Just bought a brand new Toshiba Laptop, its a great peice of kit.
But WTF!!! is this pathetic excuse for an OS that is ruining it!!!!!!!!!!!!1!11
how do I make vista be like XP?
Quote from: DEViANCEJust bought a brand new Toshiba Laptop, its a great peice of kit.
But WTF!!! is this pathetic excuse for an OS that is ruining it!!!!!!!!!!!!1!11
how do I make vista be like XP?
service pack 1 or maybe 2, lol
Seriously though m8 indeed, sp1 at the very least will sort a lot of things out but currently you got to do it all manually
If you google for windows vista configuration/tweaking there are loads of sites on how to turn off a lot of crap etc. Some of the updates actually do turn off and sort some things as well.
ill have to look into it.
ive only been using it for 30mins so far but pissed of with so many things and cant even workout how to browse folders i have shared on other computers on the network. keeps starting media player when you click on the computer for somereason.
I like vista, took me a few days to get used to it tho.
Quote from: DEViANCEJust bought a brand new Toshiba Laptop, its a great peice of kit.
But WTF!!! is this pathetic excuse for an OS that is ruining it!!!!!!!!!!!!1!11
how do I make vista be like XP?
There is nothing wrong with it.
Appearance & Personilastions > Themes >Windows Classic.
If you really dont like it, stick an XP disc in and move on.
I had a look at Vista on a PC in PCworld, Laughed myself all the way out of the door.
In the end, if I have to move, it will be to Linux and forget the games.
Quote from: SamI like vista, took me a few days to get used to it tho.
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i love vista, i cant believe the hate people give it, fair play if you dont like it... but i think it looks more like a mac os now (which is a step in the right direction)
Quote from: SeriousI had a look at Vista on a PC in PCworld, Laughed myself all the way out of the door.
In the end, if I have to move, it will be to Linux and forget the games.
One step ahead of you :)
I havent booted my WinXP partition in over a month. Its still there for now, but more as a safety net than anything else. The dedicated partition will go as soon as I have time to get my head around running WinXP on a virtual machine under Linux (doesnt look hard, just havent had the spare time to really try it).
i wasnt a fan when i started using vista.. but then it grew on me and i was sad to see it go when my trial period ran out :(
It is different it basically starts to copy what is good about the OSX operating system, and it has very good elements and is defiantly the step in the right direction but just like Melenium which again was the right step was to bloated, They did not have service pack improvements as good as xp and sp1 certainly improved xp and sp2 did and the current one I have the 64bit is very good bar the dwin issue from a recent update now and again.
Vista will get better with a service pack or 2 and striped a little
What is your obsession with service packs anyway? They are only a collection of updates in one download anyway, they could release service pack 3 now if they really liked.
ME wasnt a step in the right direction it was terrible.
Every one I know who has Vista, or who has upgraded to vista have had nothing but good things to say about it, no matter how small a compliment.
Switch to apple, pay £100 a service pack and then tell me your going to wait for SP2,
I wish the newer games would run on Win 98, damn I loved 98, so damn simple to use.
It also ran games really well as it had load of stuff not there.
Quote from: CypherWhat is your obsession with service packs anyway? They are only a collection of updates in one download anyway, they could release service pack 3 now if they really liked.
ME wasnt a step in the right direction it was terrible.
Every one I know who has Vista, or who has upgraded to vista have had nothing but good things to say about it, no matter how small a compliment.
Switch to apple, pay £100 a service pack and then tell me your going to wait for SP2,
ME was terrible but was the basis of the step from 98 to xp. I know that, even called vista me2 of which is being said around web now as well
Service packs are not just updates, they take in information about the operating system and make changes, as mentioned in another thread for example in vistas first service pack one element will be the rewritten code so that the search system will be able to be turned off and another like googles used in its place. This has been a legal forced change but just an example of how the service packs do not just have patches.
