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I need to write a website for a project at university.
Anyone got any ideas? I dont want to do something boring thats been done 100 times before.
It doesnt matter how viable it is financially as is just for credit here.

a forum for techie types?  :mutley:

actually if you wanted to be lazy you could make a new tekforums under a new name - use your sam BB software and ask all tekforums users to migrate over there for a month while your assignment gets marked - probably get bonus marks for your own proprietary BB software

I got a fantastic idea one, but its commercial & no way im telling about it on an open forum :P

AFAIK theres no other website that offers the service either.

i dont know if it allready exsists but ive always thought a music version of imdb would be good.

Quote from: DEViANCEi dont know if it allready exsists but ive always thought a music version of imdb would be good.

Nige and i have brought this up a few times, but we always get shot down in flames.

Quote from: DEViANCEi dont know if it allready exsists but ive always thought a music version of imdb would be good.

Nige and i have brought this up a few times, but we always get shot down in flames.

Quote from: Davea forum for techie types?  :mutley:

actually if you wanted to be lazy you could make a new tekforums under a new name - use your sam BB software and ask all tekforums users to migrate over there for a month while your assignment gets marked - probably get bonus marks for your own proprietary BB software

Forum software been done a million times tho

Theres hardly anything thats not been done before now though. Id imagine SamBB would be a lot more complex than the projects others on your course would churn out.

How about further customising it so that it caters to a specific audience. Like an educational BB which has features for group work collaboration (mini private boards?) and anti plagiarism type controls in it?

these things are suppoesdly in the Virtual learning Environments being rolled out in unis, the discussion board is there on Bournemouths version, but it isnt used as it seems like a backwards, out of date system. Im guessing most students are familiar with this format of BB though and so its got more potential of being used?

How about a random fact of the day kind of thing, which looks for stubs or paragraphs on wikipedia. Visitors can vote for how interesting the facts are, and the system could learn from the ratings what kind of things to pull from wikipedia for future visits?

That kind of AI programming would be tricky though maybe?

Hmmm anti plagiarization software might be cool, Ill see how advanced current versions are.

lol... been and done. Did it for my group project.

Would take Java, plain text, and C++ (with extendible modules to suit other languages) via email or uploaded in zips, rars, single files.

Check them against a base file, and return matches.

And current commercial versions out there are extremely advanced. Take a look around and youll see what I mean. Ours sounded grandiose, but the current stuff out there knocked it flat on its arse.

Youre right.

Its a good thing if you can crack it, but we spent ages just getting our heads around the mathematics of K-Grams and stuff. :s its a minefield out there.

how many credits is this for? is it actually just a website project or are you having to design some inventive online app or something?

If this is 1st year and only a short module then surely theyre just after a website and any apps etc.. would be a bonus - if so for an easier life Id simple dust the cobwebs off sambb- maybe add some original/rare or functionality you believe forums should contain and then submit that - would save you a feck load of time to concentrate on other modules.  Its not a final year dissertation so I doubt they care too much about originality more just wanting you to show you can go through the motions and actually produce something.

If this is a major project then perhaps gear it towards some area you want to work in in future...

This would be for a final year project.

The plagiarism thing was just a suggestion of what you could do with SamBB. Another option if existing tech is advanced would be to see about finding a way to incorporate existing anti-plagiarism tools into SamBB, rather than create your own. Maybe youd get browny points for following the web 2.0 route?

Im sure there are loads of other tools you could build into SamBB. Not only do you have a fully functioning script/website already, but youve got the knowledge of how it was all put together to allow you to spend time making extras for it when others would be struggling to build a site.

Other things off the top of my head...advanced user statistics. Im not talking post counts here, Im talking Multivariate analysis of variance between groups etc. Not sure what it could be used for but you never know. That kind of stats package could be pretty useful on a successful consumer review type of message board. The forum could automatically profile its users based on the kind of content in their posts, once profiled it could perform some stats analysis to drive either targetted advertising at the users or be used in market research?

The fact that samBB is a script, means that the whole package would be marketable, unlike a standalone website that was built for a single/client use, which could be copied, but not as easily?

Lets forget about SamBB.

Final year project that has to be a website... hmm, bit difficult to choose one that hasnt been done before, the web arena is a bit saturated nowerdays.

You could do something that has been done but not quite in a way that its been done.

Online OS.

Code up a web based OS, so the core functions allow the integration of "modules" that can be coded by a 3rd party. You have an OS... but oh you want a word processor... install this... make a packaging technology for the OS, and voomph theres office.

You want some games... run this WEXE (web executable??) and voompf...youve got games.

Allows people to install programs on their web based OS with ease. Not just served witha default offering.

Soo your project would consist of.

An operating system.
A packaging method for various applications (example: RPM/MSI...)
The ability for code to be "installed" on a user by user basis.

You can talk for further info on security, the storage of data, how applications will integrate, the saving of state, having it bootable over a network??? huge area to go into.

An example of current offerings have a google for ghost. its a pretty damn fixed thing but what youre bringing to the table is the ability to install and uninstall any applications to that web based OS on the fly.

lottery results predictors, get your lecturer to win the lottery and then youll get all the credit you want I predict.

Good idea but doesnt interest me.  

how about some altruistic bollocks then - normally goes down well at unis etc..

online resorce for blind kids....

basic front end that allows them to use arrow keys to move over a menu (words read out for each menu option (mail, wordprocessor etc..))

basic mail system will allow them to scan over a list of mails (reading out "mail from joe blogs at blogs .com" etc..) then select a mail to be read... at any point a menu option sould allow them to find out where they are... could type a mail where each keystroke is read out etc...

word processor could be compatible with a brail keyboard etc...

just an idea anyway

imdb for music....

because youve mentiond it plenty of times before in the past so you probably have half a dozen ideas for it already ;)

how complex does it have to be ?   guess the website and database are pretty simple really... ?

Quote from: knightyimdb for music....

because youve mentiond it plenty of times before in the past so you probably have half a dozen ideas for it already ;)

how complex does it have to be ?   guess the website and database are pretty simple really... ?

IMDB for music  = Last.fm.

Sam if you are this indecisive, just take one of the projects the lecturers are offering.

What would be interesting is a video sharing site but not youtube
Create a java video site for high quality video like stage 6 but what your difference/motivation and goal would be to create an underpinning system which will attempt to detect videos through titles, comments as well as other means to avoid copyright material being uploaded as most if not all currently out there can not handle this very well

I just woke up so I will have 100 and 10 ideas in a bit

Sam what else then music interests you?

