Hi all,
Looking for macro or wide/fisheye capabilities with my Fuji s5600 Ive seen :
http://cgi.ebay.com/0-42X-FishEye-Lens-Macro-FOR-Fuji-S5600-S5200-S5100_W0QQitemZ300152609666QQihZ020QQcategoryZ106848QQcmdZViewItem
but hear bad things about cheap sh*t. Any suggestions for better quality kit?
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Ive heard that Raynox are the ones you want. Although camera not really designed for attaching lenses. I was tempted to get one of them for mine, but was put off. If you do get one however, do tell me if they are any good as I would probably buy one if it is.
Ok Ive found an ebay seller offering the macro kits (and also an LCD protector too which seems like a great idea!) so next payday (25th) Ill order one of each and take some shots. Just bear in mind Im a sh*t photographer!! :D
Cool ... if you could post some of your pics showing a with/without lense, that would be very much appreciated. Just take some test shots, so then noone is gonna judge em anyway. I want a projector too! Cheers!
Quote from: mrtIve heard that Raynox are the ones you want.
I have a Raynox 2.2x converter for use on my FZ20, they are better than the other makes I have seen, except for the original Panasonic one which is far more expensive. The only issue is that you have to zoom in almost completely to avoid vignetting at the corners. At wide angle you can see a complete circle. OTOH it does give me a 950mm equivalent lens for relatively little money.
In order to use a wide angle you have to zoom in so that the angles work properly, otherwise you would get a severe vignetting problem. This can lead to other issues and the use of a fisheye converter is relatively limited anyway so I never bothered to get one.
its the macro Im getting not the wide angle or fisheye
Dont bother.
Raynox DCR-250 is the macro lens you need. LCD protector... piece of cheap tat.
If you want to play with macros and want to save money buy some 55mm close up filters from 7 day shop.
I own both a 1.85x teleconverter, and a 0.72x wideangle raynox - Would avoid non-brand stuff on ebay like the plague.
ROFLMAO: "Titanium 0.42X Super Wide Angle Lens with Macro (FISHEYE) (RETAIL PRICE - $399.99)" for a sh*t no-name wide angle lens... I think they must have smoked the ganja before they wrote that advert.
Quote from: M3ta7h3adDont bother.
Raynox DCR-250 is the macro lens you need. LCD protector... piece of cheap tat.
If you want to play with macros and want to save money buy some 55mm close up filters from 7 day shop.
I own both a 1.85x teleconverter, and a 0.72x wideangle raynox - Would avoid non-brand stuff on ebay like the plague.
Yeah thats the one I was going to get - no good?
If you want macro close up try getting a reversing ring and use any 50mm SLR lens that has the same size filter ring as your camera. There are also adjustment rings so you can use different sized lenses.
I know there are some people on here who have used this technique on SLRs so it should be easily workable on yours too.
Macro filter lenses from 7dayshop is another option that has been mentioned and works.
Raynox stuff is OK.
Quote from: RivkidQuote from: M3ta7h3adDont bother.
Raynox DCR-250 is the macro lens you need. LCD protector... piece of cheap tat.
If you want to play with macros and want to save money buy some 55mm close up filters from 7 day shop.
I own both a 1.85x teleconverter, and a 0.72x wideangle raynox - Would avoid non-brand stuff on ebay like the plague.
Yeah thats the one I was going to get - no good?
The one you linked to in your original post isnt a RAYNOX.
Its a "titanium" whatever the heck that is.
DCR-250 will produce some amazing pictures. Check out:
http://www.s5000.net/ and the forums there for comments about things for your camera.
Photo "snipped" from S5000.net forums.
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k148/awolford/092306023.jpg)
Thats the kind of picture you can get with it, and my camera :) and I have just a plain S5K... not an S5K6
Quote from: SeriousIf you want macro close up try getting a reversing ring and use any 50mm SLR lens that has the same size filter ring as your camera. There are also adjustment rings so you can use different sized lenses.
