Quote from: SeriousLots of peoples stuff doesnt though, thats what all the complaints have been about. There are bound to be some peeps who have no problems.

And there were the exact same complaints when 2000 came out, and when XP came out

The only difference? More people have computers nowadays, there are far more inexperienced users - more complaints and issues.

I must admit I have had issues with vista and hardware on a few machines which seem to like displaying bsods at random intervals. However once such hardware issues were resolved I had no issues.

Found this which made me laugh though!

Im replacing our work SBS server today from a Poweredge 4300 to a 840.

Main reason for the GB back bone and extra storage capacity.

Its not the first time Ive shifted mass files with Vista but I still cant believe how fn slow it is.  Its ludicrous.

The simple fact is, if your a IT buff of any kind, you really need to get to know vista now, as of june, we really dont have a choice in the matter and with the problems that SP1 is going solve and cause.  I dont think I have dealt with any client that has not given any negative feedback on vista, with at least 2 I can think of off the top of my head have demanded to be downgraded.

why do you need to shift any files to/from desktops if youre simply migrating a SBS

You should be able to do that with no downtime whatsoever, just use something like doubletake to copy your files with all perms or robocopy if you so desire

Because you cant just copy files from one SBS to the other since they are 10 servers in one including DHCP, which will clash with other DHCP server of the new SBS without messing around disabling DHCP or causing other problems.

If there is an easier way I wouldnt mind any suggestions on migrating from one 2003 sbs to another 2003 sbs?

Its just much easier to copy to a desktop or NAS and then onto the new SBS server.

I did actually end up using a program such as you described, more specifically VisaVersa.

Windows is more than capable of moving files within CMD if you use the right switches using the xcopy command and keeping file permissions.

no real problems with deactivating dhcp for a bit - shouldnt take more than 7 seconds

join new server to domain as a GCS member server, migrate exchange mailboxes, copy data, migrate your other services, move the FSMO roles and remove the old box from the domain

All going well you shouldnt need a minutes downtime and hopefully done in a few hrs depending on the size of the mailboxes and shares

Much quicker than copying everything twice surely?

The reason we do it that way is simply because we take out SBS servers completely configured.   The only thing we dont configure is e-mail retrieval and internet until onsite.  The quickest Ive migrated 8 desktops all profiles and files was about 3-4 hours.  

The time you save preparing the server works out about the same to doing a migration on site imo.

Another benefit is a fresh profile, although it annoys the end user seems to clear out a lot of old problems with the current profile.

Was Vista DOA?

Seems the next Windoze is under 2 years away, and there has been insufficient movement in the user base to make Vista worthwhile. TBH there is very little that makes Vista a worthwhile upgrade from XP, unless you like the window dressing.