Well this is as easy as it gets!
(called turbo as its so quick and easy)
Ingredients:
4.5L of pure apple juice
1tsp yeast
Method:
1. Place 3L of apple juice into a demijon (assumeing everything is sterile)
2. PLace 1tsp of yeast into the demijon
3. shake
4. leave for 36-48hrs to ferment then top with with the remaining of the juice (cant fill it right up at the start as it will foam quite a bit)
5. leave to ferment out (Thats when there are no more bubbles or little activity - will take 1-2 weeks IIRC, maybe a tad longer)
6. Rack off and drink (or if you like cider fizzy then prime as usual)
(to Prime, just stir in a spoonfull of sugar to give it some fizz)
i used tesco value apple juice and SG was 1.042 so no sugar was necessary (to get to 5.5%ish) but if you want cider stronger add sugar/honey or whatever.
STEP 4 IS IMPORTANT - BELIEVE ME FROM EXPERIENCE :mrgreen:
Hows this taste? Sounds tempting ...
Quote from: sexytwHows this taste? Sounds tempting ...
Its quite nice.
Its not scrumpy cider as its not made in some old bath :lol:
You could always make it from 1litre to try (pour it into a 2 or 3 litre pet bottle (ie empty coke bottle).
I put a bag of sugar in mine & it came out at about 9%.
Its great for BBQs, summer drinking, camping, etc.
Its basically Apple Wine - or if you put in Honey instead of Sugar, then its Apple Mead :mrgreen:
Im going to try this tomorrow :)
Is the yeast you use the powered stuff or the gungy stuff?
Quote from: sdpIm going to try this tomorrow :)
Is the yeast you use the powered stuff or the gungy stuff?
Powder - Its like Granuals, you can use Bread Yeast.
I belive Morristons has a Wine Makers section in some stores, so you could get proper Brewers Yeast. Both should give results, just that Bread Yeast will be killed off by the Alcohol at a lower %Vol - but you should still make 5% easily enough.. if you want to go a lot more, then get some wine yeast (should only cost about £2 for a tub load)
sounds like a definite must try project. Next free weekend I get its being made!!
Im tempted to try this when I finish with this 2 litre bottle of pepsi..
So what other juices could I use theoretically? Just apple or pear? Or could I experiment with mixed fruit juice, etc. ?
Best place to keep to ferment? Bathrooms cupboard with the boiler in? Would it stink the place out too?
Cheers :)
This sounds ace! Getting drunk for real cheap! Win.
Quote from: jamieLIm tempted to try this when I finish with this 2 litre bottle of pepsi..
So what other juices could I use theoretically? Just apple or pear? Or could I experiment with mixed fruit juice, etc. ?
Best place to keep to ferment? Bathrooms cupboard with the boiler in? Would it stink the place out too?
Cheers :)
You could use any, though I wouldnt recommend a Citrus one.
Apple & Cranberry is supposed to be a nice alternative.
Step 6 - Rack Off
That means Syphon from 1 container into another container - Do not disturb the sediment thats collected at the bottom - it wont be harmfull, it will just be little bits of fruit thats got in the juice & the Yeast.
If your going to make itl in a Pet bottle, remember to only use 1L at the start as the Fermentation makes a mess until it slows down. You can top up later if you want.
Also, make a hole in the lid so the fermentation gas can escape
just remember the brail keyboard when it turns you blind.
Quote from: piratingpiratepiratesjust remember the brail keyboard when it turns you blind.
I havent mentioned adding Anti Freeze anywhere
Quote from: sdpIm going to try this tomorrow :)
Is the yeast you use the powered stuff or the gungy stuff?
Plenty of places sell proper beer and wine making yeast. Personally go for the beer stuff unless you want a wine as the other will use up all the sugar and it will taste very dry. Most branches of Boots should have some as well as many supermarkets and specialist stores.
http://www.chasethedevil.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1856
May help some of you :)
interesting.
Ok decided Im definitely doing this as soon as I get some free time. My dads got a sh*t load of old beer / wine making kit so Im stealing his demijohn and airlock. Might be a week or two till I get some free time (bloody working this weekend - disgraceful! I dont work weekends grrrr...) but will post pics once done.
Ive got 2litres of apple juice, pure, nothing added to it at all. I think.
Ive got a big tub of yeast, they didnt have sachets except for the hovis stuff.
Ive got a 2 litre bottle of water, which Im gonna empty and use to make the cider in.
