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Started by Mark, October 12, 2007, 01:56:11 AM

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Mark

ffs, im waiting almost 2 weeks on parts to finish the car because theyre on bloody strike. sort it out

neXus

Dads contract from new zealand arrived Wednesday sent September
We had a letter confirming an appointment that took place Tuesday on thursday, lol
I am waiting for my operation letter as well as other stuff, its a right mess

Post office workers reckon they are only a day behind - bollucks, Leicester has been one of the places with illegal strikes we found out this week which has been going on for weeks now and so were more like 2weeks off stuff

Eggtastico

Good luck to the posties.

If people knew the exact reasons, theyd back them as well.

Biggest problem is they want to salary them & do away with overtime payment.

So If I wasnt in work today for example, Nexus would be expected to do my round after his for no extra money!

Quixoticish

Bugger the strikes to be honest, Ive no sympathy for them. In fact I lost sympathy for strike action a long time ago and dont care if youre a fire-fighter, postman or university lecturer; it all smacks of petulance and spitting your dummy out.

Mark

if RM management dont cave in after next week, theyre NEVER going to.


Clock'd 0Ne

Quote from: Chris HBugger the strikes to be honest, Ive no sympathy for them. In fact I lost sympathy for strike action a long time ago and dont care if youre a fire-fighter, postman or university lecturer; it all smacks of petulance and spitting your dummy out.

Too right.

If you dont like your job you eff off and do something else, not inconvenience others - especially in a job like this that lets be honest, any monkey in a red van could do. The morons dont realise the strike is losing them support, and businesses are wisening up and changing to other couriers...

neXus

I still think in a few years you will have small postal shops for companies popping up for packages and post boxes with 2-4 slots for different companies and the stamps relevent to that company

Kunal

This strike is really starting to piss me off.

Im off on hols next Friday and Im still waiting on two replace cards to come through along with some stuff off eBay that I need for the trip :(

Mark

Still my stuff hasnt arrived.

This is going to be another wasted weekend.

Mark

Quote from: KunalThis strike is really starting to piss me off.

Im off on hols next Friday and Im still waiting on two replace cards to come through along with some stuff off eBay that I need for the trip :(

good luck, as it looks like theyre striking all week next week, and a few places have been on perma strike.

Beaker

Quote from: EggtasticoGood luck to the posties.

If people knew the exact reasons, theyd back them as well.

Biggest problem is they want to salary them & do away with overtime payment.

So If I wasnt in work today for example, Nexus would be expected to do my round after his for no extra money!

erm, as i understand it from my postman the main "Problem" is that The company want postmen to work their full shifts.  At present if they finish early they can go home early, then come in later for overtime, or they can quite often go straight into overtime, meaning they get paid extra for it.  i.e. Postman works 5 hours in a morning and gets finished, he can then go home and have 3 hours sat on his arse not being paid, then if he feels like it and overtime is available he can go in again and earn some more money.  According to the dude i was speaking to the big thing is the RM want the postmen to work the hours they are being paid for, and they are more upset at that than anything else.  Sorry, but on most of our planets we get paid for the hours we work, why shouldnt postmen?  If you only want to work 5 hours then get paid for 5 hours work, not 8.  What was really irritatnig as the postman didnt seem to see any problems with only working half th ehours he was paid for, then wandering off home.

Serious

Quote from: MarkStill my stuff hasnt arrived.

This is going to be another wasted weekend.

Worth phoning up the sorting office and asking if they have a parcel for you. I have had a couple recently where the item was there but the delivery person was too lazy to come and ring the door bell, or shove a card in.

If they have it then go and collect in person.

Mardoni

Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: EggtasticoGood luck to the posties.

If people knew the exact reasons, theyd back them as well.

Biggest problem is they want to salary them & do away with overtime payment.

So If I wasnt in work today for example, Nexus would be expected to do my round after his for no extra money!

erm, as i understand it from my postman the main "Problem" is that The company want postmen to work their full shifts.  At present if they finish early they can go home early, then come in later for overtime, or they can quite often go straight into overtime, meaning they get paid extra for it.  i.e. Postman works 5 hours in a morning and gets finished, he can then go home and have 3 hours sat on his arse not being paid, then if he feels like it and overtime is available he can go in again and earn some more money.  According to the dude i was speaking to the big thing is the RM want the postmen to work the hours they are being paid for, and they are more upset at that than anything else.  Sorry, but on most of our planets we get paid for the hours we work, why shouldnt postmen?  If you only want to work 5 hours then get paid for 5 hours work, not 8.  What was really irritatnig as the postman didnt seem to see any problems with only working half th ehours he was paid for, then wandering off home.

The other way to look at it is that the posties can quite easily make their delivery rounds take 8 hours. That screws us and RM.

If I was in a job where there had been an unwritten rule that finishing your round was the end of the job, I too would be kicking up a fuss over suddenly having to work the extra time.


What about people who work on bonus ? Where they are given a number of hours to complete a job but if the job takes longer then they are not paid for that excess time ? Are you saying that they should stop working if the job goes over the allotted time ?

Clock'd 0Ne

Quote from: NimrodWhat about people who work on bonus ? Where they are given a number of hours to complete a job but if the job takes longer then they are not paid for that excess time ? Are you saying that they should stop working if the job goes over the allotted time ?

Thats a totally different situation.

If you require extra hours to complete a job it becomes overtime. If you finish work early and there are other jobs you could help out with tbh you could show a bit of camaraderie, even if its not enforced. To go beyond that and say people should be allowed to bunk off whenever theyve done their bit is proposterous when there other jobs/coworkers that may need assistance.

Anyone that truly believes that to be good practice I would personally brand a workshy, clockwatching jobsworth.

Eggtastico

Quote from: Beakererm, as i understand it from my postman the main "Problem" is that The company want postmen to work their full shifts.  At present if they finish early they can go home early, then come in later for overtime, or they can quite often go straight into overtime, meaning they get paid extra for it.  i.e. Postman works 5 hours in a morning and gets finished, he can then go home and have 3 hours sat on his arse not being paid, then if he feels like it and overtime is available he can go in again and earn some more money.  According to the dude i was speaking to the big thing is the RM want the postmen to work the hours they are being paid for, and they are more upset at that than anything else.  Sorry, but on most of our planets we get paid for the hours we work, why shouldnt postmen?  If you only want to work 5 hours then get paid for 5 hours work, not 8.  What was really irritatnig as the postman didnt seem to see any problems with only working half th ehours he was paid for, then wandering off home.

I forgot to mention about the pension they want to change.
RM want to pay the posties their average earnings, instead of what is usually a final earnings salary.

So if they earned £35k a year when they retired, instead of paying them £35k a year, they want to cut it & pay their average earnings instead. They aint taking inflation into account, so if you started on somthing like £5k 30 years ago, then go up £1k a year for the last 30 years, that would average as £20k a year. Big difference eh?