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Title: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Rivkid on July 22, 2013, 10:05:57 AM
Hi guys,

Got drunk at a mates BBQ on Saturday whilst the wife drove. Apparently we're now going to New York on holiday next year.... she's played that well hasn't she?

Any advice on where to stay and things? Would like a reasonably nice hotel (Leon - no goddamn hostels!!)

Cheers

Riv
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Eggtastico on July 22, 2013, 16:55:57 PM
book via air lingus - cheaper & you can clear immigration in ireland & save  a whole load of body cavity searches
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Sam on July 22, 2013, 20:46:03 PM
Except you have to fly to Ireland first which is 3 hours extra (1 hour + transfer time + UK security + irish security) to save 15 minutes at JFK.

Just book from a proper airport and fly with BA.

As for where to stay. Use priceline.com if you want.

Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Eggtastico on July 23, 2013, 08:51:40 AM
Quote from: Sam on July 22, 2013, 20:46:03 PM
Except you have to fly to Ireland first which is 3 hours extra (1 hour + transfer time + UK security + irish security) to save 15 minutes at JFK.

Just book from a proper airport and fly with BA.

As for where to stay. Use priceline.com if you want.



air lingus are doing some fantastic deals atm, so could work out a lot cheaper because their taxes are cheaper - The 3 hours extra is bollocks + by flying BA you would need to get to london, so if your up north, thats 2hours+ travelling + uk security +JFK security.


(http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/20/01/200165_c7a83b6a.jpg)
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 23, 2013, 10:24:42 AM
Loads of people that want cheap US flights go via Copenhagen and other European business airports, because flights from those airports to the US are dirt cheap. Go from here and you pay a premium.

Of course, flying to mainland Europe first is rather an inconvenience, even if the flights are only a couple of hours. Depends what you value  more I guess, time or money.
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Sam on July 26, 2013, 22:25:06 PM
Quote
air lingus are doing some fantastic deals atm, so could work out a lot cheaper because their taxes are cheaper - The 3 hours extra is bollocks + by flying BA you would need to get to london, so if your up north, thats 2hours+ travelling + uk security +JFK security.

How can you include UK security in the comparison. You have to do that regardless of your next stop. And what's up with JFK? Last time I went through there I was on a student visa, forgot to bring it with me (lol) and was 15 minutes.

I suppose if you're Welsh though they have to be careful  :P

I'd like to see some evidence of these dirty cheap deals as my wife is looking for a flight home in September. You won't find one, but I'm happy to be proven wrong to save some $$$
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Sam on July 26, 2013, 22:26:11 PM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on July 23, 2013, 10:24:42 AM
Loads of people that want cheap US flights go via Copenhagen and other European business airports, because flights from those airports to the US are dirt cheap. Go from here and you pay a premium.

Of course, flying to mainland Europe first is rather an inconvenience, even if the flights are only a couple of hours. Depends what you value  more I guess, time or money.

Same as Egg. My opinion is that is bollocks but again I'd love to be wrong if it shaves some money off the ridiculous prices.

Happy to fly from any London area airport.
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Sam on July 26, 2013, 22:32:10 PM
$650 London to NYC September 30th to October 7.
$609 Dublin.
$767 Copenhagen.

All searched for 3 day range either side.

Not seeing these awesome deals !!

I really think people in this forum just make things up or spout sh*t their mates told them at the pub.

Oh wait, I can save 30 quid if I somehow get to Ireland first, and then I can avoid this huge delay at JFK that doesn't exist.
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 26, 2013, 23:12:48 PM
Don't shoot the messenger lol, I read it on MSE I'm pretty sure so you would have thought it would be legitimate - the airport may not even have been Copenhagen, I'll try and find out! Good of you to take the time to disprove it though and save Rivkid a hassle searching :thumbup:


Well I can't find where I read it at all now, I should have said "apparently", but it appears as Sam proved that it was horsepoo, and makes no sense the more I think about it.
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Rivkid on July 27, 2013, 01:56:05 AM
Sorry if I've rolled a sh*t-grenade and run away here!! However I've talked her out of it on the basis that we (hopefully) move into our first purchased home in a few weeks and she wants a new kitchen and bathroom!

Feet remaining on terra firma = happy Rivkid! :)
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Dave on July 30, 2013, 23:38:43 PM
Quote from: Sam on July 26, 2013, 22:25:06 PM
I'd like to see some evidence of these dirty cheap deals as my wife is looking for a flight home in September. You won't find one, but I'm happy to be proven wrong to save some $$$

edit - sorry Pakistan Airways...

And I'm only semi-joking...

(plus the average terrorist won't want to blow up their own airline)
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Eggtastico on July 31, 2013, 07:47:28 AM
Quote from: Rivkid on July 27, 2013, 01:56:05 AM
Sorry if I've rolled a sh*t-grenade and run away here!! However I've talked her out of it on the basis that we (hopefully) move into our first purchased home in a few weeks and she wants a new kitchen and bathroom!