Plan is to make 1.5litres. I was gonna go for 5 but I wanna see how smelly/messy/tasty it is first.
edit: -
Technical problem: the yeast says I need to activate it in 150ml of water, that doesnt apply, right? Cos the apple juice will activate it, right?
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Technical problem: the yeast says I need to activate it in 150ml of water, that doesnt apply, right? Cos the apple juice will activate it, right?
Shucks the plan has been foiled? He sits avidly awaiting a response before the alcohol consumption can begin.
Indeed, but anticipated some hickups along the way, so I got 12 cans of beer to see me through.
Ok, I tipped the yeast straight into the 1.5l apple j, Ive shaken it and now it smells funny..
stand by.
Take cover! :D
The Juice:
(http://www.palmer934.plus.com/applejuice.jpg)
The Yeast:
(http://www.palmer934.plus.com/yeast.jpg)
Bottle:
(http://www.palmer934.plus.com/bottle1.jpg)
(http://www.palmer934.plus.com/bottle2.jpg)
Well it looks like cider ... it also looks like piss too, but as long as its alcoholic and tastes of apples whos complaining! :lol:
You can activate the yeast in water if you want.
No harm done..
I hope the Apple Juice aint sugar free - or you will have The Turbo Cider equivelent of Kaliber :mrgreen:
You can always add some sugar
i) to taste ii) to make it stronger.
IS THERE A HOLE IN THE LID?
Prick a Ballon at the top & stretch it across the top
I made a little hole in the lid so it can breath. The white line on the lid is where I stabbed it with a razor blade.
Its not sugar free juice, no :D
Edit: theres a load of slimy stuff at the bottom, about 6mm deep, is that normal?
Quote from: sdpI made a little hole in the lid so it can breath. The white line on the lid is where I stabbed it with a razor blade.
Its not sugar free juice, no :D
Edit: theres a load of slimy stuff at the bottom, about 6mm deep, is that normal?
Yea, it can be.. Thats the Yeast.
Make sure you keep it warm, but not hot as youll kill the yeast!
If I wanted to make it stronger how much sugar are we talking?
Quote from: sdpIf I wanted to make it stronger how much sugar are we talking?
About 1/4 a bag should take it up a good notch or so :-D
The froth has gone right done and the funny smell has gone too, it smells very sweet and tasty right now. Its tempting to thrown the rest of the juice in because really nothing much is happening so far.
Ive put in about 1/8th a bag of sugar in, its all I had left in the kitchen. If it dont rot my liver its gonna rot my teeth.
Quote from: sdpThe froth has gone right done and the funny smell has gone too, it smells very sweet and tasty right now. Its tempting to thrown the rest of the juice in because really nothing much is happening so far.
Ive put in about 1/8th a bag of sugar in, its all I had left in the kitchen. If it dont rot my liver its gonna rot my teeth.
how cold is the bottle? The Fruit Juice wasnt chilled was it? It needs to be room temperature. The Yeast turns the Sugar into Alcohol, Yeast breeds best when its warm.
It may be worth following the instructions & Activate the Yeast, Pour it in & Give it all another Shake.
The juice was room temp, and the bottle is room temp too.
Should I be looking for fizzing or anything?
/Mixing some yeast up with water now.
No it wont fizz, you should see bubbles now & again. Its much easier with a baloon top or an Air lock - as when Gas passes through the airlock you can see it.
There should be bubbling activity.
You can add more Fruit Juice if there isnt much.
It usually depends on the APple Juice. Some are more active than others
Dissolve 1 dessertspoon of sugar in luke warm water (not hot) roughly about 150 ml,
Then simply add the yeast culture (all of the sachet) to the above, DO NOT STIR cover the end of the jar with something ,i.e a plate or better still plug it with cotton wool,but dont make it air tight as the yeast will some oxygen to get started.
I think your Yeast may need to be kickstarted into life.
The tub says it needs warm water (1part boiling, 2 parts cold) - thats where Ive gone wrong.
QuoteI started some turbo cider yesterday...
How do I know when its finished fermenting. What bubble rate or sg reading should I be looking for and roughly how many days should it take to get to this stage?
I want to make it fizzy so what should I do after fermentation? I obviously dont want to kill the yeast so should I bottle it (and bung in the sugar) straight away or do I have to do something else first?
QuoteOk, I need some help...
