I met a 11/10 last week, stunning girl, Id marry her tomorrow and have her babies too. We had an awesome date, been chatting a bit in the week but its gone cold over the past few days. Meh. Im a natural cocky bastard with girls I like but Im also sensitive and totally not a ho, and I think that messed her head up a bit, but also shes either shes cock-tease playing or just really busy cos shes missing my msns and stuff which Id be fine with, like next! whatever, but then later on shes like aww Im sorry I missed you. So Im paranoid now and all emotional. My mates think I should play back but I dont cos I genuinely like her.
3x killer chat up lines go to whoever can make sense of that ^.
1st rule of dealing with women, its all f**ked, and just when you want it work like you expect, it wont.
Run with it - Luke Warm * 11/10 = As good a place to start as any...
yeah.... if shes a 11/10 shell be used to the attention and guys running round after her so you might have to give her that untill things get going ;-)
just dont let her take it too far...
and no matter what... dont get too serious / clingy or youll be out the door like a shot :-o
Yeah, Soy and Alan are right - Ive been seriously hung up over 11/10s before and they can mess your head up no matter how you are used to handling women normally. Get things back to a level playing field, be cool and be natural with her. Dont start trying to play the game, its bollocks. If you want it to work, keep it real and keep it natural. I forking hate womens games and refuse to play up to them.
To me it sounds like shes still interested or I doubt shed waste time with all the I miss you stuff, shes obviously not the type of girl to need attention. Maybe tone down the fronting a bit and she might open up some more if shes serious about it. Have you asked her about her lifestyle, what might be making her busy and such?
^^ well obv. if shes an 11/10 shes busy chasing after me ! :p
Quote from: knightyyeah.... if shes a 11/10 shell be used to the attention and guys running round after her so you might have to give her that untill things get going ;-)
nooooo knighty - that is the last thing you want to do
take a step back and get level headed about this - she isnt 11/10 shes a hot girl - there are a shed load of them in every city in the UK - I live with a couple of girls who dance in music vids/clubs etc.. one has male models and pop stars chasing her- they know theyre hot and can manipulate men etc.. - dont let this one do it to you.
If shes ignoring you then guilt trip her a bit - you want to condition her so that ignoring you is a bad thing to do and shell feel bad when she does it. If you dont know her too well/havent known her for long then dont reveal too much of a sensitive side just yet either. You need to somehow picture her as more of a 7/10 girl that youd be very relaxed about being cocky with in a bar knowing shell pretty much just take any directions you give her.
do not under any circumstances, no matter how smitten, treat hot girls any differently else youll just be another one of a chain of blokes they can disregard at will
No time for the 10/10ers like me anymore then Alan? :(
Quote from: DaveIf shes ignoring you then guilt trip her a bit - you want to condition her so that ignoring you is a bad thing to do and shell feel bad when she does it. If you dont know her too well/havent known her for long then dont reveal too much of a sensitive side just yet either. You need to somehow picture her as more of a 7/10 girl that youd be very relaxed about being cocky with in a bar knowing shell pretty much just take any directions you give her.
I disagree. Intelligent women can spot this straight away. Its more game playing and not the best way to start a relationship - it might work if youre after the quick bang bang bang though.
Women are evil.
See GD.
Oh dear. :/
Quote from: Clockd 0NeI disagree. Intelligent women can spot this straight away. Its more game playing and not the best way to start a relationship - it might work if youre after the quick bang bang bang though.
It doesnt matter if theyre intelligent and can spot it (and not all of them can tbh...)
the fact is if youre going to act like a chump with girls youll be treated like a chump
if he is acting like every other guy out there then what is it that is going to make him the prize - does he look like Johnny Depp or have a fortune to match Warren Buffet?
Or is he going to make himself fun to be with, a bit different from other guys and not someone to be taken for granted/walked all over.
Hot girls meet plenty of nice attractive-ish regular guys whod all like to date them - if youve got nothing to differentiate yourself from the others then your chances of success in the long term are the square root of f**k all.
Yeah I agree there, but it seems to me sdp isnt a likely chump and is already pretty cocksure (no puns) with women. If he knows how to handle women already coming into it with some kind of gameplan doesnt seem the best idea, he just needs to keep his cool with her like you say, chop her back down mentally to the 7/10.
