I suspect youre being massively naive if you dont think theyre doing everything they can to get it fixed - if no other reason than theyre going to be liable beyond the £75m standard liability cap so itll cost them potentially a sh*t load of money.

Problem is its basically an unforeseen failure type, presenting a massive engineering challenge to get it fixed.

Id be interested to know the updated figures for stats such as these:

http://seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov/OCEAN_PLANET/HTML/peril_oil_pollution.html

I remember from uni being told how the largest amount of oil pollution doesnt come from the oil spills. I think this is a bit of a biggy though ><

Quote from: BigSoyI suspect youre being massively naive if you dont think theyre doing everything they can to get it fixed - if no other reason than theyre going to be liable beyond the £75m standard liability cap so itll cost them potentially a sh*t load of money.

Problem is its basically an unforeseen failure type, presenting a massive engineering challenge to get it fixed.

£75 million to an oil company! Shock.  

We will end up paying for it in the long run when they hike up oil prices.

Top Kill = Failed

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Quote from: BigSoyI suspect youre being massively naive if you dont think theyre doing everything they can to get it fixed - if no other reason than theyre going to be liable beyond the £75m standard liability cap so itll cost them potentially a sh*t load of money.

Problem is its basically an unforeseen failure type, presenting a massive engineering challenge to get it fixed.

£75 million to an oil company! Shock.  

We will end up paying for it in the long run when they hike up oil prices.

Thats the standard US corporate legal limit of liability... read a bit of information stead of commenting in a place where you hope people wont know enough to call you on your bullsh*t...

They were "cheap" to begin with, using a cheaper but riskier method to connect a risk which turns out to be very costly. If they spent more building the rig this might not have happened.

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Quote from: BigSoyI suspect youre being massively naive if you dont think theyre doing everything they can to get it fixed - if no other reason than theyre going to be liable beyond the £75m standard liability cap so itll cost them potentially a sh*t load of money.

Problem is its basically an unforeseen failure type, presenting a massive engineering challenge to get it fixed.

£75 million to an oil company! Shock.  

We will end up paying for it in the long run when they hike up oil prices.

Thats the standard US corporate legal limit of liability... read a bit of information stead of commenting in a place where you hope people wont know enough to call you on your bullsh*t...

Excuse me? Call me on my bullsh*t? No idea what your going on about. I was merely saying £75 million is hardly a lot of money to an Oil company.

I.E. Do a google search for "Microsoft fined". £200 million+ and lets face it, the stuff they get upto isnt ruining the planet.

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Quote from: BigSoyI suspect youre being massively naive if you dont think theyre doing everything they can to get it fixed - if no other reason than theyre going to be liable beyond the £75m standard liability cap so itll cost them potentially a sh*t load of money.

Problem is its basically an unforeseen failure type, presenting a massive engineering challenge to get it fixed.

£75 million to an oil company! Shock.  

We will end up paying for it in the long run when they hike up oil prices.

Thats the standard US corporate legal limit of liability... read a bit of information stead of commenting in a place where you hope people wont know enough to call you on your bullsh*t...

Excuse me? Call me on my bullsh*t? No idea what your going on about. I was merely saying £75 million is hardly a lot of money to an Oil company.

I.E. Do a google search for "Microsoft fined". £200 million+ and lets face it, the stuff they get upto isnt ruining the planet.

Agreed £75m isnt going to bust them... but liability for the whole thing is on a whole different scale which is what the Americas are potentially talking about.

I was going on about the fact you were making completely unfounded insinuations that they werent trying hard enough to fix the problem - which shows a huge lack of understanding of the technical challenge theyre trying to overcome with this.

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Quote from: BigSoyI suspect youre being massively naive if you dont think theyre doing everything they can to get it fixed - if no other reason than theyre going to be liable beyond the £75m standard liability cap so itll cost them potentially a sh*t load of money.

Problem is its basically an unforeseen failure type, presenting a massive engineering challenge to get it fixed.

£75 million to an oil company! Shock.  

We will end up paying for it in the long run when they hike up oil prices.

Thats the standard US corporate legal limit of liability... read a bit of information stead of commenting in a place where you hope people wont know enough to call you on your bullsh*t...

Excuse me? Call me on my bullsh*t? No idea what your going on about. I was merely saying £75 million is hardly a lot of money to an Oil company.

I.E. Do a google search for "Microsoft fined". £200 million+ and lets face it, the stuff they get upto isnt ruining the planet.

Agreed £75m isnt going to bust them... but liability for the whole thing is on a whole different scale which is what the Americas are potentially talking about.

I was going on about the fact you were making completely unfounded insinuations that they werent trying hard enough to fix the problem - which shows a huge lack of understanding of the technical challenge theyre trying to overcome with this.

I put a question mark after my comment on the end of page 1. From what ive read on other sites it seems pretty open ended and its just dragging along. I posted a link above which states this issue was known about a year ago.

You can read this link and the link to CNN from that page.

This is getting a bit serious for Waffle!  

Quite exciting atm - the robot arm has a buzz saw thingy on the end cutting into the box the oil/smoke is coming out of (you can tell Im an engineer )

Sweet, robots.

I think BP should be liable for the entire cleanup, even if its £3bn+. That will dramatically alter any cost benefit analysis that oil companies do in the future and help to make rigs safer.

No, theyll just ramp up the prices of oil to cover it. Other oil companies will be happy to follow suit, coming up with reasons to justify it, just so they can make more money.

Quote from: zpyderNo, theyll just ramp up the prices of oil to cover it. Other oil companies will be happy to follow suit, coming up with reasons to justify it, just so they can make more money.

That was my thought exactly.

they are doing sh*t with a robot thing now on that cam.

I say they take off, nuke the site from orbit.

Its the only way to be sure.