Patches make fixes and small changes, service packs can make large and fundamental changes to the operating system.
I will be happy with xp until which again i have said before sp1 at the least and maybe sp2 or the over clocking/gaming version ships later in the year. I will also be getting a laptop at the end of the year and it will be a mac book pro with a hefty discount which will have new osx on it and bootcamp it with xp or vista for odd program, should be getting an iphone in that deal i think, but anyway
dx10 rules, very nice features in vista but has problems, average joe will think it is nice but things like no full sli drivers etc and all the other issues documented and the fact MS are now pleading for more people to buy it, its far from perfect, sp1 will also feature less drm infection due to legal issues as well.
"they take in information about the operating system and make changes, as mentioned in another thread for example in vistas first service pack one element will be the rewritten code so that the search system will be able to be turned off "
No, thats just another defintition of a hotfix/patch/update. The only difference between individual updates and service packs are addition of new features. I cant see anything usefull in the upcoming SP1.
There is very relation between xp and Me. Me was part of the 9x family of windows OS and the last DOS OS. It was marketed as the home version of 2000. It was sh*t, there were problems installing it, getting it to run, getting it to work with other hardware or software, even to stop running it.
Xp is based on NT. 2000 was its predacesor. There is a world of differnece and limitations between NT and 9x. The features of both previous NT and 9x formed the basis of XP as that was the last 9x OS, thats it. thats the only link between the two. If anything 2000 was closer to XP. It was in development before Me was even released.
Quote from: CypherXp is based on NT. 2000 was its predacesor. There is a world of differnece and limitations between NT and 9x. The features of both previous NT and 9x formed the basis of XP as that was the last 9x OS, thats it. thats the only link between the two. If anything 2000 was closer to XP. It was in development before Me was even released.
Im trying to work out what you are saying here.
THe 2 families are the DOS tree and the NT Tree.
i.e 9x & Millenium Edition being in the 9x family, and the NT Family NT4 being the 1st "Proper" NT OS. 2k and XP are all essentially the same OS with a few tweakes, hence their classification as NT5 and NT5.1 (As far as M$ Are concerned they arent far enough apart to be given their own number)
how do i get folders like my pictures to show the icons as thumbnails like xp did?
nvm found it, why isnt it set like that as default
Becuase it isnt xp?
Quote from: BeakerQuote from: CypherXp is based on NT. 2000 was its predacesor. There is a world of differnece and limitations between NT and 9x. The features of both previous NT and 9x formed the basis of XP as that was the last 9x OS, thats it. thats the only link between the two. If anything 2000 was closer to XP. It was in development before Me was even released.
Im trying to work out what you are saying here.
THe 2 families are the DOS tree and the NT Tree.
i.e 9x & Millenium Edition being in the 9x family, and the NT Family NT4 being the 1st "Proper" NT OS. 2k and XP are all essentially the same OS with a few tweakes, hence their classification as NT5 and NT5.1 (As far as M$ Are concerned they arent far enough apart to be given their own number)
Sorry, Yes thats what I said.
ME wasnt so bad. If you hacked it enough(like I did) it was actually faster than 98SE!
ME was a quality OS, the people that complained are the same people that think you have to reinstall XP every few months.
Fraid not. I prefer to avoid doing that at all costs.
Quote from: Clockd 0NeME was a quality OS, the people that complained are the same people that think you have to reinstall XP every few months.
Did you use ME m8? lol it deserves its worst OS award :)
Vista error messages, are they still meaningless or actually tell you what happened yet?
I think your going to be waiting a while nexus....
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06/23/no_vista_service_pack_this_year/1
yay1 that means they may roll out XP SP3 then. They said they wouldnt be releasing it until they had finished VistaSP1.
Also, service packs do usually add new functionality while also containing the previous hotfixes and patches. A Service pack will often do a complete replacement of the Kernel with Windows, along with adding things that cant be put in there with a patch. WinFS for example is supposed to arrive with VistaSp1 and XP SP3, its too big a change to put into a hotfix. that said, they may hold off with SP3 until they can release the same tech over both OSen.