I never really like recommending people operate out of their zone with stuff like that, especially when its someone their interested in. Practice the no chump attitude stuff with girls youre not overly fussed about. Then if it all goes wrong, you know you wont have yourself to blame.
yeah but if you dont really know a girl then you cant really be that into her - youre just fooling yourself a bit because she is hot and youre getting a bit smitten
a girl like this is perfect for this sort of thing because unless youre prepared to step outside of your comfort zone and take risks then youre never going to get much experience in handling girls who push your buttons that much.
If it all goes wrong then who cares as long as she isnt a friend/work colleague (both of which ARE bad ideas to practice stuff on*) there are plenty more out there
too many people fall into the whole shes the one trap when frankly it is a complete load of balls
(*currently getting a lot of grief off a female work colleague on my team as a result of certain drunken antics in a nightclub with another female work colleague who she now refers to as that slag upstairs)
wait a min... Im not saying run around after like a lost puppy...
what I meant is that she wont be used to making the moves etc...
personally, I dont think the games/bullsh*t etc.. lasts past a couple of dates.... that stuff only works if youre willing to risk messing things up by using it.... sure if you meet a hot girl in a bar you can ignore the fact that shes hot and itll get her attention.... but I dont think it lasts long.
theyve already had one date spd rated as "awesome" so they know each other a bit....
I get the impresion spd knows what hes doing... just sometimes its nice to have a second oppinion... and I thik were all in agreement to take it easy and make sure not to come on too stong etc...
Some advice that works.
Listen to what she says and treat her as an equal / but If shes rude of or neglectfull, tell her. Respect is earned.
Be happy and fun company without being too freaky or weird
Be interesting and self confidant without being a prick
Be thoughtfull and kind without being to clingy or desprate
Quote from: DaveIf shes ignoring you then guilt trip her a bit - you want to condition her so that ignoring you is a bad thing to do and shell feel bad when she does it.
Sounds like a job for an electric shock collar :D
^ :heehaw:
Hmm, how do i go with the guilt trip thing? Be cheeky?
there is plenty of material on this sort of stuff on the net:
http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/06_Troubleshooting/Miscellaneous/noreturn.shtml
also I thought this quote was quite appropriate:
QuoteRoss Jeffries: "You see, after years of experience and study, Ive come to the conclusion that a woman can only experience real passion for if on some level she believes she could do something to lose you! Understand that when you show this willingness to walk away, in any area of your life, it conveys the message that you are the prize to be pursued, that you are the person of value, and they had better take advantage of the opportunity. This is an attitude that will move you forward in any area thats challenging you. By way of contrast, if you show a non-stop, forever and ever devotion to her, and put up with her crap and ambivalence, then where is that tension of knowing she could lose you? Answer: nowhere! And thats why you get nowhere when you put up with this kind of stuff! If youve seen an initially hot relationship grow ice-cold, this is one big reason!!!"
Id say theres a good deal of truth to that quote actually.
Girls want what they cant have... but theyre lazy bums and so they wont work for it :D
Quote from: Davethere is plenty of material on this sort of stuff on the net:
http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/06_Troubleshooting/Miscellaneous/noreturn.shtml
also I thought this quote was quite appropriate:
QuoteRoss Jeffries: "You see, after years of experience and study, Ive come to the conclusion that a woman can only experience real passion for if on some level she believes she could do something to lose you! Understand that when you show this willingness to walk away, in any area of your life, it conveys the message that you are the prize to be pursued, that you are the person of value, and they had better take advantage of the opportunity. This is an attitude that will move you forward in any area thats challenging you. By way of contrast, if you show a non-stop, forever and ever devotion to her, and put up with her crap and ambivalence, then where is that tension of knowing she could lose you? Answer: nowhere! And thats why you get nowhere when you put up with this kind of stuff! If youve seen an initially hot relationship grow ice-cold, this is one big reason!!!"
f**k me thats so true.
hmm, Ive blanked her today but she just text to say shes at her mums til nine tho - shes a player.
Next!
edit: I hit on a 6/10 earlier and got a "maybe" - I must be getting old :(
edit2: wow, this is a proper knife edge lol. She text again and I knocked her back a bit and its on me again to reopen tomorrow.