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Started by Sam, March 23, 2008, 14:22:04 PM

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neXus

It is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Sam

Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Im with Nexus, kudos for spending the time to write out some detailed suggestions.

neXus

Quote from: Sam
Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Im with Nexus, kudos for spending the time to write out some detailed suggestions.

You right on msn though Sam, Picking a boring subject to you leads to bad project or lack of effort and you will not get stuck into
What topics would interest you though Sam? just stick them down and I think people can give you some ideas

Serious

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adlol seems to me all you need to be in uni in the states is some php and mysql knowledge to make a website that just queries a big ol database.

Hard work indeed.... now I see why you left the working world to persue a more academic route.

You dont actually know what the requirements are though do you. I dont recall the words PHP or MySQL previously being mentioned.

Its a safe bet though.

Well youre wrong. The projects can be on anything, you just submit them and they will approve or not. No stipulations at all.

So write a competitive on line version of pong so people can compete or some other game. You can then set up leagues and stuff if it isnt complex enough for you.

M3ta7h3ad

Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Feel free to read posts other than those that directly quote yours at any time. Think I came up with the one suggestion that doesnt re-invent the wheel, that is of a sufficient difficulty for a final year BSc project, and has enough scope for future work that it would lead to an interesting viva come examination time.

Yours... flickr by any other name.

Of course, throw up the nexus bashing card anytime someone has a valid point against you, it wont be too long before everyone is wise to it.  :drama: :drama:

Serious

Quote from: M3ta7h3ad
Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Feel free to read posts other than those that directly quote yours at any time. Think I came up with the one suggestion that doesnt re-invent the wheel, that is of a sufficient difficulty for a final year BSc project, and has enough scope for future work that it would lead to an interesting viva come examination time.

Yours... flickr by any other name.

Of course, throw up the nexus bashing card anytime someone has a valid point against you, it wont be too long before everyone is wise to it.  :drama: :drama:

Mate you do it a little too often. Back off a bit and chill out. Drop some ice down your Y-fronts if you cant think of anything else to do.

M3ta7h3ad

Just to clarify your entire suggestion that I had a problem with was just "AJAXifing" flickr more than it is already. Flickr already has an API... you could of suggested going that route, but no. You wrote from the point of a web designer whos interested in pretty things.

You raise a valid point however. How about Sam puts some of his own thoughts into it and comes out with something other than "it doesnt interest me". If hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

M3ta7h3ad

Quote from: Serious
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad
Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Feel free to read posts other than those that directly quote yours at any time. Think I came up with the one suggestion that doesnt re-invent the wheel, that is of a sufficient difficulty for a final year BSc project, and has enough scope for future work that it would lead to an interesting viva come examination time.

Yours... flickr by any other name.

Of course, throw up the nexus bashing card anytime someone has a valid point against you, it wont be too long before everyone is wise to it.  :drama: :drama:

Mate you do it a little too often. Back off a bit and chill out. Drop some ice down your Y-fronts if you cant think of anything else to do.

 :drama:  :puke:

Sam

Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Maybe youre right. Ive been developing software since before you were born and Im probably bored of it now.

neXus

QuoteFeel free to read posts other than those that directly quote yours at any time. Think I came up with the one suggestion that doesnt re-invent the wheel, that is of a sufficient difficulty for a final year BSc project, and has enough scope for future work that it would lead to an interesting viva come examination time.
He is asking for ideas from EVERYONE, not just you and for you to say "use mine not anyone elses" and then insult other people for making suggestions Sam may like or like aspects or concepts of which is the point of the thread, acting like your in primary school is just stupid, grow up.

Yours... flickr by any other name.
Far from it and not the only suggestion and besides does it matter the semantic aspect and other elements would differ as well as the functional use of it from flickr but its not about that you have twisted a thread into about you and having a pointless stab at me again.

QuoteOf course, throw up the nexus bashing card anytime someone has a valid point against you, it wont be too long before everyone is wise to it.
It is indeed the case you are very much being a child here dude, pointless and you did not just make a point, you did then I pointed out that the chain of thinking from that site was different, an image site but not the same I could go into about the web and sites and doing better and improving from the structure upwards even if similar to others as important as originality but that was not needed.
You then went to the silly comments in your latter points
comment still stands dude, you turned a thread helping something to about you and having ago at me not me YOU! did this and you and a few others do this far to often

neXus

Quote from: M3ta7h3adJust to clarify your entire suggestion that I had a problem with was just "AJAXifing" flickr more than it is already. Flickr already has an API... you could of suggested going that route, but no. You wrote from the point of a web designer whos interested in pretty things.