I went to inspect my fermenting stuff this morning and noticed that no bubbles (well, not many) were coming out of my turbo cider. (It was quite slow yesterday). I took an sg and it was just below 1.00000. That doesnt sound wrong for the no bubbles but what Im confused about is that I only started it on 30/07/07.
I used bread yeast (yes, yes I know but I did) and I didnt see any vigorous bubbling but could it really be done already?
If it is done will leaving it a couple of days as it is hurt? I need to find some empty coke bottles to bottle it with (and then prime with sugar).
What should I do?
QuoteWell it is in the kitchen, on the floor next to the oven...
Im going to bottle it then - Im supposed to bottle it cloudy right? And add a bit of sugar to get it fizzy.
QuoteDoes it take long to clear in the bottle?
Ive got it all bottled up in 330ml bottles now (simpsons lemonade 5 for a quid at asda) and I bunged in a teaspoon of sugar in each one.
Im supposed to leave it in the warm for a while and then fridge it
QuoteI sampled the first bottle of my turbo cider just now.
I am amazed at how nice it is. It tastes like cider. The fizz is so good I wouldnt have believed that it was natural if I hadnt made it myself.
Also as it was made in just 6 days I can make it faster than I drink it.
Quote from: sdpThe tub says it needs warm water (1part boiling, 2 parts cold) - thats where Ive gone wrong.
Yep, best to follow the instructions for the Yeast - All Yeasts are different, so its not always the same
Doh! I missed the bit where it said put the sugar in.
Try again..
edit: started again with dissolved white sugar, brown sugar, and golden syrup and the mix is going frothy!! w00t!
0049hrs: Its working! If I shake the bottle up with my thumb over the hole it goes hard.
errr... its bubbling :w00t:
Thankee Egg :ptu:
Should be ready by next weekend then :-D
When its finished its still cider. If you rack the fluid off and bottle it, preferably in some proper beer bottles. Add a half teaspoon of sugar per bottle before you cap it and the result should be sparkling cider, although you have to be careful pouring to avoid disturbing the sediment and cooling it will not work, it will loose the fizz.
1715
Its definitely working - there are loads of tiny bubbles coming up and its got a 2" head on it, Im glad I didnt top it up anymore. The slime has gone and now my only slight concern is that theres a few little lumps of stuff floating in it.
It smells good tho.
I wish I knew about this when I was a kid.
the floaty stuff will sink eventually, its just sediment.
When you come to racking, I would personally Syphon from that big bottle into another big bottle & leave it for a day & then syphon again into the original big bottle after it had been cleaned. Thats called Racking.
I was planning on pouring it through a filter, would syphoning it be better?
Its smelling quite potent already :D
yes, Syphon is better.
I got a proper Wine Filter & Filter Papers & Sediment STILL gets through :shock:
you also get a mouthfull to taste while syphoning ;-D
Siphon ftw. Make sure you keep your homebrew above floor level for the last few days so you can siphon it out without having to move it and mix the sediment up again.
Im so doing this when Im back at uni - I reckon Ill do it in those 4L squash bottles though, looks a bit less suspicious to the bedders than a demijohn :D
2224 pee emm.
Its still bubbling away. I had a slight containment field breach yesterday morning, but the tiny hole in the lid worked well - it lets the gas out without letting too much liquid out. The bubble rate has been pretty much constant over the past 36hrs. It was tempting to add some cherry, rasberry and *something* juice to it but theres no room left in the bottle now.
A community of white gunge is developing at the bottom. Its growing slowly and seems the source of most of the bubbles. This could be the yest settling down, getting married and having baby yeasts. I like to think so anyway.
Smell, its not changed much, still dry and sweet and appley.
Quote from: sdp2224 pee emm.
Its still bubbling away. I had a slight containment field breach yesterday morning, but the tiny hole in the lid worked well - it lets the gas out without letting too much liquid out. The bubble rate has been pretty much constant over the past 36hrs. It was tempting to add some cherry, rasberry and *something* juice to it but theres no room left in the bottle now.
A community of white gunge is developing at the bottom. Its growing slowly and seems the source of most of the bubbles. This could be the yest settling down, getting married and having baby yeasts. I like to think so anyway.
Smell, its not changed much, still dry and sweet and appley.
sounds all about right.
Either the Yeast will turn all the sugar into alcohol & then the bubbles will slow down, or the Alcohol will kill the Yeast & then the bubbles will slow down.