Ahh there is another, not seen a true imb site for sport in a decent manner

-Go to it enter tigers, get all info on a team and players, make it wiki based so this can be easily kept up to date, photos and media and clips be an important aspect of it with a layout like that of old sports cards of player profiles etc
- Do something in regard to semantic websites

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Quote from: knightyimdb for music....

because youve mentiond it plenty of times before in the past so you probably have half a dozen ideas for it already ;)

how complex does it have to be ?   guess the website and database are pretty simple really... ?

IMDB for music  = Last.fm.

Sam if you are this indecisive, just take one of the projects the lecturers are offering.

What projects? This isnt the UK, you have to actually work at uni in the states (although of course neither compare to a proper job).

Quote from: neXusWhat would be interesting is a video sharing site but not youtube
Create a java video site for high quality video like stage 6 but what your difference/motivation and goal would be to create an underpinning system which will attempt to detect videos through titles, comments as well as other means to avoid copyright material being uploaded as most if not all currently out there can not handle this very well

I just woke up so I will have 100 and 10 ideas in a bit

Sam what else then music interests you?

Ahh there is another, not seen a true imb site for sport in a decent manner

-Go to it enter tigers, get all info on a team and players, make it wiki based so this can be easily kept up to date, photos and media and clips be an important aspect of it with a layout like that of old sports cards of player profiles etc
- Do something in regard to semantic websites

A sport IMDB is interesting but does anyone really care ?

a search engine that excludes shops.

Nothing worse than searching for somthing & all the top slots are taken by kelkoo, etc.

Quote from: SamA sport IMDB is interesting but does anyone really care ?

2 words

americans + stats

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Quote from: SamA sport IMDB is interesting but does anyone really care ?

2 words

americans + stats

Thats a good point lol

A website that can emulate another website but alter the code. EG, something that can change the CSS in a frame. Could build on Daves altruistic idea. Could make it so the browser auto reads words out. Ok, so others do that. But also provide options for dynamically changing the website?

Online stock control system for an equipment store? the ConSci store room at uni here is in desperate need of something that can keep track of whats in stock and whats out and by who and for how long etc.

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Quote from: SamA sport IMDB is interesting but does anyone really care ?

2 words

americans + stats

Thats a good point lol

Americans love them and the only real places you have for these are from tv sites or wikipedia, both are not great.. the TV ones tend to be just a horrible interface a mass of colour clashes etc and The systems they use not really robust enough

It actually would be more challenging then it seems, in the documentation and gaols of the project and the fact your in the US it would appeal to you peers

- Create a sports stat/information style like IMDB containing profiles of sports personalities and locations and events blablabla
Write that there is no true site for this for all sports, a lot of it is scattered or for individual sports all done in a variety of ways scattered all over the place
Write that most information and stats come from the TV channel websites who air the sports or news sites and none are presented very well or seem to function very well
etc

- Your goal would be to create an IMDB style site for all sport to unify this and have a a better presentation and more hardcore system to run it
You would add why your concept would be different and better I would have things in this area like...

- Presentation would be better, it is a challenge to present all the data on a player and stadium or event and so to do this well would be a challenge - You got some very good folk in css and design that can help with that
One of the presentation aspects would be that for each sport the layout would be identical but the theme of the site would change for each sport type and if you did the design say you had a fancy image at the top for each sport, representing the sport or a news slider for each this would all be in the same place but look different. Links may change in relevence to the sport but the layout be the same and a stats page of a person would be the same but under the theme of the sport

- wiki
To be up to date you need it to really be a wiki based site, moderated of course but it would defiantly need to be wiki based

- semantic site
Now bare with me on this sam as I do not know if you read about these and will use an example from a MMO (online game)
World of warcraft has lots of stats , its a massive online game with 10 million players with quests, item (loot) and stats gallore.
Not to long ago blizzard create the WOW armoury http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner%27zhul&n=Ethen
Has information on players, guilds, items etc all pulled from games database
It uses ajax, xml and based on the MVC architecture of java and I think it is oracle database they use

This is a nice site, well presented but what it offers is an xml for all sorts of information from an item to a player to a guild which you can use. A guild (group of players - clan) can use this site to grab the xml files and use them for what ever they want.
Some have gone further and many do not like all the fancyness of the armour and so made this http://armorylite.com/
Basically the same thing but uses the armourys output to produce a light version

A sports stat info site would produce an xml output for a player for example, It would not have the image of course and image protection to stop over leaching but the xml could be used as a semantic element for the site and be used by others if they wanted to create something or just used in the actual site itself in a number of ways.

- Future expansions of the site
It is always a good idea to just write about how the site would go further to show your system could do it or what could be done with it..
For yours ticket purchasing or merchandise  (store) could be incorporated into the site
Up to date tv scheduals could also be added



Few more things you can add to bolster the concept I am sure will crop up in your head or mine

Thanks for the detailed ideas but sports stats doesnt really interest me.

Quote from: SamThanks for the detailed ideas but sports stats doesnt really interest me.

At least you know what to put for anything you pitch though in terms of the elements they would be looking for as well as the thing itself and the code etc

Photo site:
Have people famous or not, locations, events etc take the concepts of the sports site in this regard
Community style site where people upload images but when they do fill out information about what the image is and well as a tagging system for uploaded photos like on facebook.

The site would be an image uploader you could like to like imageshack but only as a means to an end so would server two functions
the site would have examples or one person or event reletive to date or something on main page but the search ability would be the main feature.
People could search "David Beckham" or "houses of parliament" and a page would load with that person, location or event and have a wall of images associated about that place presented in some cool way with ajax and then have a tag element with relationships to other things or images. An image of David Beckham outside the houses would then be able to link to his page
Image thumbnail to ajax pop up with information about image, facebook tagging feature so users could tag a name or a face on those images and a page could then be generated about that person automatically if say 5 photos are tagged with a place or name of a person or event and a page made holding links to those tagged photos thus then allowing new ones to be added for that person or event
Possible small breif wiki description of the person or place as an intro to the page but mainly all about the pictures

A music singer has a picture page 20 of them are from his new concert in the O2 stadium, they would be displayed on the O2 stadium page when uploaded as well has his page as well as the event page (the concert) and if as mentioned already something does not exist just from the system knowing that say 10 images of something has been added and it not having a page automatically creating a new page for that thing

Depending on how long that takes and expands either do or just write about expansions through special sorting methods of sites, trying to arrange them in orders, inside outside of a building for example etc.

Filters, ability to ban sites hotlinking to remove porn etc of course in place in the system

Quote from: SamThis isnt the UK, you have to actually work at uni in the states (although of course neither compare to a proper job).

omg youve been over there too long  :panic:

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Quote from: SamThis isnt the UK, you have to actually work at uni in the states (although of course neither compare to a proper job).

omg youve been over there too long  :panic:

He will tell you to have a nice day instead of saying bye next time you meet, lol

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Quote from: knightyimdb for music....

because youve mentiond it plenty of times before in the past so you probably have half a dozen ideas for it already ;)

how complex does it have to be ?   guess the website and database are pretty simple really... ?

