relatively convinced that if people were taught this a bit more, much of this "extra-time" phenomenon could be done away with.
Quote from: BigSoyReading and answering the ACTUAL question, rather than what you think read is a key exam success key.
You can know loads of stuff, but if you dont put the appropriate relevant bits in there for the examiner to give you the necessary ticks, youll never do that great.
Im relatively convinced that if people were taught this a bit more, much of this "extra-time" phenomenon could be done away with.
you are right, if they could show me a workaround i wouldnt need an extra 25% time :/
Quote from: soopahflyI dont understand why you should get special treatment.
You wont get special treatment out in the real world.
They wont go "ooh, hes dyslexic, lets give him a longer deadline"
I agree. :lol:
Quote from: WalrusbonzoQuote from: soopahflyI dont understand why you should get special treatment.
You wont get special treatment out in the real world.
They wont go "ooh, hes dyslexic, lets give him a longer deadline"
I agree. :lol:
Me three.
Quote from: NimrodQuote from: WalrusbonzoQuote from: soopahflyI dont understand why you should get special treatment.
You wont get special treatment out in the real world.
They wont go "ooh, hes dyslexic, lets give him a longer deadline"
I agree. :lol:
Me three.
Me four.
Supposedly, you get a percentage added for your exam if certain things have happened. Like 2% for a family pet dying, 10% for a close relative dying..
Its a bit strange. How do you put a mark on something so big? A dog dying may devastate someone and wreck their lives.. It may be their best friend. Whereas people may try to claim on their goldfish dying.
Correct me if Im wrong about that being true or not, but thats what was being talked about back when I did GCSEs a few years ago.
Just to clarify, Im not trying to be nasty about it. But it should be realistic. No special treatment when it comes to the exams/coursework.
Quote from: soopahflyJust to clarify, Im not trying to be nasty about it. But it should be realistic. No special treatment when it comes to the exams/coursework.
Silly comment tbh, I cant even use a pen so becuase I cant sit the exams in a normal way they should have not helped me out but failed me just becuase I have a disability?
Stupid to say that
no its not.
Ive got no problem with people doing exams orally, nor with them using a computer if they cannot write. But to give someone extra time is to give them an advantage over someone who is not *disabled*.
Quote from: Nimrodno its not.
Ive got no problem with people doing exams orally, nor with them using a computer if they cannot write. But to give someone extra time is to give them an advantage over someone who is not *disabled*.
Dyslexia = Learning
DisabilityLoss of use of thumb and hand motion as in not normal =
DisabilityMeaning not able to do things normal, do a test that you need to put on paper on a computer = not very easy, a lot harder, takes more time
Having to go over things more then a "normal" person would to make sure you understood it being Dyslexia = more time needed
I dont understand what youre trying to say.
It may take more time to write/type/dictate an answer but in being given more time, that person is gaining an edge over other students.
Just out of interest, do they just give Blind students extra time in exams to compensate for them not being able to read the questions ?
Im on Nimrods side for this one..
I think a mental disability and physical disability are different.
Im sure if youre clever enough with computers and fast enough at typing youll only need the same amount of time. Your thoughts arent coming out any slower.
I mean, with disabilities like Dyslexia, I think if they give them extra time and they come out with all As for example, then these As get them a good job they could be giving a false impression to the employer of how good this worker is and whether theyll be able to meet the deadlines in time, etc. Because they arent going to get 25% extra time for everything in life.
I do understand and value both sides of the argument, I just feel stronger with the side Ive pointed out.
Quote from: NimrodI dont understand what youre trying to say.
It may take more time to write/type/dictate an answer but in being given more time, that person is gaining an edge over other students.
Just out of interest, do they just give Blind students extra time in exams to compensate for them not being able to read the questions ?
Yes
simple put, hate using the term normal but works for the example
normal = 100
disabled person = 70
extra time = 25
disabled person = 95
That is what it does, gives it a fair opportunity, it is not an advantage it is an assessed time as a result of the disability.
