Wonder how true the reports are of the phone loosing the signal if you hold it in your hand?!

A few people on other forums have got one, and said the reports are a load of bollox. The 1st report about the loosing of signal came from T3 I think, who slagged the ipad off too.......

Quite true.  I suppose it does make sense. The moisture from your hand would produce a dielectric field that would intefere with the anttena.

I have mine. I can force the signal drop issue if I purposely cover that corner, but not by normal use. I can see someone with smaller hands having issues, but the offending area isnt even close to touching my palm when I use it normally.

Apart from that, its freaking awesome. I used it this morning to shoot 720p footage of my daughters school play.

The screen is unbelievable. Its like going into a furniture shop where they have the fake TVs and computers where the image is just printed out on a sticker. The most obvious test of the higher resolution is that you can read the smallest text on the NY Times home page without zooming in, something that is literally impossible on the previous generation phone. (You wouldnt do this, but you *could*. Build quality is unbelievable. Feels incredibly dense, completely solid. Loving it so far.

Very true id say: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8761240.stm

Quote from: chrisdickoWonder how true the reports are of the phone loosing the signal if you hold it in your hand?!

A few people on other forums have got one, and said the reports are a load of bollox. The 1st report about the loosing of signal came from T3 I think, who slagged the ipad off too.......

Wrong, it was Mac Rumours, and the iPad should be slagged off.

Or of course you could just adopt the jobsian way of thinking.  "Your holding it wrong"

Was going to buy one today but apparently O2 dont want my money. They say theyll only sell to people who already have an O2 contract, PAYG, or home broadband account. I do have a Be account but they are only letting Be customers buy from next week.

Im not in a rush to buy the phone, but as the store in town had some phones in stock and I was passing by I thought that Id have been able to get one now. Seems I was wrong.

Quote from: TheMallratWas going to buy one today but apparently O2 dont want my money. They say theyll only sell to people who already have an O2 contract, PAYG, or home broadband account. I do have a Be account but they are only letting Be customers buy from next week.

Im not in a rush to buy the phone, but as the store in town had some phones in stock and I was passing by I thought that Id have been able to get one now. Seems I was wrong.

tesco supposedly have the best deals.
cheapest price plans & handset prices

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Quote from: TheMallratWas going to buy one today but apparently O2 dont want my money. They say theyll only sell to people who already have an O2 contract, PAYG, or home broadband account. I do have a Be account but they are only letting Be customers buy from next week.

Im not in a rush to buy the phone, but as the store in town had some phones in stock and I was passing by I thought that Id have been able to get one now. Seems I was wrong.

tesco supposedly have the best deals.
cheapest price plans & handset prices

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I get the best deal with O2 though as I get a channel partner discount because I work for DSGi. I did however look into Tesco but when I asked in store they said they wouldnt have the phone in stock until sometime next month.

Holding your iPhone 4G can cause signal issues  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8761240.stm

Quote from: TheMallratI get the best deal with O2 though as I get a channel partner discount because I work for DSGi. I did however look into Tesco but when I asked in store they said they wouldnt have the phone in stock until sometime next month.

At the moment where I work the deals on O2 have been suspended pending review, however most of us are on the Orange Retailer discount anyway.  

Quote from: SeriousHolding your iPhone 4G can cause signal issues  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8761240.stm

Actually happens on the HTC Hero, Nexus one, HTC 1.
Yeah its bad and apple says to hold it differently yet engadget did a nice post with lots of images from apple adverts of them "holding it wrong" lol.

This is a good read: http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/2010/6/24/apple-iphone-4-antennas.html

Thing is not all people have the issue. My brother is as conductive as a potato and he can not get signal bars to drop.

I used to have this issue with the Sony Ericsson X1, only holding it pretty much any way would cause the signal to drop. When you did have a signal it sounded like people were talking through cotton wool too.

It is a design issue, there is no doubt about that because your basically shorting them out. Some say you can fix this with software, telling the OS how to handle it could sort it or improve it. Others are not so sure.

Reading about this basically the design concept is great. If you hold it any other way other then covering that slit between both antennas your actually improving the signal yourself, like when your messing with an old TV arial or put your finger in the old TV socket. That is quite clever. The problem is your "Crossing the streams" between the wifi/bluetooth antenna and the main phone antenna.
Maybe if the slit as directly at the bottom it would solve the issue but not look as good on the phone, or a deeper groove to separate them.
Someone suggest that simple rubber on the connectors in the bottom left hand corner inside the phone during manufacture will solve the problem as well.

But as I have also read actually quite a lot of phones have a similar issue, people do not kick up a fuss as much or/and the other phones with issues just do not get as much media attention. Some of the blackberry range apperently loose signal if you hold it on certain ways and it effects everyone differently on the scale. Depends on how your body is.


I still think it is a cock up on design and it will be interesting to see if Apple change their tune on it, FCC approved the phone but testing is done with machines and no one actually holding the phone in that way but they may take another look and if its a hardware flaw they could force apple to fix the issue and free upgrade current users. They have done that before on products, we will have to see.

On the other hand a lot of people saying they have not had this issue and 95% of your use will be unaffected. The times you hold it like that you will not be making a call or using wifi etc.

Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

Lol.  What a shower of wankers at Apple...

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Iz u a h8ter?  u dnt lyk Apple, so u suck