IMDB for music  = Last.fm.

Sam if you are this indecisive, just take one of the projects the lecturers are offering.

What projects? This isnt the UK, you have to actually work at uni in the states (although of course neither compare to a proper job).

lol seems to me all you need to be in uni in the states is some php and mysql knowledge to make a website that just queries a big ol database.

Hard work indeed.... now I see why you left the working world to persue a more academic route.

Quote from: neXusPhoto site:
Have people famous or not, locations, events etc take the concepts of the sports site in this regard
Community style site where people upload images but when they do fill out information about what the image is and well as a tagging system for uploaded photos like on facebook.

The site would be an image uploader you could like to like imageshack but only as a means to an end so would server two functions
the site would have examples or one person or event reletive to date or something on main page but the search ability would be the main feature.
People could search "David Beckham" or "houses of parliament" and a page would load with that person, location or event and have a wall of images associated about that place presented in some cool way with ajax and then have a tag element with relationships to other things or images. An image of David Beckham outside the houses would then be able to link to his page
Image thumbnail to ajax pop up with information about image, facebook tagging feature so users could tag a name or a face on those images and a page could then be generated about that person automatically if say 5 photos are tagged with a place or name of a person or event and a page made holding links to those tagged photos thus then allowing new ones to be added for that person or event
Possible small breif wiki description of the person or place as an intro to the page but mainly all about the pictures

A music singer has a picture page 20 of them are from his new concert in the O2 stadium, they would be displayed on the O2 stadium page when uploaded as well has his page as well as the event page (the concert) and if as mentioned already something does not exist just from the system knowing that say 10 images of something has been added and it not having a page automatically creating a new page for that thing

Depending on how long that takes and expands either do or just write about expansions through special sorting methods of sites, trying to arrange them in orders, inside outside of a building for example etc.

Filters, ability to ban sites hotlinking to remove porn etc of course in place in the system

Have you visited flickr lately?

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Quote from: SamThis isnt the UK, you have to actually work at uni in the states (although of course neither compare to a proper job).

omg youve been over there too long  :panic:

He will tell you to have a nice day instead of saying bye next time you meet, lol

No one says that really.
Its "how you doing"
and
"have a good one"

Quote from: M3ta7h3adlol seems to me all you need to be in uni in the states is some php and mysql knowledge to make a website that just queries a big ol database.

Hard work indeed.... now I see why you left the working world to persue a more academic route.

You dont actually know what the requirements are though do you. I dont recall the words PHP or MySQL previously being mentioned.

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Quote from: neXusPhoto site:
Have people famous or not, locations, events etc take the concepts of the sports site in this regard
Community style site where people upload images but when they do fill out information about what the image is and well as a tagging system for uploaded photos like on facebook.

The site would be an image uploader you could like to like imageshack but only as a means to an end so would server two functions
the site would have examples or one person or event reletive to date or something on main page but the search ability would be the main feature.
People could search "David Beckham" or "houses of parliament" and a page would load with that person, location or event and have a wall of images associated about that place presented in some cool way with ajax and then have a tag element with relationships to other things or images. An image of David Beckham outside the houses would then be able to link to his page
Image thumbnail to ajax pop up with information about image, facebook tagging feature so users could tag a name or a face on those images and a page could then be generated about that person automatically if say 5 photos are tagged with a place or name of a person or event and a page made holding links to those tagged photos thus then allowing new ones to be added for that person or event
Possible small breif wiki description of the person or place as an intro to the page but mainly all about the pictures

A music singer has a picture page 20 of them are from his new concert in the O2 stadium, they would be displayed on the O2 stadium page when uploaded as well has his page as well as the event page (the concert) and if as mentioned already something does not exist just from the system knowing that say 10 images of something has been added and it not having a page automatically creating a new page for that thing

Depending on how long that takes and expands either do or just write about expansions through special sorting methods of sites, trying to arrange them in orders, inside outside of a building for example etc.

Filters, ability to ban sites hotlinking to remove porn etc of course in place in the system

Have you visited flickr lately?

Not quite what i meant as there are a number of such sites no comments, no just list - wall of photos and control and inter associations with the images more so then sch sites like flickr and use of the semantic site concept and then progress to what we have seen with auto alignment of images on the page etc.

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Quote from: SamA sport IMDB is interesting but does anyone really care ?

2 words

americans + stats

Thats a good point lol

Americans go nuts over football stats (thats yankee footie) and baseball ones. Trouble is its probably been done time and time again, same as most other things.

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adlol seems to me all you need to be in uni in the states is some php and mysql knowledge to make a website that just queries a big ol database.

Hard work indeed.... now I see why you left the working world to persue a more academic route.

You dont actually know what the requirements are though do you. I dont recall the words PHP or MySQL previously being mentioned.

Its a safe bet though.

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adlol seems to me all you need to be in uni in the states is some php and mysql knowledge to make a website that just queries a big ol database.

Hard work indeed.... now I see why you left the working world to persue a more academic route.

You dont actually know what the requirements are though do you. I dont recall the words PHP or MySQL previously being mentioned.

Its a safe bet though.

Well youre wrong. The projects can be on anything, you just submit them and they will approve or not. No stipulations at all.

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Quote from: neXusPhoto site:
Have people famous or not, locations, events etc take the concepts of the sports site in this regard
Community style site where people upload images but when they do fill out information about what the image is and well as a tagging system for uploaded photos like on facebook.

The site would be an image uploader you could like to like imageshack but only as a means to an end so would server two functions
the site would have examples or one person or event reletive to date or something on main page but the search ability would be the main feature.
People could search "David Beckham" or "houses of parliament" and a page would load with that person, location or event and have a wall of images associated about that place presented in some cool way with ajax and then have a tag element with relationships to other things or images. An image of David Beckham outside the houses would then be able to link to his page
Image thumbnail to ajax pop up with information about image, facebook tagging feature so users could tag a name or a face on those images and a page could then be generated about that person automatically if say 5 photos are tagged with a place or name of a person or event and a page made holding links to those tagged photos thus then allowing new ones to be added for that person or event
Possible small breif wiki description of the person or place as an intro to the page but mainly all about the pictures

A music singer has a picture page 20 of them are from his new concert in the O2 stadium, they would be displayed on the O2 stadium page when uploaded as well has his page as well as the event page (the concert) and if as mentioned already something does not exist just from the system knowing that say 10 images of something has been added and it not having a page automatically creating a new page for that thing

Depending on how long that takes and expands either do or just write about expansions through special sorting methods of sites, trying to arrange them in orders, inside outside of a building for example etc.

