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Title: Judas speaks out
Post by: Serious on April 06, 2006, 23:10:31 PM
Seems the stuff written about him by the Roman Catholic Church was intended to blacken his character and he isnt so bad as he was portrayed...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/06042006/325/gospel-judas-gives-new-view-betrayer.html

I wonder how the bible belt Americans are going to explain this one away.
Title: Judas speaks out
Post by: maximusotter on April 06, 2006, 23:15:55 PM
Ive always thought of Judas, not as a betrayer, but somebody essential for the Passion to take place. It had to be somebody.

I played Judas a few years back at St. James Cathedral in Chicago for the Passion Play. :mrgreen:
Title: Re:Judas speaks out
Post by: Serious on April 06, 2006, 23:25:58 PM
Even in the orthodox versions Jesus damn well knows who he is and what hes going to do, he even makes sure he can do it!

I think Judas was very badly done by TBVH
Title: Judas speaks out
Post by: maximusotter on April 06, 2006, 23:37:00 PM
From a theological standpoint, yeah, he got shafted big time. Depending on where you read it, either he disembowels himself or hangs himself due to the guilt. Now why would God allow this to happen if he was such an essential part of the Passion? Its one of those questions that really piss me off about the Bible.
Title: Re:Judas speaks out
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on April 07, 2006, 00:05:03 AM
Quote from: SeriousEven in the orthodox versions Jesus damn well knows who he is and what hes going to do, he even makes sure he can do it!

I think Judas was very badly done by TBVH

Given that aspect to this, what part of this story then is set by his own free will, if any? In fact how many of Jesus associates were beguiled in some form for events to unfold as they did?

Why also is Stadium Arcadium being released in three guises with little distinguishable between them, according to Amazon?

These are the big questions that need answering.
Title: Judas speaks out
Post by: maximusotter on April 07, 2006, 00:09:33 AM
Because Anthony Keidis believes in the Trinity, and that there is little difference in the three, just format. ;) Consider the mp3 download the "holy spirit".
Title: Judas speaks out
Post by: maximusotter on April 07, 2006, 00:15:48 AM
Had to be done:

(http://www.canadianchristianity.com/bc/bccn/0905/graphics/dylan_no.jpg)
Title: Judas speaks out
Post by: Deaths Head on April 07, 2006, 01:12:26 AM
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5596/judaspriest8hf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re:Judas speaks out
Post by: Dave on April 07, 2006, 02:13:16 AM
maybe they were all just a bit like derren brown?