You raise a valid point however. How about Sam puts some of his own thoughts into it and comes out with something other than "it doesnt interest me". If hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Again not what the suggestion was you did not understand behind it with in fact people working on things long those lines and the aspects and elements of semantic sites starting to take off an more you miss interpreted a suggestion but not only that.
You also seem to have total knowledge of me and that my degree and initial developing coding I am secondly a designer I learn this myself on my own and a coder foremost but it is totally not about that at all, It was a SUGGESTION with elements he could use or not in regard to the site structure and the code to function
Ajax is NOT just about looking nice and to assume or think that is wrong, as with the use of the server coding be it java or php and xml to not just produce pritty things but actual functional and powerful things with the suggestion I had underpinning that and the concepts from the first suggestion being able to be used to produce a different site to that of flickr

But you did not ask to explain the suggestion or expand on what the person meant as an adult, like me who would have gone "is that not like xx? what do you mean?" you decided to do the same as you normally do, act like a child and spoil a thread with people just trying to help Sam out, again making it about you and nexus bashing and you cant say otherwise becuase it is clear to everyone

neXus

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Maybe youre right. Ive been developing software since before you were born and Im probably bored of it now.

I think it is not that Sam, I think you just need to expand the way you do it in what you do which would mean doing things you would not expect to be doing. Saying not to offend but you do boring stuff and code for boring things and I think in terms of the project if you did something a bit different and "whacky" in the sense of what you normally do you may find it refreshing

web2.0 is not just about making sites look a new level of nice but the way they are made and function as well, like the example of the armoury I gave for example

Go well off the ball and think about the iphone, think of some business software to develop on it and have an associated function site

Create a very powerful site in the time for the project but maybe have some fun and learning with the css and style a bit more as well?

neXus

I mean look at this cms for example:
http://www.cmsfromscratch.com/demo-videos.php
Really cool built on ajax and xml not using a database but still very powerful and nice too
Unlike another poster on here you do not have to think of a new concept for something which is actually hard to do, I mean if you pitched facebook to a certain person on here he would blow his top from the sounds of things "Oi that is myspace, noob, [insert insults]" etc but it introduces new core concepts to something and produced the facebook coding system

I mean I think you could sit down think of just a generic site for your project in terms of a wiki based site but redevelop it if you had some core concepts that would improve on it

I mean you could just create another shop for example but if you comment in terms of a project on what is good and about them (ticket support systems for example) and come up with better solutions in concept and code implementation you get great kudos for that.

Does not have to be a totally new concept

- EDIT

Here is one, pitch a concept of a campus issues iphones to the lecturers and staff with an Intranet site associated with them and an application or a few etc for function use in the campus from paging, internal localised chat system for them or paging system, notices, messages, campus map for staff with room location, calender, scheduling and all that

M3ta7h3ad

Quote from: Sam
Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Maybe youre right. Ive been developing software since before you were born and Im probably bored of it now.

You miss my point.

Should you really be persuing a degree this late on in your life if you are unable to think of new concepts to come up with.

Granted youre a developer, well done... doesnt mean youre suited for university. While you can quite happily sit in a cubicle all day as a developer, in university you require some creative thoughts.

Nexus: Ive not bashed you at all mate. I just said your idea was flickr by any other name, shoving buzzwords like web 3.0, the data driven web, the semantic web doesnt make it unlike flickr at all. Its just reinventing the wheel. Campus maps... thats about A level computing standard, possibly GCSE. Sure itd get him some marks but in my uni itll get laughed at.

Give you a clue what got the top marks in my year.

- Legal case management system using oracle as a back end to a java front end, involved something about remote sites too not sure what, I do know the guy wrote a report topping 500+ pages.

- A programming language derived solely from UML... not just methods, classes, but the actual code within them derived from the various models found within the UML 2.0 spec. A completely graphical programming language.

If all sam wants to do is make a website and get decent marks then hes going to have to push it to something thats "difficult" if it was piss everyone would do it.

Mine: A music suggestion system. It would learn your favourite tracks, suggest others and base it on more than just "oh you like this artist...". It was a direct comparison to last.fm/audioscrobbler which uses metadata and hashes obtained from the music. I ended up with a 2.2... deservedly so, my project was piss.

My back up idea which is what I should have pushed for was utilising mobile devices to process distributed work units. Much like "seti@home" or "condor" but would utilise mobile devices found on the university campus, effectively turning it into a big super computer :) I was going to work on the tech needed to get the work unit to the handset via bluetooth or other means.

Dave

Quote from: M3ta7h3adGive you a clue what got the top marks in my year.

- Legal case management system using oracle as a back end to a java front end, involved something about remote sites too not sure what, I do know the guy wrote a report topping 500+ pages.

- A programming language derived solely from UML... not just methods, classes, but the actual code within them derived from the various models found within the UML 2.0 spec. A completely graphical programming language.

thats a joke though... 500 pages for an undergrad dissertation is going a bit OTT and a waste of time not just for the student but also for the supervisor - IIRC in the preface of one of my AI books an MIT professor states that he tells his students he wont read more than 100 pages of a dissertation in an effort to make them get to the point.

You dont have to really be creative in a BSc course - youre not meant to be adding anything to the body of knowledge about a particular subject - youre meant to simply be learning/reading and then producing coursework that demonstrates you understand/can apply what youve learned.

If you want to be creative come up with new ideas/concepts then thats what an MPhil/PhD is for.

IMO any of the suggestions added on here are equally valid for Sam to pursue - so what if something similar has been done before - hes not starting a new business or performing ground breaking research therefore the only criteria should be something he is simply interested in.