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Title: The end is Nigh!
Post by: Serious on July 08, 2016, 19:04:13 PM
No, not some random religious nut, Richard Brandson. If anything is going to make the stock markets and currency unstable it's people who should know better railing on about there being disaster underway when we haven't actually started.

Anyone think he needs to take a nice big drink of STFU?
Title: Re: The end is Nigh!
Post by: soopahfly on July 09, 2016, 11:52:53 AM
I think he's probably right. Our currency isn't worth sh*t.
Title: Re: The end is Nigh!
Post by: Serious on July 10, 2016, 01:52:11 AM
and it might be, or people who should know better may be just making the situation worse. A lower value for the pound isn't necessarily bad. 1966 the exchange rate was US $2.80 per pound sterling, 1948 it would get you US $4.

People predicting something can make it come true. At present there is no possible way of predicting how things will turn out in two years time. MPs might still reject the referendum result, or we could get a really good deal, the EU countries need that as much as we do.

What we need at the moment is stability, not panic.
Title: Re: The end is Nigh!
Post by: zpyder on July 10, 2016, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: Serious on July 10, 2016, 01:52:11 AM
People predicting something can make it come true. At present there is no possible way of predicting how things will turn out in two years time. MPs might still reject the referendum result, or we could get a really good deal, the EU countries need that as much as we do.

What we need at the moment is stability, not panic.

Yes, brexit predictions about the EU getting more powerful, more immigration etc, made brexit happen, even if the predictions weren't necessarily grounded in truth.

I'd agree we need stability, but I also think it's important that people in power and the media communicate possible outcomes of different scenarios to ensure the public are as informed as possible. Which is interesting, as when the recession first hit I really hated all the scaremongering in the media and felt that if they'd focused on other news, people would have been less scared and more inclined to carry on as normal, spending money etc, shortening and lessening the effects of the recession. So a bit of double standards from me perhaps.

A news article closer to home for me is that the founder of lush cosmetics has made a statement that if the migrant laws get tightened up, he'd be moving to Germany with he company as most of his employees are from Europe. Is it scaremongering? I don't think so. I think it's good he's being straightforward with it, so if he has to do that it's not a nasty surprise in a few years time.

We can't just blindly rush into brexit without giving a thought to the potential negative outcomes. Personally I don't see how we can expect Europe to give us a good deal. We need Europe more than they need us IMHO, whatever deal we get would be more in the EU's favour I suspect.
Title: Re: The end is Nigh!
Post by: Serious on July 10, 2016, 22:33:13 PM
So most of his employees are from Europe. He's going to spend a lot of money to move his company to Germany where the employment regulations are tougher than the UK. I hope he moves all his shops too, cause he sells a lot here through them. Actually I have some suspicions...

QuoteLush employs some 1,400 people in Poole, and around a third of those do not have British citizenship.

Constantine said the referendum result had signalled to staff from overseas that they're 'not welcome and not wanted in Poole', where 58% of people voted to leave the EU.
QuoteEmployees will be given the option of moving to Dusseldorf if they wish.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/10/lush-cosmetics-moves-to-germany-because-of-brexit-5998494/

So not quite what he said. And considering how little time has passed since Brexit and they already have premises set up? Oh yes they have - from before Brexit.

And yes, the government do need to consider all options. Hopefully they will do so before putting Article 50 into effect.