Im gonna try this once Ive ran my 1/2 marathon and Im back on the alcohol.
Cheers :)
I just had another look and theres been a big change.
Theres lots more white gunge at the bottom and the bubbling has pretty much stopped. Now theres only the occasional big bubble, whereas before it was millions of tiny ones. Its clearing up a bit too, looks a lot less murky than it did last night. I think its nearly ready.
Im guessing itll be ready to syphon off tomorrow, and then maybe I can taste-test it.
edit: Ive been thinking about the syphoning part of this process and in hindsight I think itd be better to use a larger bottle and more apple juice, just to give the stuff a better chance to settle at the bottom. Im worried that syphoning will suck up all the crap because its faily shallow - I guess Ill have to wait and see. I read somewhere its ok to drink cloudy, but Id like to get it fairly clear.
Its a nice pumpkiny colour right now, but theres still a lot of very fine sediment floating in it, this is cos its still slowly bubbling up and the crap is so tiny the bubbles carry it up to the top. I poured a tiny bit onto a flat plate and you can see theres loads of it still in suspension.
Patience is required for this. Im not touching it again for at least 2 weeks now.
I worked out that my sugar content was around 25%, 11% from the juice and the rest I added, so it should be quite strong. It smells nearer 10% than 5%, which Im happy with.
I syphoned it off on monday, and that cleared it nicely, but then I syphoned it off again this morning and now its the colour of apple juice again.
It actually tastes really nice flat, sweet but not sicky. I think its nearer 5-6% than ten, but yeah smells a wee bit funny but its dead tasty.
flat? so like scrumpy then? :) Nice....
you need to prime it when you put it into bottles.
Add a spoon of sugar & it should give it some fizz if you leave it in a bottle for a few days.
Sounds damn fun, defintly something to try when I got some spare time (why didnt someone post this when I was un-employed!)
And as someone said why didnt i know about this when a kid?
Tesco wont sell you beer so you go buy 5Lrs of cider and some brew yeast :P
Im gonna get a 5l bottle tomorrow and do another batch of the stuff :)
have you drunk the first yet?
Demijohns are only £5 each - since you need to syphon from one to another, you will need two.
My brewing equipment consists of about 15 demijohns & 3x 25l brewing buckets. Just as easy & quick to brew 25l as it is 5l - except for the filling up with water & transfering containers. But the whole processing time is the same
I read somewhere recently that you can make something similar to mead by adding honey to the fermentation process.
Also apparently adding other pure juices can produce tasty results.
Quote from: sexytwI read somewhere recently that you can make something similar to mead by adding honey to the fermentation process.
Also apparently adding other pure juices can produce tasty results.
Yep, I think Ive mentioned that elswhere :?
Quote from: EggtasticoQuote from: sexytwI read somewhere recently that you can make something similar to mead by adding honey to the fermentation process.
Also apparently adding other pure juices can produce tasty results.
Yep, I think Ive mentioned that elswhere :?
Hmmm, maybe the somewhere i read it was here! :o
I was in tescos today and pure juices (not from concentrate) are pretty costy. They had pure apple juice for 77p per litre but most others (grape, pineapple etc) were around £1.40 a litre.
Would have prefered to use nice juice but ill probably go for the tesco value stuff!
CHEAPER THE BETTER, THERES ADDED SUGAR THEN :-d
I got mine from morrisons. Didnt look at the price but the cheap stuff is hidden miles from the expensive stuff, like in a corner at the opposite end of the shop.
Currently there are £10 off £30 spend at tesco online vouchers floating around (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deal/48127/10-if-a-30-spend-on-groceries-at-te)
They also have DelMonty Pure Apple juice as buy on get on free (maximum of 10 per order). So ...
Order upto £30 of BOGOF things (in reality this is only £15 of things but the discount is applied later), apply the code for £10 off, and add £5ish for delivery ... result is £30 worth of things (inc 10 litres of pure apple juice) delivered for £10!!
Mine arrives tonight ... hopefully
I finally got mine on the go. I bought some Youngs Cider Yeast so hopefully it will be nice and tasty.
Ive got two containers:
Container 1: 16 liters of apple juice and 1kg of sugar
Container 2: 4 liters of apple juice and 990g of honey
The specific gravity of container 2 suggests that it might come out at around 14% :D I didnt check the SG of container 1 as the sugar isnt very dissolved.
