So I need a new phone as the one I have is shocking.
My choices it seems are
Iphone. $200 plus $90 a month contract.
G1. $200 plus $65 a month contract.
Blackberry Storm if I have too but I didnt like it when my bird had one.
Any other suggestions? I fancy something I can check email on.
the blackberry is wank and the iphone is not quite as nice to use as the G1 imo.
Jaimz :rock:
erm, the Iphones are now available contract free... but still locked to AT&T out there.
Whats wrong with an N96? does everything I want & need, including push email to my work email server,
Garmin Sat Nav (with a few hacks & workarounds), etc.
Storm is slow as hell, we have one at work I was playing around with. Dont rate it at all. The Bold is the nicest of the "Real" Blackberrys, but I personally like the 8220. Im using an 8120 at the moment, and other than the lack of 3G its brilliant. They are actually bringing out a new Blackberry soon, Its basically a Bold with a screen like the Storm.
G1 is crap, its just awful in build quality to its competitors. I have one of them in my desk draw atm, and every time I flip out the screen I wait for the hinge to snap. You pick it up and its like a cheap toy.
iPhone? I thought you where straight!
get a Jesus phone - there is no comparison to be made tbh....
plenty of people at my place have been given the latest blackberrys etc... by the company - a decent portion have still gone and purchased Iphones for their personal mobile.
The new Nokia? Wait for some of other smartpones to hit US stores in the next month or so?
You got the new Motarola smart touch screen phone along with LG, Samsungs, Palm Pre (I am getting ths) and others. Will be a lot more choice in just a month or sos time.
Whats the new Motorola one, and will it be really expensive? You dont get the latest phones cheap here like you do in the UK,.
Quote from: Eggtasticoerm, the Iphones are now available contract free... but still locked to AT&T out there.
Whats wrong with an N96? does everything I want & need, including push email to my work email server,
Garmin Sat Nav (with a few hacks & workarounds), etc.
I love it when people say things like Whats wrong with ..... Im asking because I d o n t k n o w w h a t p h o n e s a r e a v a i l a b l e.
I will look into the N96, tell me why you like it ?
The N96 is not available on Verizon.
Its not on AT&T either. Those are the two networks I need to use.
Quote from: SamWhats the new Motorola one, and will it be really expensive? You dont get the latest phones cheap here like you do in the UK,.
Same here, Uk actually does well in the mobile phone and price plans. There is a lot of competition so it is quite good in the UK...
Motarola -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqaV8AOvkHsPalm Pre -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33Lc8cOXRs,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWN-EjAq6IgHTC pro 2 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36FJb7plQ_Q&feature=relatedHTC diamond 2 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joLtkKK87-oSamsung Mondi -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LT25XtfPyk (not the nicest looking but people are really liking this at the currently running Mobile phone show CTIA 2009
Nokia N97 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogfnc4nUhiIFew others but these are probably the top and possible jesus phone killers.
Palm And Nokia have app services and stores coming, Samsung I think do too. Others probably working on their own app stores as well.
Palm Pre is a business phone and has a lot of power and use and full multi-tasking capabilities. It is all webkit based so all your apps are xml, xhtml, css, javascript and the SDK bits for the phone so you will be able to make your own apps for it Sam if you need it to do something that does not exist through other apps etc.
Meh, I love my iPhone, sounds like youre getting raped on the call plan though :(
What does the UK call plan cost ?
8Gb is free (57 for 16Gb) on a 24month contract at £34 and a few pence a month on 02 and £100/157 ish at £29.00 p/m
You can get a G1 for $100 with $65 a month. I am leaning towards that especially as apple also want another $36 activation fee.
Is email important? More specifically - is the ability to search your email important?
If so - there is only one choice and thats blackberry.
If you can do with poor, basic email search the others are all fine.
I only use gmail. Any other format for email is a pale imitation. So I just need web access.
Quote from: MarkIs email important? More specifically - is the ability to search your email important?
If so - there is only one choice and thats blackberry.
If you can do with poor, basic email search the others are all fine.
That not true now, a lot of these phones linked are launching in the next month or so and have big email push ability etc. The palm pre integrates everything. A contact is a profile and a notification can come from facebook, twitter, gmail, other mail, txt, mms...... etc. Samsungs integration int his regard is also impressive but then Iphone 3.0 software update is also impressive. I know you love your blackberry and it was one of the best at this for a while, you cant really use this line any more though.
Hes not talking about the push functionality, hes talking about being able to search email. Even the 3.0 iPhone firmware only searches sender/subject, but I think the BB lets you do a full search including the body (right Mark?)
For most of us normal folks we dont need that, but if your life is lived in business email then the BB is still the only choice for now. And thats from a die hard Apple fanboy.
Quote from: GoblinHes not talking about the push functionality, hes talking about being able to search email. Even the 3.0 iPhone firmware only searches sender/subject, but I think the BB lets you do a full search including the body (right Mark?)
For most of us normal folks we dont need that, but if your life is lived in business email then the BB is still the only choice for now. And thats from a die hard Apple fanboy.
