Got to say that from the developer presentation, this certainly does look like a better way to communicate.

http://wave.google.com/

In short...
You create a thread (a wave) and decide who can participate in this thread.
As people reply / contribute to the thread the responses are relayed, in real-time, to all participants in the thread.

Its a very, very clever idea. Not just from the business collaboration front but for general commuinication too.

I cant see the point of fixing something thats not broken.

Sounds like a mash-up of email, IM and message boards.

But as Bacon says, theres nothing wrong with email for day to day comms. Wave might only really be of any use as an alternative realtime message board for groups and businesses.

Quote from: BaconI cant see the point of fixing something thats not broken.

Yeah, I dont know why we even bother with email. We should have just stuck with snail mail. Actually, the postal system is bollocks. Long live carrier pigeons.

Quote from: BaconI cant see the point of fixing something thats not broken.

So you would Go back to being in a Cave hunting? That was not really broken Or your vic20? That was not broken
Called Evolution of technology and communication.
In terms of business or personal use this sort of thing is massive

So original that the old Newsgroup service never picked up on this type of thing.  

No Really,


Honest,


Its never been done before,


Not even with Sharepoint Server,



Ever,


Its totally a new thing that Google Invented!

Quote from: BeakerSo original that the old Newsgroup service never picked up on this type of thing.  

No Really,


Honest,


Its never been done before,


Not even with Sharepoint Server,



Ever,


Its totally a new thing that Google Invented!

This is a problem.
Google did not invent this, they do not claim to, Twitter people like yourself moans has been done before.
Again - EVOLUTION.
This is taking what things or more then one thing has done and combining it with modern standards of thinking and code to create the next step in the functionality and ease of use. One of the number of things this does your are overlooking is the API and how you can use all this but the applications developed will use elements of this to do all manner of things as well as the site integration of the information.
Same with Twitter. Many chaps here do not get it, But then they just look at the twitter site and can not follow it. The API is what makes it amazing and how you use it and what applications and website uses exist because of it.

If you dont get why this would be useful, you obviously dont communicate about anything much more serious about when youre next going to the pub online. Once people get their around the problems this solves, its potentially massive.

As for sharepoint, the difference by the sound of it is that wave actually does something useful out of the box...

Nothing new

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As BigSoy Says..
Not to be funny but if you say this you basically do not understand what it is or can do.

I understand what it is and does, but I also understand that for most people, they wont move from email. The whole concept of starting a thread for people to join in...only really useful for groups and businesses. If someone wants to communicate to a small number of people about a party or whatever, they will just cc people in.

And yes, I would probably use wave if I could get colleagues on board, as it would be useful for planning and discussing research projects. The problem is getting them on board. I used the windows live space to store large files for a lecturer so that she could access them instantly, and that took a few days of refusing to come in to work with a memory stick for her to give it a go...

I agree that the major power of this going to be for people who in some sense "work" together - but you cant underestimate the size of that.

Plus, if it was seriously taken on board by business, that would be a massive step forward towards it becoming mainstream.

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Quote from: BaconI cant see the point of fixing something thats not broken.

Yeah, I dont know why we even bother with email. We should have just stuck with snail mail. Actually, the postal system is bollocks. Long live carrier pigeons.

IM = Instant Messenger. One more time INSTANT. So need to get cocky

It is just another option, it sounds fine to me, but I know I will never use it. If I wanted to IM someone I would IM them and if I wanted to e-mail them I would e-mail them. The biggest problem as has been said is that everyone who you want to contact has to use this one system. Where as I can e-mail someone who is using whatever he/she wants to use to get it.

It will become fairly common for this kind of thing to be used in the future but until it becomes a standard it is completely pointless outside of fixed company or friendship groups.

So, essentially, basically at the bare bones of this - this is simply a rich content email with several people ccd in. Wow.

The core audience for this are teenagers angsting to each other, and for people who spend all day on social networking websites, or discussing the new iphones ability to turn on and off with a newfangled idea called a button

These teenage audience applications are not the future. Cloud operating systems and virtualisation is the future. Developers need to stop messing about with stupid childish colourful bullsh*t like this, facebook and twitter, and get on with shifting computing up into the cloud.

In 10-15 years time you wont have a computer in the home - youll have a barebones terminal - and you will rent or buy space on machines in the cloud - all part and parcel of your monthly ISP bill.