It all went in about an hour ago .... not much activity yet
If the sugar isnt dissolved give it a swirl or two to disturb it every day. It should go into solution eventually. You dont want too much sugar in suspension at once.
(http://www.planetwilliams.co.uk/files/cider.jpg)
Both containers are bubbling away, about one bubble through the air-lock every 30-40 seconds.
It didnt really fizz up like i was anticipating ... does that mean the yeast hasnt full activated yet? Or is it safe to top up with the rest or the apple juice.
Sounds like the yeast aint warm enough.
Where are they stored? they should really be kept warm at around room temperature - Garage could be to cold unless its near a readiator or some heat of somesort. Temperatures going up & down aint really good, much better at a constant temperature
Im not really sure where to keep them, they probably are too cold at the moment.
Our house tends to be pretty cold, its empty most of the day and costs a fortune to keep warm so we dont tend to bother.
Ill try and find the warmest room, currently they are by the oil cooker (in picture) which gets very warm but fluctuates loads.
Cheers
Mine took a few days to really start fizzing iirc.
Quote from: sexytwIm not really sure where to keep them, they probably are too cold at the moment.
Our house tends to be pretty cold, its empty most of the day and costs a fortune to keep warm so we dont tend to bother.
Ill try and find the warmest room, currently they are by the oil cooker (in picture) which gets very warm but fluctuates loads.
Cheers
you could wrap a blanket around them
It takes a few days for the yeast to get going, if its not warm then shove the bottles into your airing cupboard or by a radiator. Cold yeast means a slow fermentation, it should finish OK but may take a lot longer than expected.
Breweries have huge fermentation tanks and have to cool the things down or the yeast dies through heat exhaustion.
Ive just half filled two 5 litre brewers bottles with value apple juice, half a bag of sugar each and a rather large tablespoon of brewers yeast. Ill top them up with another lot of apple juice in 24 hours and then hope it ferments properly. Finding a warm spot in our house is difficult as we only have the heating to come on at certain times and no warm airing cupboard as we have an automatic gas boiler but they are next to the radiator now and will get wrapped in blankets once I top them up. No fizzing or bubbling yet but it may take a few days to get going.
Is there any way to test after a week if its fermenting (i.e check the alcohol content)? I dont fancy drinking five litres of artificially sweetened apple juice and finding myself completely un-pissed at the end of it all.
as long as its bubbling, then its fermenting.
You werent kidding when you said it fizzed up were you? In a 5 litre plastic type brewers bottle I only filled 3 litres and the rest is taken up with foam. The second bottle I filled (only 2 litres this time) is starting to foam in the same way. I may have to delay filling the bottles with another five litres for a few days until they settle a bit.. I think maybe I added too much yeast as well.
Dont worry about the yeast level you put in, the stuff is a living animal and reproduces like crazy when in a suitable medium. Last time I did anything like that I used the lees (the yeast that had dropped to the bottom) from a one gallon batch to start a five gallon one.
If you decide to go for high end production then its worth cycling out, removing and filtering the stuff after a few days and then using a small part to start the next batch.
Problem is you might end up making so much you will be drinking like an alcoholic by going down that route.
Mine never did fizz up much :S It has been bubbling every second or so tho so I guess its fermenting ok.
The smell and colour have changed quite a bit.
When do i know ite done? When the bubbling stops?
When the bubbling slows to near stop. Apple juice might get a head on it and be fizzy during fermenting, or it may not. Depends on the apples used. It should still fizz a bit during fermentation, if it doesnt then its too cold.
Well I topped up the last apple juice today, so Ive got two 5 litre demi-johns filled with 4 litres each. They are foaming so much I have to keep cleaning the air locks out as they keep getting full of foam.
Thats normal. They should slow down in a day orso.
Morrisons ave got 3 for 2 on apple juice. I got 5 litres on the go.
Quote from: sexytwMine never did fizz up much :S It has been bubbling every second or so tho so I guess its fermenting ok.
The smell and colour have changed quite a bit.
When do i know ite done? When the bubbling stops?
yes, pretty much so.
Just measured my smaller container and the SG is now 1.028 (started 1.110) which by my calculations (using this (http://www.honeycreek.us/specfic_gravity_table.htm) site) makes it 10.6% :lol:
Both are still fermenting away with bubbles every second or two. They do smell of ass though :(
(http://www.palmer934.plus.com/cider.jpg)
Im still quite ghetto but I figure the plastic bottles are disposable, I cba with all the sterilising malarky,.