Filters, ability to ban sites hotlinking to remove porn etc of course in place in the system

Have you visited flickr lately?

Not quite what i meant as there are a number of such sites no comments, no just list - wall of photos and control and inter associations with the images more so then sch sites like flickr and use of the semantic site concept and then progress to what we have seen with auto alignment of images on the page etc.

OMG! PEOPLE IVE INVENTED THE MOTION DEVICE!... oh wait... it just does the same thing that that thing does... whats it called? Oh... the wheel.

It is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Im with Nexus, kudos for spending the time to write out some detailed suggestions.

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Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Im with Nexus, kudos for spending the time to write out some detailed suggestions.

You right on msn though Sam, Picking a boring subject to you leads to bad project or lack of effort and you will not get stuck into
What topics would interest you though Sam? just stick them down and I think people can give you some ideas

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adlol seems to me all you need to be in uni in the states is some php and mysql knowledge to make a website that just queries a big ol database.

Hard work indeed.... now I see why you left the working world to persue a more academic route.

You dont actually know what the requirements are though do you. I dont recall the words PHP or MySQL previously being mentioned.

Its a safe bet though.

Well youre wrong. The projects can be on anything, you just submit them and they will approve or not. No stipulations at all.

So write a competitive on line version of pong so people can compete or some other game. You can then set up leagues and stuff if it isnt complex enough for you.

Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Feel free to read posts other than those that directly quote yours at any time. Think I came up with the one suggestion that doesnt re-invent the wheel, that is of a sufficient difficulty for a final year BSc project, and has enough scope for future work that it would lead to an interesting viva come examination time.

Yours... flickr by any other name.

Of course, throw up the nexus bashing card anytime someone has a valid point against you, it wont be too long before everyone is wise to it.  :drama: :drama:

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Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
 :drama:  :drama:
Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Feel free to read posts other than those that directly quote yours at any time. Think I came up with the one suggestion that doesnt re-invent the wheel, that is of a sufficient difficulty for a final year BSc project, and has enough scope for future work that it would lead to an interesting viva come examination time.

Yours... flickr by any other name.

Of course, throw up the nexus bashing card anytime someone has a valid point against you, it wont be too long before everyone is wise to it.  :drama: :drama:

Mate you do it a little too often. Back off a bit and chill out. Drop some ice down your Y-fronts if you cant think of anything else to do.

Just to clarify your entire suggestion that I had a problem with was just "AJAXifing" flickr more than it is already. Flickr already has an API... you could of suggested going that route, but no. You wrote from the point of a web designer whos interested in pretty things.

You raise a valid point however. How about Sam puts some of his own thoughts into it and comes out with something other than "it doesnt interest me". If hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

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Quote from: neXusIt is interesting how helping Sam just put some suggestions down for sites has turned into someone nexus bashing just putting some ideas down for Sam. Rather amusing and sorry dude but rather sad on your part and rather pointless making those stupid comments.
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Its a uni project looking for ideas and I just gave a couple of nice ones in regard to what he is after that would have some back end elements for a site design and creation and good as a project not a live site ^^ The code and the writing about and the concept is what matters.
But you can feel free to be an idiot while the rest of us just post some thoughts down to help Sam out

Feel free to read posts other than those that directly quote yours at any time. Think I came up with the one suggestion that doesnt re-invent the wheel, that is of a sufficient difficulty for a final year BSc project, and has enough scope for future work that it would lead to an interesting viva come examination time.

Yours... flickr by any other name.

Of course, throw up the nexus bashing card anytime someone has a valid point against you, it wont be too long before everyone is wise to it.  :drama: :drama:

Mate you do it a little too often. Back off a bit and chill out. Drop some ice down your Y-fronts if you cant think of anything else to do.

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Maybe youre right. Ive been developing software since before you were born and Im probably bored of it now.

QuoteFeel free to read posts other than those that directly quote yours at any time. Think I came up with the one suggestion that doesnt re-invent the wheel, that is of a sufficient difficulty for a final year BSc project, and has enough scope for future work that it would lead to an interesting viva come examination time.

He is asking for ideas from EVERYONE, not just you and for you to say "use mine not anyone elses" and then insult other people for making suggestions Sam may like or like aspects or concepts of which is the point of the thread, acting like your in primary school is just stupid, grow up.

Yours... flickr by any other name.
Far from it and not the only suggestion and besides does it matter the semantic aspect and other elements would differ as well as the functional use of it from flickr but its not about that you have twisted a thread into about you and having a pointless stab at me again.

QuoteOf course, throw up the nexus bashing card anytime someone has a valid point against you, it wont be too long before everyone is wise to it.

It is indeed the case you are very much being a child here dude, pointless and you did not just make a point, you did then I pointed out that the chain of thinking from that site was different, an image site but not the same I could go into about the web and sites and doing better and improving from the structure upwards even if similar to others as important as originality but that was not needed.
You then went to the silly comments in your latter points
comment still stands dude, you turned a thread helping something to about you and having ago at me not me YOU! did this and you and a few others do this far to often

Quote from: M3ta7h3adJust to clarify your entire suggestion that I had a problem with was just "AJAXifing" flickr more than it is already. Flickr already has an API... you could of suggested going that route, but no. You wrote from the point of a web designer whos interested in pretty things.

You raise a valid point however. How about Sam puts some of his own thoughts into it and comes out with something other than "it doesnt interest me". If hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Again not what the suggestion was you did not understand behind it with in fact people working on things long those lines and the aspects and elements of semantic sites starting to take off an more you miss interpreted a suggestion but not only that.
You also seem to have total knowledge of me and that my degree and initial developing coding I am secondly a designer I learn this myself on my own and a coder foremost but it is totally not about that at all, It was a SUGGESTION with elements he could use or not in regard to the site structure and the code to function
Ajax is NOT just about looking nice and to assume or think that is wrong, as with the use of the server coding be it java or php and xml to not just produce pritty things but actual functional and powerful things with the suggestion I had underpinning that and the concepts from the first suggestion being able to be used to produce a different site to that of flickr

But you did not ask to explain the suggestion or expand on what the person meant as an adult, like me who would have gone "is that not like xx? what do you mean?" you decided to do the same as you normally do, act like a child and spoil a thread with people just trying to help Sam out, again making it about you and nexus bashing and you cant say otherwise becuase it is clear to everyone

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Maybe youre right. Ive been developing software since before you were born and Im probably bored of it now.

