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Started by bear, November 15, 2007, 07:12:36 AM

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Cypher

Quote from: EagleWhos using Vista and is not having any problems?  Many report an excellent experience with it.

Vista Buisness at work on a Pentium D and 512MB.

The occsaional niggles with shared printers and things, but other than that flawless.

Madrocker

Quote from: EagleWhos using Vista and is not having any problems?  Many report an excellent experience with it.

Ive been using Vista Ultimate for the last 4-5 months with no problems.
M3ta7h3ad "You've been blessed with a keyboard with every vowel and consonant in the english language... yet you type like a fool".

Eagle

^ Gaming too?

I ask because Ive gone for Ultimate 64bit.  The opinion here is virtually the polar opposite of OcUKs...  :?:  :?

Privateer

Its bloody hard work, copy ands paste from one disk to another gets blocked, you have to set permission, networking is difficult, you fart and Vistas allow window comes up, Vista is for IT experts, people like me really struggle, MS changed Vista to much.

I used to save my emails and every client was OK with it, Vista is different how stupid, I need my old emails, thats why XP will be my Number 1 client.
Even the shutting down on Vista is to small for me now, but thats my fault.

Rob

Quote from: mrt
Quote from: Rob
Quote from: neXusBeta Service pack 1 for vista is slowing machines by as much as 15%
Beta Service pack 3 for xp is speeding them up by as much as 30%
Did you just pull those figures out of your arse?

Rob ... I must have missed your 56 other posts.  Hello noob to Tek!  Have seen a few noobs signing up.  How did you hear about Tek?  :D
Well Ive been here a while actually - back when it was Big Forums and before that when it was the original Tekforums. Used to post as robinuk then RDoh and I was a bit more talkative in those days.

bear

Why get Vista when Windows 7 is out the second half of 2009 ? :D

neXus

Quote from: Rob
Quote from: mrt
Quote from: Rob
Quote from: neXusBeta Service pack 1 for vista is slowing machines by as much as 15%
Beta Service pack 3 for xp is speeding them up by as much as 30%
Did you just pull those figures out of your arse?

Rob ... I must have missed your 56 other posts.  Hello noob to Tek!  Have seen a few noobs signing up.  How did you hear about Tek?  :D
Well Ive been here a while actually - back when it was Big Forums and before that when it was the original Tekforums. Used to post as robinuk then RDoh and I was a bit more talkative in those days.

When you did post it would be nice to see better then
QuoteDid you just pull those figures out of your arse?

 :mutley:  :mutley:

Serious

Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Rob
Quote from: neXusBeta Service pack 1 for vista is slowing machines by as much as 15%
Beta Service pack 3 for xp is speeding them up by as much as 30%
Did you just pull those figures out of your arse?

No
Google you get slightly different figures depending who testing but I did make sure I said "up to"
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/11/26/windows-xp-sp3-is-fast-vista-sp1-not-so-much/
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-SP3-Twice-as-Fast-as-Windows-Vista-Leaves-Vista-SP1-in-the-Dust-72059.shtml

Lots of results on google about it

Think Rob has had his head shoved up his arse for the last few months, that is now common knowledge :lol:

Beaker

installing SP1 at the moment on my laptop.  Ive got my restore disks handy just in case.

neXus

Quote from: bearWhy get Vista when Windows 7 is out the second half of 2009 ? :D

Which is for ever seeming to be the case and if development goes on at pace even earlier
http://apcmag.com/7874/windows_7_to_be_released_next_year

Road map leaks for vista (longhorn) etc have all been correct in the past so defiantly hold this as water tbh
IF you google there are a lot of other leaks like the fact the other software development plans have been placed on hold as also other leaks have shown the windows team has been expanded

It does look like MS have gone "fine, vista is not what people wanted" but will never admit the cock up, like with ME I am sure later next year they will start calling it a platform for the future of the os etc.



The screenshot is 98% sure a fake but one rumour floating around is that the interface is much more of what games like WOW are with an interface system you can not only customise but have a coding system of your own, basically every aspect is a widgit/gadgit enclosed item to make your own interface.
Probably the case with it being full hog in development and scaled right back to have the old start bar as default etc by the time it comes to release.

