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Next Xbox 360 Designs are Jasper, Opus and Valhalla

Started by soopahfly, February 15, 2008, 15:31:56 PM

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soopahfly

QuoteThere is not one but two secret Xbox cats that Microsoft has kept in the bag. Currently there are three more Xbox 360 motherboards in the works right now. They are.. dun dun dun.. Jasper, Opus and Valhalla.

If you are skeptical about this keep in mind that Ive been early and correct about this stuff before.

The original Xbox 360 motherboard is called the Xenon with both a 90 nm CPU and 90 nm GPU, there has been system cooling revisions to it. Next was Zephyr motherboard with HDMI that was introduced with the Xbox 360 Elite and and some had newer "heat pumps". Currently on the market is Falcon with a cooler 65 nm CPU but still the same hot GPU as the Xenon.

Its well known that the next Xbox 360 motherboard is going to be Jasper and it going to have both a 65 nm CPU and a 65 nm GPU. Jasper is going to be a major advancement in reliability since it is going to run much quieter than previous Xbox 360 systems. Jaspers reliability is in part to the fact that there is no place on the motherboard that is going to be running as hot or as much power as previous Xbox 360 systems, also it might run a lot quieter since it will not need as much power. When Microsoft hired IBM and ATI to provide the original Xbox 360 CPU and GPU Microsoft put it in the contract so that the Xbox team will own the technology for the chips and can make subsequent reduced cost revisions to the chips. The Xbox one had leased technology from Intel and Nvidia and that is one of the main reasons for the change in CPU and GPU venders. Jasper is very real and they are testing prototypes right now. Word from Redmond is that progress on Jasper is going well and on schedule and you can expect it fall of 2008. My birthday is in October and I am probably going to upgrade to a Jasper Xbox 360 if my Xenon lasts that long.

Now on to the big news. Are you ready... cue dramatic music..

The next two Xbox 360 motherboard names are "Opus" and "Valhalla"!!!

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The Opus project is a "Falcon" generation motherboard designed to fit in a Xenon case. You can expect an 90 nm GPU but a 65 nm CPU. Opus solves a major hardware recycling and inventory problem since Microsoft currently has millions of used Xenon cases from RRODed dead systems and this lets them use most of the good parts from the millions of dead Xenons but with a newer tested more reliable motherboard.

There is no HDMI on Opus since the Xenon cases dont have openings for the port. Opus is a third generation Xbox 360 in the case of a first.

I would trust an Opus Xbox much more than a "zombie repaired" Xenon since you are getting a fresh motherboard. These will probably never be boxed and sold directly to the public in stores so the only way to get an Opus motherboard is to turn in a RRODed dead Xenon in late 2008 and you might get one returned. Opus is the "Zombie Xbox" killer. Its the recycle repair special and is the sort of repair and refurbished Xbox 360 that they should have had done in the first place.

Now they are also in the very early stages of designing the fourth generation Xbox 360 called Valhalla. Think Technoviking cool, we are your overlords.

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At the heart of a Valhalla Xbox 360 is a combined 65nm CPU and 65nm GPU on a unified super chip. This also would only need one cooling system and be much quieter and hopefully more reliable than previous Xbox systems (if they include hardware JTAG testing reporting into the design).

It is really early in the design process but there are engineers at Microsoft working on it as you are reading this. Heck they are probably reading this since this is the first that you are going to hear about Opus and Valhalla.

You can probably expect a price cut for Valhalla since it is going to be a major cost reduction.

Valhalla might be the final Xbox 360 motherboard design but that all might depend of the future progress of the third generation Xbox team (the Xbox 720 or whatever they call it) and the overall market success of the Xbox 360 platform.

Microsoft has planned on near annual changes to the Xbox 360 motherboard generation designs.

First was the Xenon motherboard from 2005-06, then followed by the Zephyr motherboard 2006-2007, then the Falcon Motherboard 2007-now. Probably later on this year we will see the Jasper Motherboard 2008-2009. Then then comes Valhalla the year four motherboard in late 2009 or mid 2010.

Oh yeah third generation Zunes are totally confirmed. Be on the look out for Orion.

Around 2011-2012 we might expect a third generation Post 360 Xbox but all I know is that its being worked on.

I wonder if they have started tapping my Xbox Live account after I started posting this stuff.

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Mardoni

Nice. *fingers crossed* my 3rd replacement Gen.1 holds out until the start of 2009 then :)

Clock'd 0Ne

Why cant they be releasing one in the next few months when Im looking to buy? Grr. :yarr:

Rivkid

Quote from: Clockd 0NeWhy cant they be releasing one in the next few months when Im looking to buy? Grr. :yarr:

lol - because all us current 360 owners would be mightily f**ked off if they released another model now!!
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soopahfly

QuoteI just want to point out that the Valhalla Xbox 360 is probably a year or so after the Jasper Xbox 360. After Jasper is out the door Valhalla is the next big thing for the Xbox 360 hardware team. If Jasper is going to be out in time for the holiday shopping season in October/November 2008 then Valhalla might be under the Festivus pole in 2009 at the earliest.

For the record I dont think that the development of Jasper, Opus and Valhalla had any impact on their supply problems keeping Falcon based Xbox 360s in store shelves. My theory is the supply shortage of Xbox 360s might be from the Chinese New Year vacations and all the Chinese assembly plant workers had the week off to play Halo and eat moon cakes. I am dead serious check the calendar dates and compare to the shortages. Chinese New Year is as big a really deal in Asia could affect production at the factories. It could just be as simple as the holiday break slowed production and the demand for Xboxes surpassed the supply. Happy Year of the Rat!

The names are usually from the project managers in the Xbox teams, I guess Robbie Bach has the final say but these names are never meant for public consumption. These are names to be thrown around in internal meetings and such. You will probably never ever hear the words Opus and Valhalla from official Microsoft PR sources. Also sometimes they shorten them to Xe, Ze, Fn, and then probably Js, Op and Ve but thats internal meeting stuff.

I do know some secret project codenames for some gaming accessories that they are working on. Expect to hear about some new Xbox 360 accessories by E3 Expo and PAX.

Now Microsoft is working on their IPTV system for Xbox 360 and its going to bedone in software or a breakout external box that plugs into the 360 via the USB ports in some markets like with British Telecom. It will let the 360 be used as a digital TV tuner if your local tv provider supports it and is broadcasting IPTV. So if they ever do an "Xbox Ultimate" it will be a hardware bundle and not new motherboard design.