I think it is not that Sam, I think you just need to expand the way you do it in what you do which would mean doing things you would not expect to be doing. Saying not to offend but you do boring stuff and code for boring things and I think in terms of the project if you did something a bit different and "whacky" in the sense of what you normally do you may find it refreshing

web2.0 is not just about making sites look a new level of nice but the way they are made and function as well, like the example of the armoury I gave for example

Go well off the ball and think about the iphone, think of some business software to develop on it and have an associated function site

Create a very powerful site in the time for the project but maybe have some fun and learning with the css and style a bit more as well?

I mean look at this cms for example:
http://www.cmsfromscratch.com/demo-videos.php
Really cool built on ajax and xml not using a database but still very powerful and nice too
Unlike another poster on here you do not have to think of a new concept for something which is actually hard to do, I mean if you pitched facebook to a certain person on here he would blow his top from the sounds of things "Oi that is myspace, noob, [insert insults]" etc but it introduces new core concepts to something and produced the facebook coding system

I mean I think you could sit down think of just a generic site for your project in terms of a wiki based site but redevelop it if you had some core concepts that would improve on it

I mean you could just create another shop for example but if you comment in terms of a project on what is good and about them (ticket support systems for example) and come up with better solutions in concept and code implementation you get great kudos for that.

Does not have to be a totally new concept

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Here is one, pitch a concept of a campus issues iphones to the lecturers and staff with an Intranet site associated with them and an application or a few etc for function use in the campus from paging, internal localised chat system for them or paging system, notices, messages, campus map for staff with room location, calender, scheduling and all that

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Maybe youre right. Ive been developing software since before you were born and Im probably bored of it now.

You miss my point.

Should you really be persuing a degree this late on in your life if you are unable to think of new concepts to come up with.

Granted youre a developer, well done... doesnt mean youre suited for university. While you can quite happily sit in a cubicle all day as a developer, in university you require some creative thoughts.

Nexus: Ive not bashed you at all mate. I just said your idea was flickr by any other name, shoving buzzwords like web 3.0, the data driven web, the semantic web doesnt make it unlike flickr at all. Its just reinventing the wheel. Campus maps... thats about A level computing standard, possibly GCSE. Sure itd get him some marks but in my uni itll get laughed at.

Give you a clue what got the top marks in my year.

- Legal case management system using oracle as a back end to a java front end, involved something about remote sites too not sure what, I do know the guy wrote a report topping 500+ pages.

- A programming language derived solely from UML... not just methods, classes, but the actual code within them derived from the various models found within the UML 2.0 spec. A completely graphical programming language.

If all sam wants to do is make a website and get decent marks then hes going to have to push it to something thats "difficult" if it was piss everyone would do it.

Mine: A music suggestion system. It would learn your favourite tracks, suggest others and base it on more than just "oh you like this artist...". It was a direct comparison to last.fm/audioscrobbler which uses metadata and hashes obtained from the music. I ended up with a 2.2... deservedly so, my project was piss.

My back up idea which is what I should have pushed for was utilising mobile devices to process distributed work units. Much like "seti@home" or "condor" but would utilise mobile devices found on the university campus, effectively turning it into a big super computer :) I was going to work on the tech needed to get the work unit to the handset via bluetooth or other means.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adGive you a clue what got the top marks in my year.

- Legal case management system using oracle as a back end to a java front end, involved something about remote sites too not sure what, I do know the guy wrote a report topping 500+ pages.

- A programming language derived solely from UML... not just methods, classes, but the actual code within them derived from the various models found within the UML 2.0 spec. A completely graphical programming language.

thats a joke though... 500 pages for an undergrad dissertation is going a bit OTT and a waste of time not just for the student but also for the supervisor - IIRC in the preface of one of my AI books an MIT professor states that he tells his students he wont read more than 100 pages of a dissertation in an effort to make them get to the point.

You dont have to really be creative in a BSc course - youre not meant to be adding anything to the body of knowledge about a particular subject - youre meant to simply be learning/reading and then producing coursework that demonstrates you understand/can apply what youve learned.

If you want to be creative come up with new ideas/concepts then thats what an MPhil/PhD is for.

IMO any of the suggestions added on here are equally valid for Sam to pursue - so what if something similar has been done before - hes not starting a new business or performing ground breaking research therefore the only criteria should be something he is simply interested in.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adGive you a clue what got the top marks in my year.

- Legal case management system using oracle as a back end to a java front end, involved something about remote sites too not sure what, I do know the guy wrote a report topping 500+ pages.

In my uni that would get laughed at.

Id contribute an idea but I really cant think of anything that hasnt been done before?  Is this an important aspect of the project, or is it just the implementation of the idea?

Perhaps you should stick to what you know and improve upon it.  Conent Managed and E-Commerce websites?  Perhaps try to do one for a local comapny/buisness as a project.  

Quote from: CypherPerhaps try to do one for a local comapny/buisness as a project.  

I cant work for a company (even for free), Id get deported :p

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Maybe youre right. Ive been developing software since before you were born and Im probably bored of it now.

You miss my point.

Should you really be persuing a degree this late on in your life if you are unable to think of new concepts to come up with.

Yes, it proves what hes capable of in a way that is acceptable to business. The fact he can do it and has been doing it for X many years isnt part of this. It doesnt matter if he will never produce a unique programming application either, that is a side issue.

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf hes unable to come up with anything you have to start to wonder is it really what he should be spending his time doing.

Maybe youre right. Ive been developing software since before you were born and Im probably bored of it now.

You miss my point.

Should you really be persuing a degree this late on in your life if you are unable to think of new concepts to come up with.

Yes, it proves what hes capable of in a way that is acceptable to business. The fact he can do it and has been doing it for X many years isnt part of this. It doesnt matter if he will never produce a unique programming application either, that is a side issue.

No... experience proves that. University just gives people a foothold.

As for uniqueness its the primary point of this thread. He doesnt want to do something that has been done before.

Sam: your uni is crap if all it does is teach code monkeys, the reason the guy got top marks for that legal case system wasnt the implementation (which actually was more involved than it sounds) but for the analysis and documentation. Consideration of ethics, data protection act, information assurance, analysis of client requirements and development of the necessary use cases, non-functional requirements, and initial specification.

If you want a piece of crap which just involves knocking a website up... sure go right ahead. Not everything in your project is related to code, you will in fact be lucky to come out with a 3rd here if you dont give some consideration to the non-implementation side.

Documentation on my course accounted for something like 80% of the mark. 20% being given to implementation.

Sam you moron, why arent you listening to M3ta7h3ad ?


he obviously knows more about your course than you do !

Quote from: knightySam you moron, why arent you listening to M3ta7h3ad ?


he obviously knows more about your course than you do !

