QuoteWho cares? You cant analyse Star Trek; its so full of plot holes youll drive yourself insane picking it to pieces like that.

Indeed. Christ, surely the flying about blowing up planets while wrinkling your rubber brow is all a bit barmy anyway?

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QuoteWho cares? You cant analyse Star Trek; its so full of plot holes youll drive yourself insane picking it to pieces like that.

Indeed. Christ, surely the flying about blowing up planets while wrinkling your rubber brow is all a bit barmy anyway?

Yeah, well just leave that to Dubya and  the rest of the politicians...

Indeed, a single borg cube in one episode can take out an entire fleet of Federation ships. Yet the next episode Voyager somehow disables one on its own.

Star Trek : Armada 1/2 are good for a laugh, shows how pathetic some of the ships really are.  :mrgreen:

Matt Damon as Kirk, say it aint so

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Quote from: SeriousPhoton torpedoes are supposed to carry 1.5KG of antimatter, with a yield of about 64.5 megatons of TNT. One and its goodbye London, three would pretty much take out the UK. Note that Hiroshima was only about 10 kilotons in comparison

indeed, there are several occasions in TOS where a Constitution class starship is referred to as having enough fire power power to destroy an entire planet if necessary. In fact in STV Checkov points out that the approaching Klingon BofP is likely to destroy the planet, and a BofP is tiny by comparison to the Enterprise.

Not to mention Picard would never have had the brass ones to pull off the Corbomite Maneuver.

OK remove Star Trek geek hat, Im back to normal now.

But in TNG they seem shocked that a Borg can destroy an entire planet.
Since a photo torpedo cant even kill a ship usually, we have to ignore TOS on this one.

I wasnt going by TOS but by the fact files on the photon torpedo, a ship like the enterprise certainly does contain enough antimatter to make a planet uninhabitable. This doesnt mean reduce it to space dust, just kill everything on the planets surface. They rip most of a planets atmosphere off during one episode, Obsession, series 2.

Something changed during the first films for some reason, there was a claim that the phasers had gotten better when in fact they were worse. Kirks enterprise Koed ships with a few phaser blasts but by the time of The Wrath of Kahn it had gone completely down hill.

Basically what changed was that SFX got better and they wanted to use them.

In the TOS episodes where Enterprise engages Klingon cruisers it usually involves a couple of slavos each way because there is a limit to the number of times you can play that sequence of Enterprise firing her weapons in any given episode.

In the films you have 1980s/90s/2000s SFX available and can make clever looking phaser/torpedo blasts. The Wrath of Kahn would have been a very short film if the firepower levels from TOS had been maintained. Enterprise would have been destroyed in the first confrontation.

Even so in STVI Chekov comments that "if they (the klingons) fire with our shields down we will not be able to respond"

People over analyse star trek a lot. It doesnt take a lot of analysis to realise that the Klingon Bird of Prey varies in size by several orders of magnitude for no good reason. TBH I think its time we all just went and watched Galaxy Quest, it has fewer plot holes.

I still love ST btw, I just think a lot of fans take it too seriously. Now if youll excuse me, Im off to watch an episode of TOS season 3.

Quote from: SeriousPhoton torpedoes are supposed to carry 1.5KG of antimatter, with a yield of about 64.5 megatons of TNT. One and its goodbye London, three would pretty much take out the UK. Note that Hiroshima was only about 10 kilotons in comparison

Sounds very knowledgeable for a man who cant work out the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek (note his signature)

Good video on the updates they have done to TOS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp70DS7FBqk

TOS Remastered opening titles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5YCACHWO4Y

Preview of a Remastered episode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvWlooME0V8

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Quote from: SeriousPhoton torpedoes are supposed to carry 1.5KG of antimatter, with a yield of about 64.5 megatons of TNT. One and its goodbye London, three would pretty much take out the UK. Note that Hiroshima was only about 10 kilotons in comparison

Sounds very knowledgeable for a man who cant work out the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek (note his signature)

Look at the start of First Contact, during the battle for earth between the Borg cube and Federation fleet, if you are really good you will spot the Millennium Falcon speeding through.

/polishes new brownie point

The sig but is only there to irritate trekheads and the like. Wouldnt be you would it?

Quote from: SeriousThe sig but is only there to irritate trekheads and the like. Wouldnt be you would it?

The sigs of lonley old men on the internet dont irritate me, no.

 Oh, and...

ooh, blobby    

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Quote from: SeriousThe sig but is only there to irritate trekheads and the like. Wouldnt be you would it?

The sigs of lonley old men on the internet dont irritate me, no.

Trolls as sad as you never really bothered me either. Especially not when they hide behind a different name than they previously used.

Ive just checked your previous posts, my what a lot of five star posts, even when there is naff all in them. So you have learned to put up a second ID and vote your own posts up. Grief you must have been lonely to bother doing that.

Also in the scene in the nBSG mini series where Roslin goes to see her Doctor the Serenity from Firefly flys past the window.

I knew about the TOS Enterprise in the RTF(rag tag fleet)scene but not the Millenium Falcon in the First Contact battle scene even though I have it on DVD and have seen it a fair few times.