Quote from: SteveFSerious! Stop buying HD plasma tvs!  Youre on benefits!!!  It makes the rest of us sat at work want the day off ;-D

Wasnt a plasma, it was a 47" LCD I ended up with early this year

Unfortunately I had to do it or at least spend the money due to government restrictions on how much I could have. Got several thousand after my mother died, which I would have rather not have had, so some of the money I still had in the bank had to go.

OTOH I probably have practically the lowest spending rate on this forum, I get £47 a week excluding the money I have in reserve and dont always spend all of it... :shock:

Dont know what I am going to do if they actually decide to publish the book I sent and its successful.

QuoteUnfortunately I had to do it or at least spend the money due to government restrictions on how much I could have

dude you receive several grand.  You should have come off the dole and used that for a while instead of spending it all so you could keep claiming!  You didnt have to dump it all overboard.  Its the culture youre in that thinks you did.

The savings limit is there so the state only pays those who are unable to support themselves.  You could have supported yourself for a while.  Youre not supposed to dump any cash you come into in order to keep claiming.  Off topic but seriously!!!

QuoteDont know what I am going to do if they actually decide to publish the book I sent and its successful.

Id hazard a guess youll dump it into something so you can continue claiming and then complain how youre not allowed to have savings.



Anyway this is for another thread but frankly youre taking the piss.

Quote from: SteveF

QuoteUnfortunately I had to do it or at least spend the money due to government restrictions on how much I could have

dude you receive several grand.  You should have come off the dole and used that for a while instead of spending it all so you could keep claiming!  You didnt have to dump it all overboard.  Its the culture youre in that thinks you did.

The savings limit is there so the state only pays those who are unable to support themselves.  You could have supported yourself for a while.  Youre not supposed to dump any cash you come into in order to keep claiming.  Off topic but seriously!!!

QuoteDont know what I am going to do if they actually decide to publish the book I sent and its successful.

Id hazard a guess youll dump it into something so you can continue claiming and then complain how youre not allowed to have savings.



Anyway this is for another thread but frankly youre taking the piss.

Good lad, saved me writing that post there.  :!:

Quote from: SteveF

QuoteUnfortunately I had to do it or at least spend the money due to government restrictions on how much I could have

dude you receive several grand.  You should have come off the dole and used that for a while instead of spending it all so you could keep claiming!  You didnt have to dump it all overboard.  Its the culture youre in that thinks you did.

The savings limit is there so the state only pays those who are unable to support themselves.  You could have supported yourself for a while.  Youre not supposed to dump any cash you come into in order to keep claiming.  Off topic but seriously!!!

QuoteDont know what I am going to do if they actually decide to publish the book I sent and its successful.

Id hazard a guess youll dump it into something so you can continue claiming and then complain how youre not allowed to have savings.



Anyway this is for another thread but frankly youre taking the piss.

Obviously youve just stuck your head up your own asshole and farted to get the fumes. You dont get very far on a thousand quid these days, and if I had of quit the dole as you suggest then when I went back I would have lost a lot of money that Im not getting anyway. Actually if you count it that way I would have lost over two grand for a gain of one.

I knew it was coming, I had two f**king grand in a bank account so I spent it, that meant when I got just about five thousand from my mother dying I wouldnt be penalised over having nothing. Effectively the two grand was saved up from earlier money so I could have just spent it previous and when it came up I would have been in the same situation.

Oh and the government knows about it, you are allowed to have six grand before they do anything. The last thing you do is quit the dole as you put it, a load of people who received redundancy did the same thing you suggest, thing was they could have protected the money and set themselves up using it. Theyre probably still stuck on basic social security.

If I hadnt spent it I would have had £7,000, still not enough to wipe out benefits, I would have lost a tenner a week up until the point that it dropped a bit, every £100 spent would have been one less pound removed.

So now could you stop being a holier than thou idiot and ask before you assume something that isnt right? I certainly havent been covering this up on here, if you look back through the threads its all documented.

Quote from: SeriousYou dont get very far on a thousand quid these days

True enough, but you didnt only get £1000, and youre not exactly a big spender.

Quote from: SeriousGot several thousand after my mother died

Quote from: SeriousI probably have practically the lowest spending rate on this forum, I get £47 a week excluding the money I have in reserve and dont always spend all of it...

By your own claims, that 7k could have lasted you 2.8 years at your current rate of expense.  Lets say youre basically ignoring the fact that your 47 a week doesnt include council tax etc etc.  Youve still got over a year and a half of not claiming benefits.  You totally fail to see the point - you could have survived like that and you should have.  It would certainly be harder on you to drop out of the system for 12 months and live off savings (I dont deny that for even a second).  But thats the whole point!  The systems meant to be a last possible safety line not just a better option because its easier than living off savings.

QuoteIf I hadnt spent it I would have had £7,000, still not enough to wipe out benefits, I would have lost a tenner a week up until the point that it dropped a bit

Boo f**king hoo tbh.  Youd have lost a tenner a week.  You could have survived quite comfortably for a while and thats what its meant to be about.  Can you survive without full benefits?  Yes it would have eaten into your savings... But thats the same for everyone who spends more than theyre earning.  When you cant possibly survive thats the point the beneifts system should kick in.  The very fact that throwing away £2k on things you dont need was the better option is exactly whats so stupid!

I think you are so buried inside the system you dont even engage your brain anymore....

You had 7k.
Your living costs are basically nothing.
You could have lived on that money instead of the state for a while.
Instead you chose to essentially throw away 2k so you could keep claiming.
Now youre winging that someone points out how retarded that is.