Because M3ta7h3ad is acting a moron again? That he doesnt understand the fact that in many big companies you cant get anywhere, no matter what experience you have, without the qualifications to back it up with?

Not difficult considering he doesnt even know what topic he wants to bloody do.

Knighty: Its clear to me that sam has turned it into a cockfight between his uni and mine.

Who gives a flying f**k at the end of the day, im simply saying that a simple website suggestion with minimal scope for future work, will not get you very far.

Unless the average tekforums member is a retard, I cannot be the only one who sees that.

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Quote from: knightySam you moron, why arent you listening to M3ta7h3ad ?


he obviously knows more about your course than you do !

Because M3ta7h3ad s acting a moron again? That he doesnt understand the fact that in many big companies you cant get anywhere, no matter what experience you have, without the qualifications to back it up with?

A computer science degree is a computer science degree, it gives you a very broad overview of everything. Of course Ambulance doctor/driver/person who stood by the side while the real people actually did the work, would know exactly what its like in the world of industry.

You do not need a degree in anything to be top of your field, nor recognised in your field. This is shown purely by looking at the entry criteria to professional bodies, hmmm are there any of those for ex-ambulance groupies? I dont know... but perhaps you should check that out

If you have experience in IT in a specific area, and you require that knowledge for a job it will get you further than a degree will. You dont require it at all. Its useful, but after 10 years in employment its very rare that you will actually get asked about your previous qualifications unless they are industry specific I.E. Prince2 or ITIL... Sam has suggested he was developing prior to me being born, would have thought 23 years of development would be enough experience for any job.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adKnighty: Its clear to me that sam has turned it into a cockfight between his uni and mine.

he has ?

well then it must be me thats the moron, I totaly missed that !

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adKnighty: Its clear to me that sam has turned it into a cockfight between his uni and mine.

he has ?

well then it must be me thats the moron, I totaly missed that !

Its okay, saves me making the giant neon sign. Posting it would have been a right bitch.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adYou do not need a degree in anything to be top of your field, nor recognised in your field. This is shown purely by looking at the entry criteria to professional bodies, hmmm are there any of those for ex-ambulance groupies? I dont know... but perhaps you should check that out

Um, as far as I know at uni and in academic circles, you do. Ok, techincally there are those students that somehow manage to make a breakthrough whilst studying as an undergrad and technically might be published in an academic peer reviewed journal before they have any qualifications. They *might* then get snapped up by some research group before they finish their degree and go places without a qualification.

But Id imagine the numbers of such people are so small its insignificant. Seems most academic and research jobs are closed to applicants without the relevant quals AND experience. The only times they might sod the quals is if youre one of the very few who are somehow famous for being a child prodigy in your field...

you can develop my idea sam & we go 50/50 ??

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adYou do not need a degree in anything to be top of your field, nor recognised in your field. This is shown purely by looking at the entry criteria to professional bodies, hmmm are there any of those for ex-ambulance groupies? I dont know... but perhaps you should check that out

Um, as far as I know at uni and in academic circles, you do. Ok, techincally there are those students that somehow manage to make a breakthrough whilst studying as an undergrad and technically might be published in an academic peer reviewed journal before they have any qualifications. They *might* then get snapped up by some research group before they finish their degree and go places without a qualification.

But Id imagine the numbers of such people are so small its insignificant. Seems most academic and research jobs are closed to applicants without the relevant quals AND experience. The only times they might sod the quals is if youre one of the very few who are somehow famous for being a child prodigy in your field...

Or you are one of the many millions who choose not to follow an academic route.

Quote from: Eggtasticoyou can develop my idea sam & we go 50/50 ??

Ok pm me :)

Quote from: M3ta7h3adDocumentation on my course accounted for something like 80% of the mark. 20% being given to implementation.

Having worked as a developer in the real world, thats a joke.
The BA Airmiles system for example has virtually no documentation, they dont have time.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf you have experience in IT in a specific area, and you require that knowledge for a job it will get you further than a degree will. You dont require it at all. Its useful, but after 10 years in employment its very rare that you will actually get asked about your previous qualifications unless they are industry specific I.E. Prince2 or ITIL... Sam has suggested he was developing prior to me being born, would have thought 23 years of development would be enough experience for any job.

Youre very opininated Metalhead and think you know it all. You see I never actually said it had to be a website, I just said I wanted it to be a website, and now youve gone off on one about how easy and pathetic the website suggestions are. You also have zero idea how the university system works here and are again making incorrect assumptions about the level of ability / effort required for classes.

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf you have experience in IT in a specific area, and you require that knowledge for a job it will get you further than a degree will. You dont require it at all. Its useful, but after 10 years in employment its very rare that you will actually get asked about your previous qualifications unless they are industry specific I.E. Prince2 or ITIL... Sam has suggested he was developing prior to me being born, would have thought 23 years of development would be enough experience for any job.

Youre very opininated Metalhead and think you know it all. You see I never actually said it had to be a website, I just said I wanted it to be a website, and now youve gone off on one about how easy and pathetic the website suggestions are. You also have zero idea how the university system works here and are again making incorrect assumptions about the level of ability / effort required for classes.

Have a look at your own topic title mate.

Then the assumptions im making with regards to requiring more effort than a simple website, must be over-egging the american degree pudding.

Ive not gone off on one at all about how easy and pathetic the website suggestions are. I read your first post, it said that you wanted something that hadnt been done before, and the one suggestion I naysayed was one that I am convinced has been done before in a commercial sense.

Have I mentioned anything against the sports stats site? no... its a bloody good idea. Have I mentioned anything against any of the other ideas, no.

The only reason "ease" came into is because Nexus was whining about how difficult my suggestion seemed. (its a piece of piss given 10 minutes thought).

As for documentation for the airmiles system being non-existant, then im shocked. And when it comes time to revamping it im pretty damn sure people dealing with reverse engineering will be chomping at the bit for a go at that. Youre telling me a corporate system is in play with no requirements being defined, no documentation for developers to follow, no test cases, no test criteria, no specification? I suppose its possible but it just serves how the importance of documentation needs to be ramped up within the developers mindset.

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Quote from: Eggtasticoyou can develop my idea sam & we go 50/50 ??

Ok pm me :)

msn - dont trust these weirdos :P

whats your MSN address?

Quote from: M3ta7h3adAs for documentation for the airmiles system being non-existant, then im shocked. And when it comes time to revamping it im pretty damn sure people dealing with reverse engineering will be chomping at the bit for a go at that. Youre telling me a corporate system is in play with no requirements being defined, no documentation for developers to follow, no test cases, no test criteria, no specification? I suppose its possible but it just serves how the importance of documentation needs to be ramped up within the developers mindset.

