Talking about Red Lights and Car Drivers.... 

Ok, question.....

Why should cyclists pay road tax when even some cars are tax free?

Any vehicle that uses the road should pay road tax, be it a cycle or a low emission-mobile.

Quote from: Walrusbonzo on October 22, 2011, 12:49:25 PM

Ok, question.....

Why should cyclists pay road tax when even some cars are tax free?

Any vehicle that uses the road should pay road tax, be it a cycle or a low emission-mobile.

Road tax was abolished in 1937.  It's now a tax on the car.

The Road Fund was never fully utilised, returning a surplus each year, and it became notorious for being used for other government purposes.[3] Winston Churchill opposed the Road Fund, saying: "It will be only a step from this for them to claim in a few years the moral ownership of the roads their contributions have created".[5] In 1926 as Chancellor of the Exchequer Churchill sought, successfully, to redirect a third of payments as taxation on luxury and pleasure uses with the stated aim of putting competition between road and rail on a fair basis.

http://ipayroadtax.com/category/no-such-thing-as-road-tax/
http://ipayroadtax.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/WhoPaysForRoads.jpg

But you're still referring to it as if it gave you a sense of entitlement on the road.
Just because you pay a token amount to use your car doesn't give you any rights whatsoever.
I pay to keep three cars on the road, two with large engines.  Does that give me more entitlement than you?

You could pay nothing, or £1m and you still would have equal rights.

You could say black people are still colloquially known as N*****s, doesn't make that any more relevant.


I don't see why they should pay to use the road if they want to make a choice to take the cheaper, greener option.
Hybrids should still pay though.  They aren't as economical as they'd like you to believe and the owners are generally smug f*ckers.
Just like the cyclists who wear that "One Less Car" hi-viz.

As a cyclist and a driver, I'd like to smack them.

Quote from: soopahfly on October 24, 2011, 20:10:29 PM

But you're still referring to it as if it gave you a sense of entitlement on the road.
Just because you pay a token amount to use your car doesn't give you any rights whatsoever.
I pay to keep three cars on the road, two with large engines.  Does that give me more entitlement than you?

You could pay nothing, or £1m and you still would have equal rights.

You could say black people are still colloquially known as N*****s, doesn't make that any more relevant.


I don't see why they should pay to use the road if they want to make a choice to take the cheaper, greener option.
Hybrids should still pay though.  They aren't as economical as they'd like you to believe and the owners are generally smug f*ckers.
Just like the cyclists who wear that "One Less Car" hi-viz.

As a cyclist and a driver, I'd like to smack them.

I've no idea what you mean by "you're still referring to it as if it gave you a sense of entitlement on the road." I don't drive.

Not referring to you directly. A general you if you like
Maybe I should have said "you're still referring to it as if it gave a sense of entitlement on the road.