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Title: Vuvuzelas!
Post by: neXus on June 15, 2010, 05:10:17 AM
I HATE THEM
As many many many people across the globe seem to agree on so far in the world cup. The constant noise is annoying and, well ANNOYING.
You can not here the actual crowed you can not here the whistle properly and its clear players are having issues with it as well.

Unlike chanting and drumbs etc you get where it comes and goes or the clattering of seats etc this so far every game is just the WHOLE game, non stop.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/worldhaveyoursay/2010/06/on_air_should_the_vuvuzela_be.html

They could ban it but seems to me South Africa will only label it racist and be a lot of hassle, but its annoying.

People complained about it in the Confederations Cup. Not many people watched this as they did the world cup but you got much of the world watching world cup matches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-rKemC0QI0&feature=related

I love this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTIv06Aqu4Y

Times that by the fact the actual ones are louder and a QUITE A LOT of people have them for 90 minutes - DEAR GOD!


BAN THEM!
Title: Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Sam on June 15, 2010, 06:14:26 AM
I dunno if I am going deaf of if the stations here are drowning them out but I can hardly hear them.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: zpyder on June 15, 2010, 07:29:47 AM
Maybe not caring for football I dont really mind them. I dont get them though. Sure people are excited, but I dont get how excited people could want to make such a noise, on the basis of them doing not much more than give everyone headaches.

My real gripe are the fans not in South Africa that have them. In a football stadium you expect it to be noisy. You dont expect, or want, to be trapped in a metro train carriage with half a dozen fans blowing them.

Also, if what I have heard is true, isnt the Vuv a plastic imitation of a MEXICAN horn, and has only been in production for the last 10 years or so in SA. Its not like a long-standing tradition...
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Eggtastico on June 15, 2010, 07:45:42 AM
I like them
gives teh games atmosphere & makes you aware the world cup is somwhere new
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Quixoticish on June 15, 2010, 07:52:24 AM
I was forced to sit through the England - USA game and didnt mind them at all.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: neXus on June 15, 2010, 07:58:44 AM
Got 5.1? annoyed the hell out of me, lol.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Smugs on June 15, 2010, 19:07:36 PM
I cant stand them either. They wouldn't be so bad if they were used in shorts bursts or could carry a tune, but the constant drone that you get from them really is ruining the atmosphere of the matches for me.
Title: Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Edd on June 15, 2010, 19:12:02 PM
FIFA has dropped a massive bollock there
i bet they thought theyd get good PR for letting south africans take their vuvuzelas into matches, but now instead everyone except the south africans wants them banned and FIFA cant ban them because the south africans will whinge and FIFA will get blamed for being intolerant of minorities etc and get a bad PR! hahaha its pretty funny youve gotta admit
Title: Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Smugs on June 15, 2010, 19:41:34 PM
Agreed they are screwed either way.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: neXus on June 15, 2010, 20:37:56 PM
On the news just now......

1. They are non stop through all national anthems so far and Media has been pre-prepared/informed about it. Fifa due to the confederations cup had a lot of complaints from media, viewers and players about these things and the noise and did nothing about it.
When national anthems are being played you will here a switch in sound as they switch to another audio source so you can here them. All the horns are actually non stop all the way through them.

So: This for me is even worse, some people are going on that these are a South African tradition etc (which it is not as they have not been around that long) bla bla bla but this for me shows that there is NO respect from people in the crowed and for national anthems it is not on.

2. Some TV channels are noise cancelling the crowd the best they can through a variety of methods. Some around the globe have from the start but others are rolling out what they can to filter the crowd.
What you will or soon will here is a dumbed down crowd noise.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: BigSoy on June 15, 2010, 21:06:07 PM
F**cking colonial racists tbh.

Im gonna get me a zela :D http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/football-player/media/dave_henson_song.mp3
Title: Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Sweenster on June 15, 2010, 22:56:04 PM
It was the one thing I liked about the england match (certainly wasnt happy about the score) you occsionally could hear the crown singing and chanting and the band playing etc.