Youd be surprised/shocked at how things work in my place then. Tis a small firm and they are changing things now but a lot of stuff isnt really documented and certain issues do just have to be fixed by people just looking at the code. If we need to change a bit of code rapidly then a developer simply does it and then the patch is sent to the client.

Fact is the clients will still pay several million or so for a license and a couple of million a year each for support.

Quote from: DaveYoud be surprised/shocked at how things work in my place then. Tis a small firm and they are changing things now but a lot of stuff isnt really documented and certain issues do just have to be fixed by people just looking at the code. If we need to change a bit of code rapidly then a developer simply does it and then the patch is sent to the client.

Fact is the clients will still pay several million or so for a license and a couple of million a year each for support.

my company is different. Everything is documented. anything new, gets documented, but they have to be to get their little goverment stamp thing that gets assesed every 6 months.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adAs for documentation for the airmiles system being non-existant, then im shocked. And when it comes time to revamping it im pretty damn sure people dealing with reverse engineering will be chomping at the bit for a go at that. Youre telling me a corporate system is in play with no requirements being defined, no documentation for developers to follow, no test cases, no test criteria, no specification? I suppose its possible but it just serves how the importance of documentation needs to be ramped up within the developers mindset.

This just shows youve not yet worked in a variety of companies, as Dave has backed me up.
You dont need to reverse engineer anything just because you dont have documentation do you, thats when you lose the code.

(Very few companies use test cases mate, its about quick testing and getting it live :))

Quote from: M3ta7h3adHave a look at your own topic title mate.

My title doesnt say "US Degree requires project to be website" !

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adAs for documentation for the airmiles system being non-existant, then im shocked. And when it comes time to revamping it im pretty damn sure people dealing with reverse engineering will be chomping at the bit for a go at that. Youre telling me a corporate system is in play with no requirements being defined, no documentation for developers to follow, no test cases, no test criteria, no specification? I suppose its possible but it just serves how the importance of documentation needs to be ramped up within the developers mindset.

This just shows youve not yet worked in a variety of companies, as Dave has backed me up.
You dont need to reverse engineer anything just because you dont have documentation do you, thats when you lose the code.

(Very few companies use test cases mate, its about quick testing and getting it live :))

Reverse engineering can be used to determine the initial requirements of a project. Reverse engineering for code is one thing, but theres the documentation that can be derived, also use it to determine database schemas.

No test cases? Granted smaller ones may not, smaller projects may just rely on developers doing their own unit testing, and forgo integration testing but testing in general at least from what ive seen is a huge part of most projects. Granted ive not worked in such a variety as yourself or dave, but im working for a company now that interfaces with many others.

They all work in a similar manner, strictly adhering to project methodologies, be they agile or otherwise.

As for the title... no but it indicates you yourself specifically want a website idea.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adAs for the title... no but it indicates you yourself specifically want a website idea.

Exactly, which is what I said a couple of posts ago that you argued with.
I said, I wanted one, not that it was required, but you argued with me :)

To quote John Dies at the End...(It seems quite apt in this circumstance)

QuoteSilence again.

"That is, I'm referring to my cock being bigger than either of yours."

Big Jim hesitated, then said, "Please. My cock's cock is bigger than your cock."

John retorted, "You don't even exist. We're all just a figment of my cock's imagination."

Quote from: M3ta7h3adNo test cases? Granted smaller ones may not, smaller projects may just rely on developers doing their own unit testing, and forgo integration testing but testing in general at least from what ive seen is a huge part of most projects. Granted ive not worked in such a variety as yourself or dave, but im working for a company now that interfaces with many others.

Ive not worked in a variety tbh..

we do use test cases btw (though Im not personally involved in QA) however not having much in the way of documentation is fairly common - it isnt like the public sector or defence stuff tbh... some things need to be fixed a lot more rapidly & developers right up to director level can be woken up 24/7 or even when on holiday.

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adDocumentation on my course accounted for something like 80% of the mark. 20% being given to implementation.

Having worked as a developer in the real world, thats a joke.
The BA Airmiles system for example has virtually no documentation, they dont have time.

Metal assumed I had no experience programming, I wrote an entire database for a company within six weeks back on an old 8086 using dos, machine code and basic. The reason was they had spent the previous four months trying to work out how a commercial package of the time worked, the documentation was terrible. Half of what I did was precisely what hes talking about, getting the documentation and training materials ready. When I went back a couple of years later they were still using my system, simply because it worked and it had never needed anyone to go in and alter it. Even so it was documented throughout so that virtually any programmer could quickly find out what was happening and where.

Usually having no documentation is a recipe for pouring money needlessly down the drain, which is what BA seem to love doing IMO.

[edit]Nearly forgot, most successful internet ideas are relatively simple in concept, its how much you want to put behind them that makes the difference.[/edit]

Quote from: SeriousMetal assumed I had no experience programming, I wrote an entire database for a company within six weeks back on an old 8086 using dos, machine code and basic.

explain how/why you needed to use machine code cos my bullsh*t meter is going off the scale......

I see this threads gone off topic but arent you a first/second year of an undergrad degree?  If thats the case then your project requires nothing in the form of individuality or novel idea.  In the first two years youre assessed purely on your ability to implement something.  Masters degree its using other resources and combining them in a novel way -i.e. a flickr and facebook bridge or something.  Just dont overdo it as it would be a waste of your time :)


That said, if I was you and going for marks in academia with no financial concerns Id be working on contextual data.  Build a system that strips data from a huge data source and lets the user subscribe/view specific things based on that descriptive data.  Facebooks the obvious one right now with the objects being people and the events being posts, pictures, etc.  Theres no reason that any other object cant be described like this and brought together in the same way.  Harvesting useful info from a big site like Amazon would be good.

As you mentioned music theres no reason you couldnt apply it to do something along the lines of your last.fm idea and essentially add in basic contextual/MPEG 7 descriptor stuff.  Make the objects artists, songs, albums or whatever.  Have the events be new album releases, new people joining a record label signings, chart information, download stats, etc.

A user could add a band or song they like and get notifications of new releases and progress in things like charts.  That info could all be datamined from itunes/amazon/bbc charts, lastfm, etc.  Add in some social stuff of "what are my friends listening to", festival/event listings harvested from public sites and you get a decent modular site.  Should be totally modular.  Social networking is basically just contectual web 3.0 stuff but has only been applied to people.  The rest is coming so might as well ninja the grades before these services are already live.


Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.

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Quote from: SeriousMetal assumed I had no experience programming, I wrote an entire database for a company within six weeks back on an old 8086 using dos, machine code and basic.

