Quote from: Dave on September 06, 2011, 00:21:32 AM

Quote from: neXus on September 05, 2011, 20:33:09 PM

Quote from: Nimrod on September 05, 2011, 15:38:46 PM
The Wordpress advice is good but I'll repeat the warning I was given.

Once you're beyond the basics, you can spend as long modifying the template as you would coding it up yourself.

And I will say what I always say -
If you want to develop site and want anything more the basics then you need to know to web design and develop - or go to a professional.
Just the same with plumbing etc. You do some things on your car, you can get better but when you need something done proerly you go to a mechanic.

Do not get me wrong, we all start somewhere but there are people who do not expect or want to get their hands dirty as it were. If your willing then there is no problem
We have to compete with people using things like Adobe MUSE. Because people do not know the web and they get sold by marketing bullcrap they get ripped off and get sh*te websites by these cowboys. There are way to many of them.

Well those professionals all had to start somewhere - its not like there is some institute with a royal charter and professional exams involved here.... I'm interested in learning a bit about webdesign in the process and the fact is that I will likely want to tinker with stuff. Then again I guess I should learn to use some sort of CMS.

I am quite interested in what you guys tend to use - especially people like Nige/Nexus - do you guys use wordpress etc.. ?

I would not recommend Joomla, to much bloat etc these days.
Wordpress to start with and when you know more php etc magento and drupal on the PHP side.

Cheers for the replies - not sure I'd ever likely need an e-commerce solution but I'll certainly look into Drupal.

Would it not be a bit of a faff to start with wordpress then later try to manage the site with a different CMS once I know more PHP?

Are there advantages to Drupal over wordpress and if so (given that this is just a couple of pet projects and not anything with a deadline etc..) would it not be better for me to learn php and then start constructing a site.

Learning PHP is overkill. Understanding it is not difficult, actually setting out to write PHP though is a much bigger undertaking. You're far better off just sticking to the core of HTML/CSS and tweaking the PHP of the CMS if necessary. IMO

It's funny really, coming from a development background I find all the PHP/backend stuff easy going. It's the front end "fluffy" stuff that I end up spending all my time on :/