I know there are some people on here who have used this technique on SLRs so it should be easily workable on yours too.
Macro filter lenses from 7dayshop is another option that has been mentioned and works.
Raynox stuff is OK.
I was about to suggest this trick.
The shorter the lens the higher mag youll get. You get better quality with primes, but Ive had some success in the past using a 35-80 zoom. This has the advantage that you can use the zoom ring as focus control.
So having looked at the Raynox DCR-250 macro lens and also some 55mm close up filters (a set of +2, +4 and +10), which is better? If anyone has any of these items below, could you take a before and after photo using a S5600/5000/5200 ... really would like to see if they are any good.
The filter set can be had for just over £10 ... seems like cheap tat to me? or am I wrong?
Had a look at the Raynox which can be had for about £25, is it a major improvement?
If you cannot take any samples, how about giving them a scale of 1-10. So S5600 on its without anything with Macro function turned on is a 1 and 10 is an outstanding Macro shot, where would you rate the filters and the macro lens?
I know its only a tenner, but its still money I would prefer not to waste. Really want a D40 but monies are not available for one just yet.
Also, can someone recommend me some filters that are a must have? Someone said to get ND filters and nothing else? From what I can gather you can use them in stages to gradient skies? Polarising filters to enhance colour? Any others worth buying/a look at?
Cheers all
ps. hope you dont mind me hijacking your thread, although may be relevant useful to others
Buy the 250... close ups are good, but not that good, you have to stack them up to make em count really. The DCR-250 just shines.
Filters... Must haves.
- UV filter to protect your lens from general crap. I leave mine on constantly, that way when im taking photos of the sea, or in the rain or whatever, its the £3 filter that gets dirty, not the lens of my camera.
- Polarising, good for darkening skies, making blues pop, taking photos through windows, or through water (eliminates reflections completely in some cases)
- ND, Use it for bright sunlight situations, and those times when you want a little longer shutter time during dusk or in daylight.
If you want gradient skies, use photoshop/gimp or buy a set of gradient filters.
Most of the effects from "warming" and "cooling" filters and other colours can be done in photoshop, and are very much pointless for use on a digital camera.
My kit bag consists of a UV, ND 4, Close up filters, and a polarised filter, a DCR-720pro, a DCR1080pro,Id get a 250 if i had the cash.
Thanks ever so much for all the info! Very much appreciated!
Just out of interest, what are
DCR-720pro, a DCR1080pro lenses?? Is one a zoom and one a wide angle?
Have just bought a DCR-250 from the bay for £25 ... quite excited now!! Have had a look at www.s5000.net in the discussion boards and done a search for DCR-250, some very impressive photos that people have taken using it. Absolute bargain if it get anywhere near as good!
Thanks again for the recommendation!
Need to investigate some filters now. Can I check, are Hoya ones the best ones to go for? Seem to be hundreds, ranging in different prices and manufacturers. Do you get what you pay for?
Hoya are nice, with fancy coatings, but I have some from Hama, Hoya, with filters its much of a muchness. Though 7dayshop is the place Id go to get them.
oh and yes... 1080pro = 1.8x teleconverter.
-720 pro = 0.72x wide angle
Superb stuff! Cheers!
Am excited as the lense should be arriving today. Will post some pictures as and when I have some available.
The S5000 site has some tips and stuff with using it, and are quite friendly to newcomers :) Read their guidelines however before posting in the forums :)
Quote from: M3ta7h3adThe S5000 site has some tips and stuff with using it, and are quite friendly to newcomers :) Read their guidelines however before posting in the forums :)
Yeah, was looking at the site yesterday actually. Really cool little forum they got going. Would be nice to have a mod here who could expand the photography section. Be nice to get some stickies as I have loads of resources which would be of use to others.
Ordered mine this morning also from the bay. Looking forward to playing around with it! :D
rivkid, what did you go for in the end? the DCR or the telezoom/wide angle job? Did you choose the Raynox one?