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explain how/why you needed to use machine code cos my bullsh*t meter is going off the scale......

I didnt, I could have worked it all in basic. TBH it was a pain in the butt but it gave me some extra speed and when what you have is 8mhz every extra bit helps.

Oh, the bits of code were used in sorting. A good bit of my time was spent changing constants from decimal to hex, this speeds up the process too.

Would have been much easier using the BBC micro to be totally honest.

The last thing I intended to do initially was use machine code, but the problem of the thing slowing down with higher numbers of items in searches meant I had to use any means possible. Learning something like C would have taken me more time than it took to write the stuff anyway.

Quote from: SteveF--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.

Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.

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Quote from: SteveF--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.

Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.

when are you going to sign into msn

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Quote from: SteveF--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.

Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.

If you are considering facebook as a basis for a program. Theres the new VS2008 Express editions with the facebook developer toolkit. Makes it a piece of piss to develop a unique desktop application utilising the facebook platform.

My course was modular. The only things defining what you could do were "required modules" "pre-reqs" and the timetabling. Which effectively means most people of that year in uni, do the same or similar modules.

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Quote from: SteveF--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.

Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.

Ahh ok.  I must admit I know very little about the US system.  Itd be a nice little project if you want to go down the web route.  

Data wrapping looks like it will be pretty big soon.  Ive dabbled a bit in writing some systems that inject data into MPEG-47 wrappers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-7) and let you treat the video as an object and then the actors in the movie are objects (i.e. you could link to their biographies on imdb) and the places in the movie are other objects (could link to google maps).  I never bothered following it up and work didnt use it for anything since it was just a demo of what you could do with XML wrapped video streams but I remember thinking at the time - someone should make a website that does this...  If an item appears in the video (like a fancy gadget, watch or clothing item) then they could be tagged with a link to a shop that sold that item.  I saw the latter being a potential way of making money since it would fit well with googles adsense system.  Bike comes on the screen.  Bounce the referral through googles adsense for that bike and voila - pay per click.

It would either work and make money or fail based on useability I guess...

Thats an excellent thought Steve. I can see youtube pouncing on that.

Looks like its similar to Smil with the synchronisation aspect. cool stuff.

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Quote from: SteveF--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.

Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.

Ahh ok.  I must admit I know very little about the US system.  Itd be a nice little project if you want to go down the web route.  

Data wrapping looks like it will be pretty big soon.  Ive dabbled a bit in writing some systems that inject data into MPEG-47 wrappers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-7) and let you treat the video as an object and then the actors in the movie are objects (i.e. you could link to their biographies on imdb) and the places in the movie are other objects (could link to google maps).  I never bothered following it up and work didnt use it for anything since it was just a demo of what you could do with XML wrapped video streams but I remember thinking at the time - someone should make a website that does this...  If an item appears in the video (like a fancy gadget, watch or clothing item) then they could be tagged with a link to a shop that sold that item.  I saw the latter being a potential way of making money since it would fit well with googles adsense system.  Bike comes on the screen.  Bounce the referral through googles adsense for that bike and voila - pay per click.

It would either work and make money or fail based on useability I guess...

Cool suggestion with the video, it again is basically semantic websites and date and the use of xml and ajax and the server side language. The concept has been around for a while but only finally showing signs of taking off but the OO concept and the video etc here is a good idea.
This was what I was trying to say in regard to the picture site but a certain person could not get their head around it, seemed to complicated

it is again disappointing to see others just waffling and bashing other posters because they feel like it spoiling a thread

Quoteit is again disappointing to see others just waffling and bashing other posters because they feel like it spoiling a thread

Yes it is nexus... disappointing.

While I love how I can have such an effect on you, I think youll find my opinion of your idea has not changed, MPEG-7 has nothing to do with AJAX, or server side languages, nor a website even. There is such a thing as dropping a subject when it becomes too tiresome.

Your idea = crap.
Steves idea = using new technology in an innovative way.

They are completely different.

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Quoteit is again disappointing to see others just waffling and bashing other posters because they feel like it spoiling a thread

Yes it is nexus... disappointing.

While I love how I can have such an effect on you, I think youll find my opinion of your idea has not changed, MPEG-7 has nothing to do with AJAX, or server side languages, nor a website even. There is such a thing as dropping a subject when it becomes too tiresome.

Your idea = crap.
Steves idea = using new technology in an innovative way.

They are completely different.

I honestly do not care or mind an opinion on an idea and not the point a mature and relevent to the read post would have been as I already mentioned but you were not intending that and from other comments made on this thread to others as well as in general it is clear.
Steve idea, same as mine added to video rather then images So clear you either do not understand the actual technology (bar the video bit which is of course harder then objects on images) or do not care and just being an arse, either case in this thread and in general on tek your an arse again at the moment and I am not the only one thinking or saying it.

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Quoteit is again disappointing to see others just waffling and bashing other posters because they feel like it spoiling a thread

Yes it is nexus... disappointing.

While I love how I can have such an effect on you, I think youll find my opinion of your idea has not changed, MPEG-7 has nothing to do with AJAX, or server side languages, nor a website even. There is such a thing as dropping a subject when it becomes too tiresome.

Your idea = crap.
Steves idea = using new technology in an innovative way.

They are completely different.

I honestly do not care or mind an opinion on an idea and not the point a mature and relevent to the read post would have been as I already mentioned but you were not intending that and from other comments made on this thread to others as well as in general it is clear.
Steve idea, same as mine added to video rather then images So clear you either do not understand the actual technology (bar the video bit which is of course harder then objects on images) or do not care and just being an arse, either case in this thread and in general on tek your an arse again at the moment and I am not the only one thinking or saying it.

What image compression tech allows the embedding of xml metadata (not exif) inside of it? If there is one, and you know it then let me know, but as far as im aware only MPEG appears to offer it.

Youre talking about a database of data linked to images by "tagging"... all database action.

Steve is on about embedded data as part of the video stream, allowing interaction in many different ways.

Best example I can think of is imagine MHEG having this capability... set top boxes all of a sudden able to give information about the products found in a program, prime advertising potential. Useful for youtube, useful for STBs, useful for supermarket demonstrations.

Videos can all of a sudden contain context sensitive data relating to elements within the video. It doesnt need to be "associated" with data, it contains all the associations inside of it. Its a huge application.

Quote from: DEViANCEi dont know if it allready exsists but ive always thought a music version of imdb would be good.

http://www.discogs.com/ any good?

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Quote from: DEViANCEi dont know if it allready exsists but ive always thought a music version of imdb would be good.

http://www.discogs.com/ any good?

http://www.allmusic.com that is the daddy of music sites, very usefull site to know when you want to know some useless info a band