Frankly, its a good job youre on benefits and the system exists because with that mentality youd die in the real world.


PS:

Quote from: SeriousI would have lost over two grand for a gain of one

Its not your 1k or 2k in the first place...  Your inheritance was your money.  The other money you supposedly "lost" wasnt yours to lose.  It was a gift from everyone else in the country on the condition you had no other way of staying alive.  The moment you got that inheritance you did have another way out.  Instead of using it as a way to lower everyone elses burden you made sure it didnt by wasting it.

OK lets start from the top, how many holidays have you had in the last ten years? I have had one. I suffered quite badly during it due to not being able to sleep, it was a nightmare. I dont run a car either, another legitimate expense I could buy.

How many times have you been to the pub in the last year? I have been once, and that was when my second eldest brother arrived here from his home in Australia. I dont drink much, I dont smoke so very little outgoings on that part. I dont pay rent because I own half the house as does my brother.

Next, while I could live for 2.8 years on the money what happens if the roof leaks or the central heating breaks down? We have to repair it ourselves meaning I have to pay half. The money now forms a reserve.

The big one, as the government know about it then it is obviously legal for me to have the money and draw the money Im getting. Thankfully Steve I am a genius Fishwick doesnt run the social security system or people might be having to sell their furniture to eat. Weak argument though it is it is still valid. I dont see you selling off the stuff you dont really need to feed the world.

The government says that legally I have to have X pounds a week and I dont even get that. I get 20% under subsistence level until I sort out the benefits problem. If its legally mine what are you gobbing on about?

Oh working it out, if you had worked for the last ten years and actually paid tax during the whole of that time you would have contributed to me rather less than one penny. Look in this thread.

http://www.tekforums.co.uk/posts/list/10078.page

I have given more than the entire population of these forums would give me in a hundred years, where is your donation? Or perhaps I should start calling you Mr Scroogewick?

   

Quote from: SteveF

QuoteDont know what I am going to do if they actually decide to publish the book I sent and its successful.

Id hazard a guess youll dump it into something so you can continue claiming and then complain how youre not allowed to have savings.

Going back to this. If the book is successful I would be effectively self employed you idiot. I couldnt put it into savings anywhere without the government knowing about it and I wouldnt want to.

At the point of it being successful I get to dump being on the social, a road mark that I hope to hit, although I cant guarantee getting there.

The comment, although originally intended as tongue in cheek, still stands. What do you think I would do with a hundred thousand squid after living off well under a hundred quid a week for so long? I would still be psychologically unprepared for any such happening. Even if I managed to spend £10K a year I would just be living on it for well over a decade because of the interest.  I really dont know what the hell I would do. I certainly wouldnt end up on a spending spree.

Think we have taken this thread far enough off topic. If you really want to argue about the money I get either put up a new thread elsewhere or go to PMs.

Instead of answering all your questions seperately...   The answer to the holidays and days in the pub is simple.  Every one of those holidays and days in the pub has been paid for by me being in work.  None of them have come from anyones pocket and I can only go because I was sat at a desk or in a meeting the month before.

I started writing a proper reply but screw it.  Go about your life however you please. I think dumping cash so you can kep claiming is wrong.  You think its fine and trying to justify it - whatever.  If you really think thats the right way to behave then we have no frame of reference to move forwards


FYI I raise comfortably more than your annual income for charity each year by sponsored events let alone what I give through the constant deluge of raffles, sponsor forms and charitable auctions I attend.  I just choose not to sponsor people I dont know on a forum.  Frankly if everyone starts posting sponsor forms every time we do a charitable event, this place will be flooded.

The comedy thing is the focus on our, as individual forum members, taxes paying for Serious existence. That does somewhat miss the point, in that its about every tax payers contribution, and the extra demand placed on that by people who are claiming benefits but are in a position not to be.

Also, anyone with literary pretenses Im sure would love the opportunity to stay at home and write at the governments expense, but frankly most of those people choose not to live like that and work for a better standard of living instead. So the whole, how many holidays have you been, how many times do you go to the pub argument is totally spurious. If you work for a living, you get to enjoy the benefits of your success, if you dont, then you get the opportunity to enjoy surviving.  

can i get a refund? i mean everyone pays vat, that gets swallowed by the big benefit bill.


back on topic,


If i splunk some money on a new 24" benq monitor, would i be able to flick between two hd devices willy nilly?

Quote from: SteveFFYI I raise comfortably more than your annual income for charity each year by sponsored events let alone what I give through the constant deluge of raffles, sponsor forms and charitable auctions I attend.  I just choose not to sponsor people I dont know on a forum.  Frankly if everyone starts posting sponsor forms every time we do a charitable event, this place will be flooded.

Yeah, but you are very open about and willing to diss them off like crazy. I paid my share of tax while I worked, thats the deal, if you can work you pay tax, if you cant then you get benefits. They dont ask you how much do you need either, or everyone would be saying as much as possible.

If your boss came up to you and said, well Steve, heres a thousand quid bonus, you wouldnt be refusing it. There are some on here who actively attempt to avoid paying tax at every opportunity.

So if you as a scientist invent a nice little cure to remove my pain then I will gladly go and do work, even if its something as interesting as stacking shelves in a supermarket. Until you manage to do that accept that I am ill and will take no more than a reasonable amount out of the pot.

My brother  who lives here certainly does pay tax. To be honest if he wasnt here I would be having a difficult time keeping going. I may be able to live on £47 a week but thats because I have a very minimalist lifestyle other than the TV and computer.

BTW you have PM.