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Started by Quixoticish, April 19, 2012, 16:13:45 PM

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Quixoticish

I've recently gotten back into archery and I was wondering if there were any other bow and arrow enthusiasts on the board?

If so what and where do you shoot?

Clock'd 0Ne

I've always had a passing interest in it, but never turned it into any kind of hobby. I did a bit at school and some at events where I've done alright (all longbow), so I'm not a bad shot either, pretty consistent overall.

zpyder

Used to be in Bournemouth archery club as a youngster, tried to get back in to it last year, but time and costs made it a short lived venture.

Eggtastico

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I love my cider & darts

Mongoose

I used to shoot recurve until I went to Uni, was reasonably good at it at one point. I haven't done it for years though

Eagle

I have my own recurve but not done it in a while.  I hate target, flight and field.  Prefer people.

Quixoticish

Quote from: Eagle on April 28, 2012, 20:28:12 PM
I have my own recurve but not done it in a while.  I hate target, flight and field.  Prefer people.

Our little informal archery group draws straws. If you get the shortest you have to get padded up in a gambeson, fencing mask, and padded gauntlets and run around like a loon in a field a hundred yards or so away while the rest of the group wails on you with rubber blunted arrows. Moving targets are much more fun, and it makes clout shooting rather interesting. Lighter poundage bows only, of course.

addictweb

Quote from: Quixoticish on May 02, 2012, 11:44:35 AM
Quote from: Eagle on April 28, 2012, 20:28:12 PM
I have my own recurve but not done it in a while.  I hate target, flight and field.  Prefer people.

Our little informal archery group draws straws. If you get the shortest you have to get padded up in a gambeson, fencing mask, and padded gauntlets and run around like a loon in a field a hundred yards or so away while the rest of the group wails on you with rubber blunted arrows. Moving targets are much more fun, and it makes clout shooting rather interesting. Lighter poundage bows only, of course.

Haha! This sounds amazing. I'd definitely be more keen to have a go if I was shooting at a person.
Formerly sexytw

zpyder

Quote from: Quixoticish on May 02, 2012, 11:44:35 AM
Quote from: Eagle on April 28, 2012, 20:28:12 PM
I have my own recurve but not done it in a while.  I hate target, flight and field.  Prefer people.

Our little informal archery group draws straws. If you get the shortest you have to get padded up in a gambeson, fencing mask, and padded gauntlets and run around like a loon in a field a hundred yards or so away while the rest of the group wails on you with rubber blunted arrows. Moving targets are much more fun, and it makes clout shooting rather interesting. Lighter poundage bows only, of course.

I'd love to see the A&E report when something goes wrong :D Makes me think of that Magic missile Cops spoof :D

Eagle

Quote from: addictweb on May 02, 2012, 12:17:37 PM

Haha! This sounds amazing. I'd definitely be more keen to have a go if I was shooting at a person.
Try airsoft skirmishing if you like to hunt people.  :thumbup:

neXus

Globally this is on the increase thanks to the Hunger Games movie. Lots of people wanting to give it a go.

Quixoticish

Quote from: neXus on May 07, 2012, 01:53:04 AM
Globally this is on the increase thanks to the Hunger Games movie. Lots of people wanting to give it a go.

My local club has seen a huge boost in membership thanks to the Hunger Games but sadly most of the joiners have already fallen by the wayside and aren't sticking with it. Such is the way of things, it always happens when there's something archery related going on in Hollywood.

neXus

That will happen too sadly.
People need to learn and practise to get good but everyone sees something and thinks its easy or or think, if she trained to do that for the movie it must be easy etc.
Like playing a guitar your fingers and hands need to harden up for Archery and you got to fight through the pain for a while. And if you got no arm muscles to build that up etc.
To hard for most.

Serious

#13
The main reason that archery lost out against guns was the amount of training required, a professional had to go out every day and shoot from being a child in order to build up the body strength and aim required. Unfortunately a lot of new pastimes appeared and people started to find using a bow repeatedly no longer held their attention.

Guns, although they had a much shorter range, were easier to fire and had better armour penetration that wasn't affected by strength of the user's arms. They might not have been as accurate as a bow over a longer distance but they could make up for that with simple numbers firing.

Quixoticish

Quote from: Serious on May 08, 2012, 04:17:52 AM
The main reason that archery lost out against guns was the amount of training required, a professional had to go out every day and shoot from being a child in order to build up the body strength and aim required.

This is a fairly common misconception. People did practice archery from a young age but more because it was a fun and entertaining thing to do that had practical value that was actively encouraged by the crown, this ensured that there was a large amount of skilled bowmen should the situation arise in the future.

You don't need to train all day every day from a child to pull a fairly heavy bow. Most modern target longbows are in the 35-40lb range, anyone of reasonable health should be able to pull them, and any healthy adult should be able to pick up a 60lb bow and draw and loose that with no worries as long as they have reasonable technique and have been practising on a lighter bow for a month or two. I've only just gotten back into archery (six months) and I'm already up to a 100lb warbow, and I've just placed a deposit on a 150lb self yew warbow that I'm fairly confident I'll be pulling in another six months time. This is a fairly good approximation of the estimated draw weight of the majority of medieval war bows. So from a cold start and practising twice a week for a couple of hours, and having the odd all-day session when the weather was good in just over a year I'll have gone from 35lbs to pulling 150lbs, and I'm in no way shape or form fit, healthy or in any kind of shape. And bear in mind your average medieval gent was far healthier and stronger than the vast majority of modern people because life simply demanded it.

I don't deny that it took training and practice to become skilled with the bow, much more than the often inferior firearms that initially replaced them, but it certainly wasn't required to start from being a child to build up strength.

There are a lot of urban legends about medieval archery (having to train all day every day to become strong enough, the obligatory "V" sign coming from archers having their fingers cut off if captured by the enemy, skeletons of bowmen being disturbingly deformed because they'd been pulling heavy draw weights all day every day, etc) and most of them are just that; legends.