Quote from: SeriousIf the door is unlocked then its trespassing, if they damage your property to enter its breaking and entering. By not taking the wallet it does reduce the crime though, from theft to taking without consent. IIRC.

That was it.  It doesnt count as theft it counts as taking without consent.  Madness.

They took the car keys without consent so it is theft?

apparently not

They took the key ring that was attached to the keys? and your Germs, without consent...

Quote from: SteveFapparently not

Got to love English law, where Dumb ass Judges have no sense of the real world and theft can be re classed depending on the time of day

Personally Id have done him for trespassing on the property in the first place.  Criminal damage to the window and frame.  Breaking and entering the house.  Theft of the keys and then taking the car without consent.

But apparently it all comes under the minimum charge due to the daylight and only taking the keys.  Thats retarded.

Starting to get very sick of not having a car!

Once the Volvo is taxed you can use that

hehe yeah  Camo transport lol

Quote from: SteveFhehe yeah  Camo transport lol

Atleast youd be able to see it on the road if some one were to steal it

Or maybe not

oddly enough... I was talking to a girl today whos just starting her first job after law school.... and she says shes heard of this daylight thing, but its bollocks, its not actually law, its just by the policy of some police forces to cut down to paperwork etc !

(lazy buggers)

god almighty - car insurance companies are rubbish.  You owe them a penny and theyre calling you 1000 times a day and writing you letters.

After claiming and sending all of the paperwork, keys, etc etc Id heard absolutely nothing for weeks.

Called them at start of the week and they claimed the paperwork hadnt arrived.  Pressed the point and low and behold they found it.  Called them again a week later only to find they required me to walk them through the accident and repeat all the info Id sent them in the post.  They hadnt rang me to ask me for it or sent me a letter to tell me they needed it.

Its so frustrating.  Just send me the frikken pitiful excuse of an insurance value or at least tell me when theyre at a standstill and ask me anything they need.

Crooks the lot of them.

Quote from: SteveFgod almighty - car insurance companies are rubbish.  You owe them a penny and theyre calling you 1000 times a day and writing you letters.

After claiming and sending all of the paperwork, keys, etc etc Id heard absolutely nothing for weeks.

Called them at start of the week and they claimed the paperwork hadnt arrived.  Pressed the point and low and behold they found it.  Called them again a week later only to find they required me to walk them through the accident and repeat all the info Id sent them in the post.  They hadnt rang me to ask me for it or sent me a letter to tell me they needed it.

Its so frustrating.  Just send me the frikken pitiful excuse of an insurance value or at least tell me when theyre at a standstill and ask me anything they need.

Crooks the lot of them.

Why I am waiting to see all the stories in regard to the flooding in terms of excuses for them not to pay out to people.
Your 100% right and they are very much above the law, take your money and it is dam ni on impossible to get your money when needed OR it takes an arm and a leg to get them to do it.
Messing you about loads mate :/

Being without a car for over a month is just stupid.  Commuting by bus and train got so annoying I just moved house.

Quote from: SteveFPersonally Id have done him for trespassing on the property in the first place.  Criminal damage to the window and frame.  Breaking and entering the house.  Theft of the keys and then taking the car without consent.

But apparently it all comes under the minimum charge due to the daylight and only taking the keys.  Thats retarded.

Starting to get very sick of not having a car!

Cant see that being right.. They are prosecuting at the minimum charge simply to solve the case, get a conviciton & get a mark on their targets. Id press for a private prosecution if the CPS aint going to do anything. Sounds like a Pro & your car wont have been the first & probably not his last.

Whats going to happen next time if you get the scumbag before hand? knowing hell only get a slap on the wrist your gonna kick f**k into him thats what.. then that sends you down to nick while the scumbag sues you for lost of earnings & damages....
THIS COUNTRY GRRRRRR

Quote from: SteveFBeing without a car for over a month is just stupid.  Commuting by bus and train got so annoying I just moved house.

Why dont you get yourself a cheap banger? Can normally get somthing 1/2 reliable for £500 - make it a diesel & use home made biofuel. Should pay for itself soon enough.