Feet remaining on terra firma = happy Rivkid! :)

cheaper to go to new york than pay for a new kitchen bathroom ;o)
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Eggtastico on July 31, 2013, 08:00:49 AM
Quote from: Sam on July 26, 2013, 22:32:10 PM
$650 London to NYC September 30th to October 7.
$609 Dublin.
$767 Copenhagen.

All searched for 3 day range either side.

Not seeing these awesome deals !!

I really think people in this forum just make things up or spout sh*t their mates told them at the pub.

Oh wait, I can save 30 quid if I somehow get to Ireland first, and then I can avoid this huge delay at JFK that doesn't exist.

depends on the dates obviously... Aerlingus are advertising quite heavily around here.
http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinformation/weboffersfromuk/uktotheusa/ (http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinformation/weboffersfromuk/uktotheusa/)

I just done a sample search for Feb. From Cardiff to New York.
Just under £550 - your dates come out the same funnily enough
Thats much more convenient for me. If I lived in London, then Id pay the extra, fly direct & NOT have to stop off in Dublin.
flying from London, I would have the extra cost to get to london - train or car - Severn Bridge Toll if I drove, possibly needing an overnight hotel stay - maybe 2!

As I said... Swings & Roundabouts.
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Sam on July 31, 2013, 22:47:29 PM
Quote from: Eggtastico on July 31, 2013, 08:00:49 AM
Quote from: Sam on July 26, 2013, 22:32:10 PM
$650 London to NYC September 30th to October 7.
$609 Dublin.
$767 Copenhagen.

All searched for 3 day range either side.

Not seeing these awesome deals !!

I really think people in this forum just make things up or spout sh*t their mates told them at the pub.

Oh wait, I can save 30 quid if I somehow get to Ireland first, and then I can avoid this huge delay at JFK that doesn't exist.

depends on the dates obviously... Aerlingus are advertising quite heavily around here.
http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinformation/weboffersfromuk/uktotheusa/ (http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinformation/weboffersfromuk/uktotheusa/)

I just done a sample search for Feb. From Cardiff to New York.
Just under £550 - your dates come out the same funnily enough
Thats much more convenient for me. If I lived in London, then Id pay the extra, fly direct & NOT have to stop off in Dublin.
flying from London, I would have the extra cost to get to london - train or car - Severn Bridge Toll if I drove, possibly needing an overnight hotel stay - maybe 2!

As I said... Swings & Roundabouts.

I see just under 550 too. From Cardiff to JFK via Dublin. No difference from London though. So not seeing these fabulous savings I've been promised.

Now of course if you live in the sticks and you don't want to come to London then clearly its a better choice, but its no cheaper, which was everyone's original point, now disproved.
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Sam on July 31, 2013, 22:48:27 PM
Quote from: Dave on July 30, 2013, 23:38:43 PM
Quote from: Sam on July 26, 2013, 22:25:06 PM
I'd like to see some evidence of these dirty cheap deals as my wife is looking for a flight home in September. You won't find one, but I'm happy to be proven wrong to save some $$$

edit - sorry Pakistan Airways...

And I'm only semi-joking...

(plus the average terrorist won't want to blow up their own airline)

The muslims might not bomb pakistan airways but do you trust their aircraft :)

No sh*tkicker airlines for me. BA please and thank you.
Title: Re: New York, New York (ba ba badada...)
Post by: Eggtastico on August 01, 2013, 08:07:55 AM
Quote from: Sam on July 31, 2013, 22:47:29 PM

I see just under 550 too. From Cardiff to JFK via Dublin. No difference from London though. So not seeing these fabulous savings I've been promised.

Now of course if you live in the sticks and you don't want to come to London then clearly its a better choice, but its no cheaper, which was everyone's original point, now disproved.

If I lived in London, I would quite happily pay more for the convenience of flying direct & being closer to home.
How about factoring in the cost of getting to London, possible overnight accomodation & Parking.
If I drove, Id be looking at £80 for Petrol, £6.50 for the Toll Bridge + Parking (£up to £10 a day?)
If I got a train, Id be looking at about £70 to get to Paddington & then whatever the fare is from there to Heathrow - prob about £5?
If theres two of you, then there is not much of a difference.
Factor in a possible 1 or 2 night stay in an airport hotel. - ive done a 12 hour flight from Vegas to Heathrow & then jumped in my car & drove home, was awake for about 30 hours from door to door & I wont be doing that again!

It is cheaper for me & imagine cheaper for Rivkid - as the post was directed for him & not you.

I would be interested to see how much it is to fly just the dublin / new york leg, as its possible you could make it cheaper again if you flew the uk-dublin leg with another budget airline.