Quote from: ERU on November 20, 2012, 22:07:56 PM

Quote from: zpyder on November 20, 2012, 19:25:12 PM
Any thoughts on this?

Use a laptop/netbook? I'm amazed at how people really have to 'find' reasons to buy tablets. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? No one gave a dime about them until Apple marketing came along.

I'm not trying to find a use for one, I have a use for one, and want to know which one best fits my needs.

We're planning on travelling Canada and/or Europe next year. I have 8kg of photography equipment that pretty much takes up my entire hand luggage. I cannot take my 5kg laptop with associated chargers. It would be very useful to have something small and light which I can use every so often whilst travelling to manage the photos I have taken, either by pruning the bad ones, or uploading to flickr to free up space. It would also be useful to use for keeping in touch with friends and family.

It's sort of a logical progression to make, as I have a Kindle for my books, and my Galaxy S3 is almost a mini-tablet size device as it is, but the small size makes it difficult to do anything quickly or easily. I have a lot of colour text natural history reference ebooks which obviously my kindle doesn't like either.

The Nexus 10 would be ideal if it had expandable storage, but it doesn't.

Try a kindle fire? Cheap enough to try & see if the android os does what you want.
I got an ipad & iphone. Dont use the phone for anything except making calls & texting. The ipad has made it reduntant in everything that i used the phone for.I also now have an imac & macbook.

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
I can barely manage with my touchscreen phone, I couldn't get any real work done on a tablet, its okay if you use one as a business support to send the odd emails or view someones Word document they sent you but as ERU pointed out I can't do anything like heavy typing like web design or Photoshop design work, not in any productive fashion. This is why when people talk of 'death of Intel' and 'death of the PC' they are being stupid, offices everywhere still need proper computers, even in Star Trek they still use terminals.

In Star Trek the padd had the same interface as the terminals they used on the walls.

Emails, word documents and excel documents I edit on my iPad from time to time. Granted would I get an iPad if I needed a laptop, no. But having an iPad I genuinely cannot remember the last time I logged onto my computer in the house, I don't need a pc to respond to emails I don't need one to browse the web effectively and I don't need one to watch YouTube, etc... It's pretty much everything I need In a small, handheld device.

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
I can barely manage with my touchscreen phone, I couldn't get any real work done on a tablet, its okay if you use one as a business support to send the odd emails or view someones Word document they sent you but as ERU pointed out I can't do anything like heavy typing like web design or Photoshop design work, not in any productive fashion. This is why when people talk of 'death of Intel' and 'death of the PC' they are being stupid, offices everywhere still need proper computers, even in Star Trek they still use terminals.

I'm not sure how this will pan out long term if I'm honest. Bear in mind you're a huge minority of users requiring web design / photoshop etc... 99% of users need office and perhaps the odd business app and they're all going web based anyway. To put some context on that - we have over 400 users (currently on Dell laptops and iPads) and of those 400 only 1 has anything other than the standard stuff and he's a graphic designer with a macbook and adobe master suite. Everyone else could easily use a tablet / other thin client device without any negative impact other than 'getting used to it'. Everyone said the mouse was a gimmick too....

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
I can barely manage with my touchscreen phone, I couldn't get any real work done on a tablet, its okay if you use one as a business support to send the odd emails or view someones Word document they sent you but as ERU pointed out I can't do anything like heavy typing like web design or Photoshop design work, not in any productive fashion. This is why when people talk of 'death of Intel' and 'death of the PC' they are being stupid, offices everywhere still need proper computers, even in Star Trek they still use terminals.

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
I can barely manage with my touchscreen phone, I couldn't get any real work done on a tablet, its okay if you use one as a business support to send the odd emails or view someones Word document they sent you but as ERU pointed out I can't do anything like heavy typing like web design or Photoshop design work, not in any productive fashion. This is why when people talk of 'death of Intel' and 'death of the PC' they are being stupid, offices everywhere still need proper computers, even in Star Trek they still use terminals.

I'm not sure how this will pan out long term if I'm honest. Bear in mind you're a huge minority of users requiring web design / photoshop etc... 99% of users need office and perhaps the odd business app and they're all going web based anyway. To put some context on that - we have over 400 users (currently on Dell laptops and iPads) and of those 400 only 1 has anything other than the standard stuff and he's a graphic designer with a macbook and adobe master suite. Everyone else could easily use a tablet / other thin client device without any negative impact other than 'getting used to it'. Everyone said the mouse was a gimmick too....

Actually you're right there the majority of offices I've gone to all use sun or wyse thin terminals with VMware view clients.

Maybe I am a dying breed of niche requirements, but I can honestly say I've tried very hard to get into the kind of mentality for smartphones and tablets and I've yet to find one that I don't find too cumbersome in some way vs a full keyboard/mouse combo. I can fully imagine after an extended session of editing a spreadsheet on one I would want to snap the sh*t in half. I don't even use my laptop unless I have to because it doesn't provide the kind of quality experience that I get from a full base unit and a nice big screen. I also maintain that most offices are not actually very productive enviroments

Still, I'm not so inclined as to believe that there aren't plenty of industries that still require proper workstations and not just clerical/admin type work. Maybe statistics could prove that wrong.

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 21:57:17 PM
Maybe I am a dying breed of niche requirements, but I can honestly say I've tried very hard to get into the kind of mentality for smartphones and tablets and I've yet to find one that I don't find too cumbersome in some way vs a full keyboard/mouse combo. I can fully imagine after an extended session of editing a spreadsheet on one I would want to snap the sh*t in half. I don't even use my laptop unless I have to because it doesn't provide the kind of quality experience that I get from a full base unit and a nice big screen. I also maintain that most offices are not actually very productive enviroments

Still, I'm not so inclined as to believe that there aren't plenty of industries that still require proper workstations and not just clerical/admin type work. Maybe statistics could prove that wrong.

i would hate to use my ipad as any sort of computer replacement. same as you, I hate laptops & only use one for the bare minimum. tablets are good for surfing the web, looking at a tv guide, etc. Best used as a finding information tool. Its my TV remote, my cookbook, my accounts package (intergrates with a desktop version),  my web browser, email/rrs reader, etc.

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 21:57:17 PM
Maybe I am a dying breed of niche requirements, but I can honestly say I've tried very hard to get into the kind of mentality for smartphones and tablets and I've yet to find one that I don't find too cumbersome in some way vs a full keyboard/mouse combo. I can fully imagine after an extended session of editing a spreadsheet on one I would want to snap the sh*t in half. I don't even use my laptop unless I have to because it doesn't provide the kind of quality experience that I get from a full base unit and a nice big screen. I also maintain that most offices are not actually very productive enviroments

Still, I'm not so inclined as to believe that there aren't plenty of industries that still require proper workstations and not just clerical/admin type work. Maybe statistics could prove that wrong.

you aren't wrong mate, just for general web use which is mostly what I do with my home computer aside from a bit of gaming, and I'd be willing to bet your parents do much the same thing at home, a tablet makes perfect sense.

It's great for media consumption, but you're right it's not a work replacement thing, mind you I'm not sure that it was ever trying to be that, well aside from the grandiose iPad adverts that suggested you could edit presentations seamlessly, yeah you can do it. But it's not as easy as a keyboard and mouse.

I am getting an iPad this week For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not

Quote from: bear on December 11, 2012, 21:09:57 PM
I am getting an iPad this week For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not

more importantly, since when are you a politician and what do you do ?

I'm now thinking an Asus transformer infinity, if I can  find one at not too bad a price.  don't think I can justify spending more on an android tablet than an iPad, despite the additional features.

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Quote from: knighty on December 12, 2012, 00:25:11 AM

Quote from: bear on December 11, 2012, 21:09:57 PM
I am getting an iPad this week For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not

more importantly, since when are you a politician and what do you do ?

For 12 years .
I do not know how to translate but in the county(?) I live in (about 10000 people large) I am in the city council (?) representing the lefttist party (vänsterpartiet) also in the board for building, environment and rescue. (MBR).

I like the I-pad better than I thought but the settings are meager and there is no kill all for started apps, the blue tooth does not work with my linux machines (have to use dropbox) other than that it is ok

Quote from: bear on February 13, 2013, 00:01:36 AM

Quote from: knighty on December 12, 2012, 00:25:11 AM

Quote from: bear on December 11, 2012, 21:09:57 PM
I am getting an iPad this week For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not

more importantly, since when are you a politician and what do you do ?

For 12 years .
I do not know how to translate but in the county(?) I live in (about 10000 people large) I am in the city council (?) representing the lefttist party (vänsterpartiet) also in the board for building, environment and rescue. (MBR).

I like the I-pad better than I thought but the settings are meager and there is no kill all for started apps, the blue tooth does not work with my linux machines (have to use dropbox) other than that it is ok

we call them councillors. People who sit on the local council representing the small part of the town they live in.

Quote from: Eggtastico on February 14, 2013, 07:41:14 AM

Quote from: bear on February 13, 2013, 00:01:36 AM

Quote from: knighty on December 12, 2012, 00:25:11 AM

Quote from: bear on December 11, 2012, 21:09:57 PM
I am getting an iPad this week For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not

more importantly, since when are you a politician and what do you do ?

For 12 years .
I do not know how to translate but in the county(?) I live in (about 10000 people large) I am in the city council (?) representing the lefttist party (vänsterpartiet) also in the board for building, environment and rescue. (MBR).

I like the I-pad better than I thought but the settings are meager and there is no kill all for started apps, the blue tooth does not work with my linux machines (have to use dropbox) other than that it is ok

we call them councillors. People who sit on the local council representing the small part of the town they live in.

I am not representing a part of the town I live in, the municipality has 6 towns, I represent the left party in the municipality which have 2 out of 35 mandates.  It is called municipality I think, not county my wrong. There is 13 municipalties in Östergötland County mine is called Kinda
http://www.kinda.se/turism/informationinenglish.4.6e89e88e12e7bcdeae08000255521.html