Anyone got their 5.1 soundcard working properly yet?
it was a major pain when vista first came out, 5.1 only worked with my audigy if you set some environment effects (concert hall crap)
Quote from: neXusDid you use ME m8? lol it deserves its worst OS award :)
I used it for years, until XP was released, then I got a hooky copy from some guy in college :mrgreen:
I used ME on a 700mhz Celeron, Packard Bell PC for years and thought it was great. Bloated and slow to start with but ok after abit of tweaking.
Im getting used to vista now, still dont like the way folders work etc.
one thing that is really doing my head in is if i miss a link when I click it keeps minimising, is that a Vista thing or an over sensitive touch pad?
I tried ME, it kept going wrong. It was some weird mix of NT and 9x that sent the inner geek in me into a weird sense of WTF. Then it crashed, then it got infested with spyware, then I nearly killed my younger brother as he did it not once but TWICE forcing me to re-install again.
It felt like Windows 98 with lots of pointless media enhancements to me. Stuff you didnt use wizards for anyway like uploading photos and keeping pictures in albums. And techie geeks like myself found the command line being gutted and replaced with something else weird. I just found the thing awkward to network to another PC using wireless.
Quote from: Beakeryay1 that means they may roll out XP SP3 then. They said they wouldnt be releasing it until they had finished VistaSP1.
Also, service packs do usually add new functionality while also containing the previous hotfixes and patches. A Service pack will often do a complete replacement of the Kernel with Windows, along with adding things that cant be put in there with a patch. WinFS for example is supposed to arrive with VistaSp1 and XP SP3, its too big a change to put into a hotfix. that said, they may hold off with SP3 until they can release the same tech over both OSen.
Rumour mill was that sp3 would bring directx10 to xp but all the moaning from MS that Vista aint selling even if they were going to they may pull it to get you to get vista
Quote from: Arson WulfI tried ME, it kept going wrong. It was some weird mix of NT and 9x that sent the inner geek in me into a weird sense of WTF. Then it crashed, then it got infested with spyware, then I nearly killed my younger brother as he did it not once but TWICE forcing me to re-install again.
It felt like Windows 98 with lots of pointless media enhancements to me. Stuff you didnt use wizards for anyway like uploading photos and keeping pictures in albums. And techie geeks like myself found the command line being gutted and replaced with something else weird. I just found the thing awkward to network to another PC using wireless.
And why many call vista me2 :) as it sounds similar, has good stuff but to much in places.
Hell yeah! At one point I actually uninstalled XP so I could put 2000 Pro on isntead. One reason was I was training on it at college (WHY?!?!) and the other was less frigging wizards. And a clean install of 2k had less crap running in the background.
I do still recall how fast said PC went with 98 on it after I botched something up and had to use that as I lsot the 2k disk at some point. A matter of seconds for the machine to start and be ready! Theres an idea, how fast can you get a machine to start competition? :p
Quote from: neXusRumour mill was that sp3 would bring directx10 to xp but all the moaning from MS that Vista aint selling even if they were going to they may pull it to get you to get vista
they are _very_ unlikely to bring Dx10 into XP. Not that it couldnt support it, but more because they NEED to sell Vista. They have a lemon on their hands that isnt selling, they need to shift units, and they arent doing. Vista doesnt offer any major advances over XP for most users, and people have figured that out. Its pretty, but that is it. In fact Ive found its more arse than its worth in many respects. I know few of our customers at work are going to use it, and i know my personal customers arent going to it because they are all running 2k3/XP builds with spare licences.
What is amusing me is that Vienna is supposed to available in early 2009. IF it stays on track-and being MS its a bloody big if-then ill probably miss an entire iteration of Windows, and i know I wont be the only one.