Resetting up my disc brakes after cable stretch, and with Shimano its these steps.

Loosen 2 brake caliper bolts, insert Shimano TL-BR51 spacer between outside pad and rotor
Tighten wheel side pad till it touches rotor
tighten mount bolts
pull out spacer
back out wheel side pad a click or two.

Very very simple. Just happens that a matchbook cover is the perfect spacer. Found this out when I couldnt locate my old feeler gauges.

Hayes have a very simple method, too bad the brakes suck.

Losely put caliper on frame.
Squeeze lever with wheel in place,
Whilst squeezing, tighten bolts.

Release

Thats the way I tried adjusting the shimanos at first with no success. @#$%&*!!! brakes, then I got the official pdf, and its pretty much just as simple.

I do like those mech Avids with the red knurled nut on either side for trailside adjustment.

All you need is a chain fastened to the bike frame with an anchor on the end,  instant breaking

Quote from: SeriousAll you need is a chain hastened to the bike frame with an anchor on the end,  instant breaking

why would you want to break your bike?

My hope minis are still going strong.

My house mate and other friends of mine have Enduro 4s and 6 pot Hayes Magnesiums - yet they get nothing but problems with em, as they need constant tlc.

Iv hear great things about the Avid Juicys etc  - anyone tried any?

Quote from: maximusotter

Quote from: SeriousAll you need is a chain fastened to the bike frame with an anchor on the end,  instant breaking

why would you want to break your bike?

I was thinking more the user, and I wasnt being Serious  :mrgreen:

Quote from: krankedMy hope minis are still going strong.

My house mate and other friends of mine have Enduro 4s and 6 pot Hayes Magnesiums - yet they get nothing but problems with em, as they need constant tlc.

If youre using a 4 or 6 pot brake and not downhilling, its definitely too much hammer for the nail. Id be perfectly happy with the Deore mechanicals--on a regular ole crosscountry hard tail, tbh. No fuss really, I doubt Ill touch them again this year.

My Mini4s Rock the big oneoneone111!!!

Never too much power for the job in hand.  Although, I am 15st and a competent DHer
Avid Juicys are horrible.  bleugh.  Unmodular and hard to set up.

With the new multipot hydraulics, its essential to make sure your frame and hubs are faced correctly, Your local bike shop should be able to provide this service.