All of the fizzing has stopped but Im still getting bubbles coming out of the air lock. Im waiting for it to clear a bit before testing though... it still looks a little like custard. I know scrumpy is supposed to be cloudy but its a little too cloudy at the moment.
It should start clearing up once the bubbling stops, all the crap should sink down and you can just syphon it off.
Going to give it another 24 hours and then start siphoning. Its all but stopped bubbling unless I tap the air lock and the vinometer reads it at about 14%. Hopefully a taste testing should follow at the weekend, although I may have to find some way to make it a bit less sweet as its too sweet even for me and I usually drink pear cider.
If it still isnt clear then there are two possibles, one is that yeast is still in suspension, which you can remove with finnings. The other, particular to cider , is that the fruit itself has provided a haze, for which you cant do a bloody thing now.
I would assume its a haze. As you rack it off pass it through a sterilised cloth in a funnel, might help.
Quote from: SeriousIf it still isnt clear then there are two possibles, one is that yeast is still in suspension, which you can remove with finnings. The other, particular to cider , is that the fruit itself has provided a haze, for which you cant do a bloody thing now.
I would assume its a haze. As you rack it off pass it through a sterilised cloth in a funnel, might help.
Ill siphon it across a few times to make sure all of the yeast has settled and then Ill but it through some cloth if its still quite custardy, but its not looking too bad. As I said my only gripe is I need to bitter it up a bit, its so sweet I feel my teeth enamel melting off.
Mine is still bubbling after 9 days :/
Mine stopped bubbling today ... making it 16 days of fermentation. Probably because the containers were pretty cold at times.
Hoping its going to clear fast so i can get to tasting!
Im still siphoning mine, every couple of days a load of black matter accumulates at the bottom of the demijohns so I really dont fancy drinking it yet until it can sit for a few days without spitting out crap.
Hows all the cider going guys? Ive enjoyed reading this thread at work :)
I drank all mine after 3x syphonings. It was nice but I did a batch with no sugar and it was much nicer.
Ciders lovely, although Im going to try a sugarless batch next time as according to the vinometer its 15%-ish and tastes very much like an apple wine, which is nice but it isnt cider. Hopefully without sugar the alcohol will drop a bit and itll be a bit less sweet. Might add a different flavoured juice mid-way through fermentation as well to see how it goes.
Edit : in fact tesco delivered the apple juice today so Im off to fill four 5l demijohns.
Quote from: Chris HCiders lovely, although Im going to try a sugarless batch next time as according to the vinometer its 15%-ish and tastes very much like an apple wine, which is nice but it isnt cider. Hopefully without sugar the alcohol will drop a bit and itll be a bit less sweet. Might add a different flavoured juice mid-way through fermentation as well to see how it goes.
Edit : in fact tesco delivered the apple juice today so Im off to fill four 5l demijohns.
prob cheaper to just buy a case of bow with all offers around atm
Quote from: sdpI drank all mine after 3x syphonings. It was nice but I did a batch with no sugar and it was much nicer.
As Chris H has found adding excessive sugar is going to make it more like a high alcohol wine. There should be enough in the juice by itself for between 5-7 percent alcohol which is where most ciders are. You can end up with unfermented sugar too which makes it taste too sweet.
Quote from: EggtasticoQuote from: Chris HCiders lovely, although Im going to try a sugarless batch next time as according to the vinometer its 15%-ish and tastes very much like an apple wine, which is nice but it isnt cider. Hopefully without sugar the alcohol will drop a bit and itll be a bit less sweet. Might add a different flavoured juice mid-way through fermentation as well to see how it goes.
Edit : in fact tesco delivered the apple juice today so Im off to fill four 5l demijohns.
prob cheaper to just buy a case of bow with all offers around atm
Thats the conclusion Ive come to. I might try making something else next time.
im going to have myself a go at this - going to acquire some of those upside down water container things for some decent volume :D
Quote from: Maldonadoim going to have myself a go at this - going to acquire some of those upside down water container things for some decent volume :D
If you can find one go to an off-licence that does bring your own bottle. They get the wine in five gallon containers that are ideal for brewing. Fit the airlock to the tap with a piece of rubber tube and it will work great for volumes up to twenty litres.
Last time I did this I bought the last three bottles worth of wine in the thing and they gave me the container too. Often they will let you have one gratis though.