some pics from Science Museum, South Kensington, London


Rover Jet 1, the turbine car that broke the speed record at 152mph.










The Rover Safety Bicycle, the first Rover! and the First rear wheel chain driven modern bike.

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Good to see they couldnt put them together properly back then either.

looks strangly reminisent of a planes dashboard with all those guages on it, no wonder they didnt sell to the public  

By the way, did I mention how UTTERLY APPALLING Rover were at doing anything meaningful with the jet turbine?  The govt. gave them sole control to do what they wanted with it and they just stood around with their cocks in their hands for years.  Thank feck for Rolls Royce  :shock:

Quote from: funkychicken9000By the way, did I mention how UTTERLY APPALLING Rover were at doing anything meaningful with the jet turbine?  The govt. gave them sole control to do what they wanted with it and they just stood around with their cocks in their hands for years.  Thank feck for Rolls Royce  :shock:

your talking crap, in the 3years that rover where in charge of developing the turbine engine (rolls-royce where asked and refused, too busy with their v12s) they produced 3 types of engine. The first(W2) was made via whittles plans, and it was crap, then they made some alterations themselves and the W2B was much much better.

That was then the govt gave them control and they produced the B26 which was pretty good apparently and went on to become the Rolls Royce Welland after rover passed over the project(in exchange to rights for the meteor engine) in 1942.

then in 1945 after the war rover started looking at putting the engines in cars, they did 4 iirc. Jet1, T3, T4 and the BRM.

No.  Rover produced NOT ONE SINGLE useable plane with a jet turbine, despite whittle having done all the work for them.  They kept making changes to the design to try and avoid patent fees, the vast majority of which caused the engine to stop working.

Rover were absolutely useless.  They had no idea what they were doing with regard to the technical side, and they were woefully unable to produce parts that were of even half decent quality even when given all the technical data.  

I know its hard for a rover fanboy to admit, but Rovers jet turbine development was quite frankly an embarassment, even by their standards.

where are you getting this? like i said above the engine produced exactly to whittles specs was crap, very underpowered and suffered from surging.
 The engine resdeigned by rovers engineers was greatly improved. Although they caused alot of conflict with whittle and his team because he didnt agree with the changes. Rover where only interested in the project for 3years and passed on almost all the reasearch for RR to create the Welland.

Quote from: DEViANCEwhere are you getting this? like i said above the engine produced exactly to whittles specs was crap, very underpowered and suffered from surging.
 The engine resdeigned by rovers engineers was greatly improved. Although they caused alot of conflict with whittle and his team because he didnt agree with the changes. Rover where only interested in the project for 3years and passed on almost all the reasearch for RR to create the Welland.

Try reading some real history, rather than rover fan sites.  Rover dropped the project because they were doing appalingly.  Am I right in thinking they didnt get a single plane off the ground in the three years?  Whittle was a genius, Rover were hopeless.

+1 for fc9k


rover didnt contribute because they were trying to produce a profit. didnt work.

Rover approached the Jet engine with the "We Know how to build engines better" attitude.  Basically they thought they knew better than Whittle how to produce a jet engine.  The fact they put their early jet engines in cars rather than on planes suggests the way they wanted to take things.  They wanted a small jet turbine that they could use to power a car, RR wanted an engine they could drop in a plane and make it go very very fast.  

LOL only 20 mph faster than a Stanley Steamer 50 years before and the same speed as a Sunbeam with conventional power 25 years prior. :mrgreen:

Quote from: DEViANCEwhere are you getting this? like i said above the engine produced exactly to whittles specs was crap, very underpowered and suffered from surging.
 The engine resdeigned by rovers engineers was greatly improved. Although they caused alot of conflict with whittle and his team because he didnt agree with the changes. Rover where only interested in the project for 3years and passed on almost all the reasearch for RR to create the Welland.

QuoteIn 1941 Rover set up a new laboratory for Whittles team along with a production line at their disused Barnoldswick factory but they also set up a parallel effort with their own engineers at Waterloo Mill, Clitheroe. Here Adrian Lombard attempted to develop the W.2 into a production quality design, dispensing with Whittles "reverse flow" burners and developing a longer but simpler "straight-through" engine instead. Work at Barnoldswick continued on Whittles original design, now known as the W.2B/23, while Lombards new design became the W.2B/26. Whittle was upset by this course of events, feeling that all work should concentrate on producing a single design as soon as possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Whittle#Rover

Whittle pulled the plug on Rover and moved to Rolls Royce, who later sold a licence to produce their latest "Nene" engine to the Russians. It went straight into the MIG 15 and trounced the US planes in Korea until the introduction of the F-86. The Americans were not too happy about the engine deal  :mrgreen:

Quote from: maximusotterLOL only 20 mph faster than a Stanley Steamer 50 years before and the same speed as a Sunbeam with conventional power 25 years prior. :mrgreen:

Should I mention Americas Abrams main battle tank? Small turbine engine, huge fuel tank and thirst to make up for it.

Also vulnerable to an RPG in the butt.

Hey I work there!

I didnt even read anything just saw the picture and thought... "that looks v. firmilliar!"

Well.. thats my work so

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Quote from: maximusotterLOL only 20 mph faster than a Stanley Steamer 50 years before and the same speed as a Sunbeam with conventional power 25 years prior. :mrgreen:

Should I mention Americas Abrams main battle tank? Small turbine engine, huge fuel tank and thirst to make up for it.

Also vulnerable to an RPG in the butt.

And that has anything to do with the OP :shrug:

Enough with the "America Suxors!" BS. Even you bought into the *, just like poodle Tony.

Im third party to it all. :mrgreen: