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Started by redneck, June 02, 2006, 23:29:33 PM

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Beaker

Quote from: redi need a native x86 environment to run 3dsmax otherwise it will take weeks watching the render go. i dont want to waste that much of my life watching something render.




i did include a nsfw warning.

i dont control peoples urges to explore the internet neither do i dress them.

dual boot OSX with windows?  Grub is a wonderful thing

redneck

then i would need an x86 intel machine. bit more complex than that mate as i would want stability to match my 8 year old mac.

Beaker

Quote from: redthen i would need an x86 intel machine. bit more complex than that mate as i would want stability to match my 8 year old mac.

well you dont get that with even the last PPC Macs off the line.  The old ones where built to last.  The G3 i had is now being used by someone else and its rock solid.  The G4s a mate has crash nastily at least once a month.

redneck

it depends on how you use it man.


i need something with grunt to cope with rendering. its a massive thing i have to look at. i would adore the new macbook but i cannot justify it.

so pc building here i come :(

i have one sitting under my bed collecting dust which needs a monitor an a nic :D

Beaker

Quote from: redit depends on how you use it man.


i need something with grunt to cope with rendering. its a massive thing i have to look at. i would adore the new macbook but i cannot justify it.

so pc building here i come :(

i have one sitting under my bed collecting dust which needs a monitor an a nic :D
_might_ have a 17" TFT soonish.  Needs me to tinker and see if i can fix the power plug 1st.  Ill give you a shout if i get it, but i doubt ill see it before Sunday.  

redneck


SteveF

FYI - I have a little mac mini amongst many other machines.  It boots OSX and windows when needed and is rock solid and cheap.  Get the faster processor and a gig of RAM and its been fine for 3d work and photoshop as its x86.

(Actually its pretty much now running both operating systems simultaneously and opening windows apps in osx at full speed but its not fully supported yet so occasionally have to actually boot into windows proper - itll probably be in the next version of OSX by the looks of things).

Might be worth considering...  Its on 100% of the time playing movies and music while downloading and not even faltered once under application load.  Plus if youve been using an old MAC for a while OSX 10.4 and the ilife 06 are pretty swish upgrades from what youll have.

redneck

mate try rendering a 30 minute film, with 50 fps. each frame is 40 meg.


each frame takes 2 hours to render.

i need a quick machine. the only thing which matters is processor speed

a mac mini would be nice :o how would you go about bootin eggsp pro

Serious

So thats 120GB per minute or 3,600GB for your 30 minute film, mate stop being stupid with numbers, nothing on earth is going to be able to play that sort of thing.

You would need EIGHT 500GB drives to store it.

redneck

no silly

thats rendering each frame as a tiff, doesnt mean you need to keep them after 100 frames,

you then convert that into video every 100 frames to save space. space isnt an issue its processing power which i am after.

something with grunt is needed...

Beaker

Quote from: redmate try rendering a 30 minute film, with 50 fps. each frame is 40 meg.


each frame takes 2 hours to render.

i need a quick machine. the only thing which matters is processor speed

a mac mini would be nice :o how would you go about bootin eggsp pro
apple already have a piece of software that allows you to booth either OSX or another OS of your choice.  

SteveF

Quote from: redmate try rendering a 30 minute film, with 50 fps. each frame is 40 meg.
There are lots of things that are significantly more CPU consuming than rendering from a 3d modeller...  You just run them longer or create a batch job and send them to a commercial cluster service like IBMs who will crunch the data in a matter of minutes which may take a home PC a few weeks of calculating.

Quotea mac mini would be nice :o how would you go about bootin eggsp pro
The next version of OSX will natively run windows and apple apps seemlessly but right now apple provide a piece of software called bootcamp.  Download it from apple:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

Put in your windows CD, install windows, boot wither windows or OSX.  Thats pretty much it really.

You can use other software to run windows and osx simulataneously (netiher emulated) using one processor core in charge of each OS and sharing the workload but thats not particularly simple yet.

Clock'd 0Ne

Is a 400mhz system any use to you, red?

Serious

Quote from: Clockd 0NeIs a 400mhz system any use to you, red?

What an ideal time to use the new :rofl:

Serious

Quote from: redno silly

thats rendering each frame as a tiff, doesnt mean you need to keep them after 100 frames,

you then convert that into video every 100 frames to save space. space isnt an issue its processing power which i am after.

something with grunt is needed...

So what resolution are you actually using?