That is what team support should be, you can tell who is cheering for who. Not a blanket of noise that yes provides an atmosphere of sorts but you might as well have a pumped sound from a speaker doing the same thing.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: neXus on June 16, 2010, 03:27:24 AM
Agreed. You get more jeering and noise in football for things like penalties etc and in Rugby you have a lot more respect with silence from the crowd at the right times But in both sports they raise in volume of the crowed, those drumbs and some hooters kicking of now and again, watching the two sides of the crowed change their volume depending on who is doing well or both trying to out do each other is all part of the game.
As I said in any national anthem moment their should be dead silence.

What this world cup has is just a constant noise spam and its annoying. Watching the New Zealand game it was just terrible.

On a side note, Kiwis do not understand the yellow card for taking your shirt of rule, lol, bless them.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
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Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: matt5cott on June 16, 2010, 12:10:14 PM
Just watch more matches and you get used to it, Ive been watching 3 a day and have tuned it out, infact I start going VRRRRVVVV VV  V V V VRRRR doing the noise to annoy the missus during the quieter bits :ptu:

Everyone has a mute button, the ITV pundits are crap anyway  :puke:
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: soopahfly on June 16, 2010, 12:16:03 PM
If you press the Red button, you can swap the commentary to Moyles or 5Live.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: DEViANCE on June 16, 2010, 18:11:28 PM
it really annoys me but that hasnt stopped me buying one off ebay, going to be pissing everyone off in the pub!  :nana:
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: soopahfly on June 16, 2010, 19:17:41 PM
;) get practising
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Batch on June 16, 2010, 19:22:40 PM
Theres an app for one too. LOL
Title: Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Edd on June 16, 2010, 21:55:03 PM
the players cant hear people shouting "man on"
Title: Vuvuzelas!
Post by: knighty on June 16, 2010, 22:00:00 PM
apparently tescos have sold over 50,000 of them already !
(and that was yesterday)
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: zpyder on June 16, 2010, 22:09:27 PM
In a way its kinda good that they cant hear each other, it spices up the game a bit :D Itd make for good watching if the ball at random intervals exploded on contact.

I didnt get why they keep saying the ball is different. Its round, its full of air, why do they have to redesign it each time, how much designing is involved in a ball?
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: neXus on June 16, 2010, 22:45:18 PM
The Spanish players are blaming their shock loss to these things.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Edd on June 16, 2010, 23:07:38 PM
Quote from: neXusThe Spanish players are blaming their shock loss to these things.


Apparently the swiss coach had his players train with south africans watching and blowing their vuvuzelas, so there might be something in that



And as for Zpyders comment about the ball: On normal leather balls, the seams where the pieces of leather join give it certain aerodynamic properties. So the new Jabulani ball has no seams or stitches, its one round piece of synthetic material. So the designers have placed grooves and fake "seams" in carefully calculated positions to make it behave the way it does

So in short, normal balls behave erratically because of the way its made, and the Jabulani balls are meant to be more consistent because (I believe) its symmetrical and are designed to be

Hope that clears it up? there are articles about it on the interwebhighway
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: matt5cott on June 17, 2010, 11:57:49 AM
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Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Smugs on June 17, 2010, 20:50:06 PM
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Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: neXus on June 17, 2010, 22:48:54 PM
 :rofl:
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Mongoose on June 18, 2010, 10:41:44 AM
Linux to the rescue!

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/06/15/filter-the-vuvuzela-horn-out-of-the-world-cup-learn-jack-routing-on-linux/

no idea if it works mind, but worth a try perhaps?
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Quixoticish on June 18, 2010, 20:23:09 PM
http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.tekforum.co.uk
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: skidzilla on June 20, 2010, 14:28:48 PM
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/141/vuvuzelahat.jpg)
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Bacon on June 20, 2010, 22:33:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2LPxggvqY
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Smugs on June 20, 2010, 23:01:52 PM
 :rofl: Awesome.
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Serious on June 21, 2010, 03:29:51 AM
Quote from: Baconhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2LPxggvqY

That is incredible  :rofl:  :rofl:
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Bacon on June 22, 2010, 16:25:04 PM
And another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-xx55h9N-s
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Bacon on June 24, 2010, 13:11:52 PM
OMFG

Youtube have integrated their own Vuvuzela button into videos now too :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=170K6IcnL18

click the little football icon in the lower right
Title: Re:Vuvuzelas!
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on June 25, 2010, 09:10:09 AM
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8105/vfor.jpg)
Title: Vuvuzelas!
Post by: bear on June 30, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Hitler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN343OnMdp4