QuoteWE HAVE NEVER USED A NUKE IN A WAR YET! So one or four hundred, it will not make any difference. The only reason we have got them was in case the Soviets invaded Europe and America tried to duck out of the situation. We could fire ours at Russia meaning they would have to fire theirs at us and the US and the Americans would have to reciprocate. TBH if you did use the lot then the radioactivity will be coming back to you anyway.

Basically you are all scaremongering things that are extremely unlikely to happen.

Actually serious if you even bothered to read what Id initially posted in this thread Im in favour of getting rid of them, they are a tremendous waste of money which would be better spent in other places, I firmly believe that the wasted on Vanguard from the defence budget can be spent on more important things for the armed forces. I was just questioning your rather ill-informed google-intellect.

To sum up: the word "deterrent" has become de rigeur when describing nukes. When we drop this artificial meme and look at the reality of everything--this is completely without merit. They dont deter a thing--the "safety" which they give us is purely illusional--and a quite old, ratty and tatty set of smoke and mirrors at that. Its not 1960 anymore. Its not about two huge empires facing off. An ICBM isnt the weapon you need to disarm a religious fanatic with a razor blade. Its pointless firepower and far more a liability than anything else.

When I went to grade school in the 70s, we were the last of a couple of generations of kids to do nuke drills, to "duck and cover" in the hall, and to watch a film narrated by a cartoon turtle showing us how to survive a nuclear blast. Even as young kids, and despite the cartoons, we were horrified by this ominous threat, and I remember the ice in my stomach every time we hear the siren and did one of the drills.

The mere existence of nukes of any sort is a crime against humanity. Bin them. Fight wars if you must, but do it on a scale thats not that of God himself.

Quote from: Dave(Im only in favour of retaining the deterrent for the next few decades and then reassessing it later with a view to getting rid of nukes btw..

But by then youve spent the money. I just think its a huge waste of money, and you know what, it might give us a little bit of the moral high ground when preaching to Iran.

Quote from: maximusotterWhen I went to grade school in the 70s, we were the last of a couple of generations of kids to do nuke drills, to "duck and cover" in the hall, and to watch a film narrated by a cartoon turtle showing us how to survive a nuclear blast. Even as young kids, and despite the cartoons, we were horrified by this ominous threat, and I remember the ice in my stomach every time we hear the siren and did one of the drills.

I watched similar films in the UK, and the general consensus was what bloody good will that do? Well all be dead anyway.

You cannot win a nuclear war, the best you can do is postpone it indefinitely. In that nukes work, both sides are too terrified to use them in large numbers, and because of the possibility of escalation they havent been willing to use them in any number.

Nukes are terror weapons, they terrorise people with them just being there, they dont have to do anything.

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QuoteWE HAVE NEVER USED A NUKE IN A WAR YET! So one or four hundred, it will not make any difference. The only reason we have got them was in case the Soviets invaded Europe and America tried to duck out of the situation. We could fire ours at Russia meaning they would have to fire theirs at us and the US and the Americans would have to reciprocate. TBH if you did use the lot then the radioactivity will be coming back to you anyway.

Basically you are all scaremongering things that are extremely unlikely to happen.

Actually serious if you even bothered to read what Id initially posted in this thread Im in favour of getting rid of them, they are a tremendous waste of money which would be better spent in other places, I firmly believe that the wasted on Vanguard from the defence budget can be spent on more important things for the armed forces. I was just questioning your rather ill-informed google-intellect.

I was answering the specifics of the post and nothing else

Id gladly pay more income tax if the extra money went straight into the MOD

Of course we should have nukes.

All the Nations with Nuts in Charge seem to have them.. USA, China, Korea, Pakistan, India,etc.


so why not us?

I was going to add my 2p to this, but since recieving a job offer from a missile company I should probably keep it to myself  :shock:

Quote from: EggtasticoOf course we should have nukes.

All the Nations with Nuts in Charge seem to have them.. USA, China, Korea, Pakistan, India,etc.


so why not us?

Missed out Russia BTW

Becoming paranoid again by the look of things.

Quote from: funkychicken9000I was going to add my 2p to this, but since recieving a job offer from a missile company I should probably keep it to myself  :shock:

ehehehe

MBDA are supported by the idiots where I used to work, be prepared to get very very annoyed at the pure muppetry and stupidity.