Going on your logic that the extra time gives an advantage means that a disabled person is equally capable as someone who is not, which is simply not true.
jamieL:
And what if your not a good at typing then - makes it harder
Well known and documented about capacity to stair at a screen and concentration levels and thoughts.
Saying your thoughts coming out no slower is silly, so you have never made notes during your exam or done bullet points to come back to it or done a sketch of something to remember what to write about it?
It does not give an employer a false impression at all you will be going into the job and telling them you have Dyslexia and they can not treat your application any different from anyone else if you show you capable of the actual job, to do so would get the company into company and sued etc.
Each person goes to their course people tells them and they are assed with regard to their disability for the exam extras they need depending on them and these come from national information and standards for what disadvantages each condition has to what it means for the exam.
It is something called equal rights
Sorry but some here are not thinking about how bad things are for some, and how much different it is for them
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but some here are being a bit negative to people with disabilities here.
Lets not have lifts or ramps for people in wheel chairs, not fair to have them have an advantage like that, should not get support and help in the real world.
They should not be treated equally at work and work places should not have disabled facilities either.
I reckon it is a load of bollocks tbh...
if someone passes an exam/course while being allowed 25% extra time then it should say so on the certificate
everyone is different tbh.. - classifying certain people on the bases of selected differences and then assigning some form of bias to a test as a result just creates an unfair test IMO
Cause real life always gives you extra time if you have dyslexia/dyspraxia.
Quote from: M3ta7h3adCause real life always gives you extra time if you have dyslexia/dyspraxia.
In a working environment - it does
Quote from: neXusIn a working environment - it does
thats rubbish tbh...
you dont always get extra time in real life as metalhead rightly pointed out.
you cant turn round to a client and say sorry Im a bit slow so youll need to give me 25% extra time on this project
Quote from: neXusQuote from: M3ta7h3adCause real life always gives you extra time if you have dyslexia/dyspraxia.
In a working environment - it does
Thats bollocks.
I fully sympathise with Red and his condition, as I know others in his exact same position, but I dont agree with the university policies of doling out extra time to people.
well untill they know a workaround its ample.
i didnt use my extra time btw, and it isnt something i have picked up off a toilet seat. it seems ive had it all my life and the only way to get around it is to work 25% harder.
i didnt ask for the extra time, however it is a mitigating circumstance which tbh only makes things fairer as it does take some time to compute.
i did have my first exam yesturday and as i have been pretty much eating sleeping and drinking my uni work, means the exams should go alright, as long as i keep my head and highlight the stuff they want me to answer.
for instance
Quotewhat are the methods of financing a buisness, and choose one which is the most suitable for your buisness
turns into
Quotewhat are the methods of financing a buisness, and choose one which is the most suitable for your buisness, and justify your selection
its all about the workaround guys :)
Quote from: redQuotewhat are the methods of financing a buisness, and choose one which is the most suitable for your buisness, and justify your selection
The important bit being justifying your decision, giving good reasons explains that you understand how the market works and that you have dne your work properly.
i had extra time during my AS levels, i didnt use it tho cause as I said i didnt pay attention in class at all :)
but i found that it wasnt answering the questions, it was understanding the stuff i was taught
i took physics, science and computing at AS level and i had real difficulty understanding some concepts, Ill give an example, I couldnt for the life of me work out how to rearrange equations, it completely stumped me, i know some people can just see it and dont need to work it out, but I couldnt work it out, and it was pretty important in those 2 subjects
i found that approaching it at unconventional ways achieved best results, but it pissed me off so I just gave up with it
the funny thing was I could do GCSE maths easily, i know its pretty rudimentary but the jump to the advanced maths purplexed me
The jump from AS to A2 is much much much more difficult than anything ive encountered in Uni.
Not saying that its easier content in uni, im saying its more gradual. AS to A2... huge jump in technical knowledge.