Mac really is just as insecure as the latest windows in similar areas as well. People just do not tend to be bothered to target Mac when they create their Trojans etc.
Mac OSX Snow Leopard Is as stable/unstable as Windows 7. So these days there is no real difference there. I love windows 7 for a number of reasons but I love the user experience on my macbook pro. In terms of applications though the mac is second to none.

Quote from: soopahflyI still dont see where the price difference is justified though.  The motherboard is Foxconn/Asus, Processors are Intel, and graphics are Nvidia.  I wouldnt pay the difference for a pretty case.

Its not that its pretty, its quality. There is zero flex in the body, no joins except for the bottom panel, the screen is glass, which is strong and easy to clean, the trackpads are beyond compare, the keyboard is a joy to type on. To quote Steve Jobs (who else?) "Most people make the mistake of thinking design is what it looks like... People think its this veneer -- that the designers are handed this box and told, Make it look good! Thats not what we think design is. Its not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works."

Quote from: soopahflyThe latest OSs dont randomise the system addresses like Windows/Linux/Unix meaning that if a hacker wanted to gain access, he knows exactly where to hit the system.

That attack vector requires local access to the machine, which means either via another vulnerability or getting the user to run it. Its something that should be changed, but is an extremely minor threat (doesnt mean non-existent)

Quote from: soopahflyI think they still rely on security through obscurity, as not many viruses will be written for such a small user base.  If they get a larger userbase, I think they will get a shock.

Im calling bullsh*t on this (as I do every other time its rolled out). It works on the assumption that hackers these days are only in it for further gain and that none of them are in it for the "lulz". I dont believe for a second that if there was a genuinely widespread exploitable hole discovered that someone wouldnt attack it just because they could, to stick it to Mac users and to make a name for themselves in the black hat community.

Quote from: soopahflyApple have overtaken Microsoft as the industry bully.

No arguments here, but since developing Stockholm Syndrome Ive been fine with it

Some articles Ive been reading over the last few weeks


"Snow Leopard fails to convince CIOs to adopt more Macs"
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=2803&tag=nl.e101


Security Concerns.....
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10318943-245.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/172197/vista_windows_7_are_more_secure_than_snow_leopard.html

Quote from: soopahflyApple have overtaken Microsoft as the industry bully.

explain pls, not sure what you mean.

If I wanted to spend more for my hardware than normal, Id be getting one of these:
http://www.very-pc.co.uk/broadleaf

The new Broadleaf ones are carbon neutral + 20% after the 5 year warranty has expired and almost 100% recyclable.

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Quote from: soopahflyApple have overtaken Microsoft as the industry bully.

explain pls, not sure what you mean.

http://www.macworld.com/article/59914/2007/09/newms.html

I dont have a specific problem with macs, i just will simply never use one because i dont need to, windows works fine for me

what really really annoys me is mac users constantly droning on about how good macs are and that you shouldnt be using a PC and windows is evil. its like theyre trying to convert more people to the steve jobs religion, maybe macs send out a mind control wave forcing every user to try and convert non users so that steve jobs can buy another liver when his new one fails

Bottom line. If id have wanted a mac, i would of bought one. I dont tell mac users to buy a PC so if they tell me to get a mac i will tell them to f**k right off

ditto with linux

Think of it like a BMW driver telling you you should get a BMW instead of a Ford, they both do basically the same job, but the BMW driver used to drive a Ford and knows how much nicer it is in BMWland

(please dont start any "Id rather have a Ford than a Beemer" arguments, you know full well the point Im making)

Surely the better comparison would be VW and Audi?

The comparison doesnt work, BMWs are expensive to service, maintain and parts are very pricey. Theyre driven by pretentious pricks who think that theyre better than anyone cause they have a BMW. plus the staff at BMW dealers are twats

Fords are cheap, the parts are cheap, servicings cheap and car reviewers usually give them top marks for reliability, practicality and some of them look nice. They do exactly the same as a BMW and more. but ford dealerships arent that great either

Looking at that though............maybe it is a good comparison

A good point actually.

When we went to buy our accord, we had a budget of £10k.  We were interested in seeing a 320D estate.
I was just asked to leave when I entered the BMW dealership (non mini dealership).

Their loss.

My mates dad went to Volvo in his scruffy scrapyard clothes and asked to test drive an 850 T5R.  They reluctantly said yes.
The next day he turned up in his Vx GSI3000 and paid cash.

You were actually asked to leave the dealership? On what grounds?

Dunno, must have not liked the cut of my jibb.

I only asked why they were so difficult to use...

Tbh you should have known better, there are certain questions for different places which always kick up a can of worms. Techy places its macs vs pcs. Carnivorous plants its religion it seems. (dont ask).