Must admit I have a HTC for work and its always pissing me off that I cant search the message body. For work its a really important function (for me anyway)
Quote from: GoblinHes not talking about the push functionality, hes talking about being able to search email. Even the 3.0 iPhone firmware only searches sender/subject, but I think the BB lets you do a full search including the body (right Mark?)
For most of us normal folks we dont need that, but if your life is lived in business email then the BB is still the only choice for now. And thats from a die hard Apple fanboy.
I swear I have seen videos of them search content of an email and then copy and pasting content once they did so. Palm Pre and the new Samsung can both search Everything. Palm call it synergy. YOu just type the keypad and it will search applications, then all content on the device from contacts to emails and then if nothing is there offer options to launch google, wikipedia etc.
I know what he means with search, with the amount of emails you get at work you need it, but most of the smart phones out very soon all have this, it is not a "over others" feature blackberry can hold too and from what I have seen of their up and coming phones they are going to start to struggle very soon.
Quote from: neXusI know what he means with search, with the amount of emails you get at work you need it, but most of the smart phones out very soon all have this, it is not a "over others" feature blackberry can hold too and from what I have seen of their up and coming phones they are going to start to struggle very soon.
Ive played with a few of the up and coming handsets, because we are going to have to support them at work. My Pearl 8120 spanks every single one of them for e-mail. Thats an Old design too, the newer ones are better, if a little more poncey. The N97 offers nothing that the N96 doesnt except for the keyboard, Samsung havent worked out easy e-mail yet, and Windows Mobile is an abortion of an OS
Palms Pre as an unknown quantity at present. It should do well, but its competing with better form factors. If e-mail is your major driver then its Blackberry or dont bother.
I cant believe people still use non-gmail email !
Available anywhere in the known universe. Permanent archive, and the quickest search known to man.
G1 is (as you might expect) awesome for gmail, has all the features of the online client on the phone. It is surprisingly robust too seeing how flimsy it appears at first.
Jaimz :rock:
Quote from: SamI cant believe people still use non-gmail email !
Available anywhere in the known universe. Permanent archive, and the quickest search known to man.
I agree, I havent used pop email for personal use for over 10 years. Yahoo Mail & then onto Gmail.
Quote from: BeakerPalms Pre as an unknown quantity at present. It should do well, but its competing with better form factors. If e-mail is your major driver then its Blackberry or dont bother.
Are you referring to the keyboard being vertical from the phone while a lot of the others are doing the horizontal slide out keyboard.
Quote from: neXusAre you referring to the keyboard being vertical from the phone while a lot of the others are doing the horizontal slide out keyboard.
Ish. If youre keyboard slides out like that then it needs to be horizontal, because youre bringing all the annoying things that come with a slider phone, without bringing the benefits of a large keyboard. Blackberry wins with vertical keyboards because its fixed. It cant pop out in your pocket and wack a load of junk into the keyboard.
Quote from: BeakerQuote from: neXusAre you referring to the keyboard being vertical from the phone while a lot of the others are doing the horizontal slide out keyboard.
Ish. If youre keyboard slides out like that then it needs to be horizontal, because youre bringing all the annoying things that come with a slider phone, without bringing the benefits of a large keyboard. Blackberry wins with vertical keyboards because its fixed. It cant pop out in your pocket and wack a load of junk into the keyboard.
Ahh, then not worry as they have a spring curve slide out thing, Mentioned it in a few of the demos. Should not slide out in your pocket etc. It has like a two stage slide, only you actually doing it supposedly gets it going.
Quote from: neXusAhh, then not worry as they have a spring curve slide out thing, Mentioned it in a few of the demos. Should not slide out in your pocket etc. It has like a two stage slide, only you actually doing it supposedly gets it going.
One of my old Nokia phones had the same thing, and it used to pop out in the pocket on a regular basis.
Quote from: BeakerQuote from: neXusAhh, then not worry as they have a spring curve slide out thing, Mentioned it in a few of the demos. Should not slide out in your pocket etc. It has like a two stage slide, only you actually doing it supposedly gets it going.
One of my old Nokia phones had the same thing, and it used to pop out in the pocket on a regular basis.
Yeah, never know really till you get your hands on a phone. The pre is the one I am going to get. The OS being webkits based means as a web developer I can make some cool apps out of it as well as use it for my work needs. No game support really for it, people will find ways to make them but it is not aimed at that market, a lot more towards the Blackberry end.
Flash will come to the phone by the end of the year of not at launch which is cool.
I ordered a G1 tonight.
And its freaking awesome.
Android is pretty good, app adoption is a little slower then they would like though.
Think Im going to get a G1, its a free upgrade so why not ;)
edit: on at the new version of Android (1.5 - Aka Cupcake) is being pushed to all G1s as of the 11th of May.
Giving a on-screen keyboard for when you dont want to open the device (tactical feedback if you want it on as well), video recording and playback, increased security with the 3rd party widgets, live folders on desktop and a couple more apps.
some more info (http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/05/06/android-v15-cupcake-coming-next-week-for-t-mobile-usa-customers-for-real-this-time/)