At least we know the kernal will be cood and nippy

What people seem to know about 7 is..
http://apcmag.com/7668/beyond_vista_windows_7_what_we_know_so_far

Making the UI a separate affair would be a good thing, Be a gamer or not people who play or know of the game world of warcraft and for example know the interface is based on LUA and very much controlled by the user with addons and ways to adjust the interface to suit the user but still have boundaries and limitations put in by the game creators to prevent you doing things they do not want you to do

http://apcmag.com/6741/new_ui_for_windows_7
The people who changed the look of office in such a big way amid user input and what the user wanted things are now on the windows 7 team leading the way for a new interface and have been allowed to start from scratch so 7 could more then likely end up with what people like from windows and what they like of OSX with custom ui abilities

XEntity

I have just bought a new Vostro 1700 laptop from Dell on a special deal and came with Vista home Premium.

Two main things so far have really annoyed me, the constant do you want to run this program alert for basically everything, Im sure that if you add the time up over a year it would be emmence, maybe someone should make a program that works out the ammount of your time wasted clicking the anoying popup!

Secondly was the needlessly complex and messy layout of the wireless configuration screens, basically in XP you had 2 windows, 1 for connecting and one for configuring, Vista just seems to have loads of different screens, there was on that sort of resembled the the old screen but I havent got a clue how I got there and cant find it again!

Everything seems to have been split in to individual windows, rather than one with tabs!!! I just dont see what idiot designed the interface and thought all this would be a good idea! it just seems more confusing, and Im an IT tech, so who knows what this is like for new users! Linux seems to be a better interface than Vista... cant wait for them to bring on Windows 7.

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XE

Rivkid

Just tell them to keep supporting XP and be done with. Still love XP SP2.
Career, Wife, Mortgage... my sig was better when it listed guitars and PC's and stuff!

Beaker

Quote from: XEntityTwo main things so far have really annoyed me, the constant do you want to run this program alert for basically everything, Im sure that if you add the time up over a year it would be emmence, maybe someone should make a program that works out the ammount of your time wasted clicking the anoying popup!
Start Menu>msconfig>Tools>Disable UAC.  Job done.

QuoteSecondly was the needlessly complex and messy layout of the wireless configuration screens, basically in XP you had 2 windows, 1 for connecting and one for configuring, Vista just seems to have loads of different screens, there was on that sort of resembled the the old screen but I havent got a clue how I got there and cant find it again!
Big complaint form everyone I know this.  The XP one was slightly overcomplicated, but it was perfectly suited to doing something you rarely had to play with afterwards.  The Vista one is a real pain in the arse, and just checking now, looks like they havent made it any simpler in SP1.

QuoteEverything seems to have been split in to individual windows, rather than one with tabs!!! I just dont see what idiot designed the interface and thought all this would be a good idea! it just seems more confusing, and Im an IT tech, so who knows what this is like for new users! Linux seems to be a better interface than Vista... cant wait for them to bring on Windows 7.
According to MS its simpler for the end user.  What actually happened was MS probably pay their coders a bonus depending on how many lines they write, and their Interface Engineers by how much time they can justify on a the job.  Doesnt help for complexity.  

The real big issue i have is that with each iteration Linux and Mac interfaces because quicker and more streamlined.  Windows seems to get more complicated and boggier each time.

Quote from: RivkidJust tell them to keep supporting XP and be done with. Still love XP SP2.
*hugs XP64 Install*  Let them stop supporting Windows 2k3 before Windows 7 comes out if they dare.  Until that happens my XP64 install will tick along nicely.

Cypher

Quote from: XEntityTwo main things so far have really annoyed me, the constant do you want to run this program alert for basically everything, Im sure that if you add the time up over a year it would be emmence, maybe someone should make a program that works out the ammount of your time wasted clicking the anoying popup!

http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov

Serious

Quote from: BeakerAccording to MS its simpler for the end user.  What actually happened was MS probably pay their coders a bonus depending on how many lines they write, and their Interface Engineers by how much time they can justify on a the job.  Doesnt help for complexity.  

The real big issue i have is that with each iteration Linux and Mac interfaces because quicker and more streamlined.  Windows seems to get more complicated and boggier each time.

They used to pay on the quality of the code rather than the amount generated, the change seems to be the reason that M$ software has become bloated out of all comparison.

Programmers should work in a limited environment where memory and cycles are at a premium TBVH.