I have just bought a random selection of cheapo filters from 7dayshop to try out, UV, ND, Circ Polar, Blue gradient one and two others. They were only about 5pounds each.
Quote from: mrtQuote from: M3ta7h3adThe S5000 site has some tips and stuff with using it, and are quite friendly to newcomers :) Read their guidelines however before posting in the forums :)
Yeah, was looking at the site yesterday actually. Really cool little forum they got going. Would be nice to have a mod here who could expand the photography section. Be nice to get some stickies as I have loads of resources which would be of use to others.
yeah, they sometimes annoy me somewhat with their naive take on things computery. But you just have to remember that they are photographers, not computer wizzkids :)
I dont really post there anymore to be honest but they are still the first port of call Id go to if ever I needed a suggestion or help with any S5K camera.
Have been really pleased with the S5600 ... had a few teething problems to begin with. Photos were coming out quite grainy looking when you zoomed into them compared to a little Nikon point and click I had. Although after having a read up on it, the S5600 apparently does not apply as much "in camera" processing to the images, which is meant to allow greater control for those who "post process", may just be rubbish, although being one who does "post process" I do agree. For the money you cannot go wrong.
I have just noticed the S5700 is going for £112 from amazon, was tempted to sell mine and add the difference. Although not sure what it gives other than a jump of 2 on the megapixels? Slightly nicer looking though, I think.
Quote from: mrtHave been really pleased with the S5600 ... had a few teething problems to begin with. Photos were coming out quite grainy looking when you zoomed into them compared to a little Nikon point and click I had. Although after having a read up on it, the S5600 apparently does not apply as much "in camera" processing to the images, which is meant to allow greater control for those who "post process", may just be rubbish, although being one who does "post process" I do agree. For the money you cannot go wrong.
I have just noticed the S5700 is going for £112 from amazon, was tempted to sell mine and add the difference. Although not sure what it gives other than a jump of 2 on the megapixels? Slightly nicer looking though, I think.
Think it has a 10x zoom like mine too. Think yours has like a 6 doesnt it?
Quote from: mrtthe S5600 apparently does not apply as much "in camera" processing to the images, which is meant to allow greater control for those who "post process", may just be rubbish, although being one who does "post process" I do agree. For the money you cannot go wrong.
this isnt rubbish, the good bridge cameras and the DSLRs are all the same in this respect. The DSLRs tend to produce a cleaner raw image because they have a larger sensor to play with.
Point and clicks tend to boost saturation and contrast as well as applying loads of noise reduction. This produces a passable picture straight from the camera with no need to even load photoshop, but its dumping information in the process which could potentially make a better image with a little work.
the bridge and DSLR cameras give you so much more artistic flexibility.
Everyone is of the opinion on that forum (and I tend to agree to be honest) that the S5K series of cameras all produce their best work when set to RAW.
If fuji RAW wasnt such an arse to work with (only supported in CS2 and some other apps... as opposed to Windows XP RAW Thumbnailer [so no preview capability in windows explorer]) Id use it constantly. I do use it for any photos I want to take and keep forever mind.
Good to hear that it is not rubbish. My S5600 has a 10x zoom too! (well I am pretty sure if has). Anyone know what the benefits of a S5700 are over the S5600 other than megapeeexels?
lol probably best place to ask is that s5000.net :) because I dont see anything Id buy it for.
Quote from: mrtrivkid, what did you go for in the end? the DCR or the telezoom/wide angle job? Did you choose the Raynox one?
I have just bought a random selection of cheapo filters from 7dayshop to try out, UV, ND, Circ Polar, Blue gradient one and two others. They were only about 5pounds each.
The raynox dcr. I thought I would get more use out of it than the others
Quote from: RivkidThe raynox dcr. I thought I would get more use out of it than the others
So, how have you got on with your Macro lense? Must say I have not had much chance to do much with it but have to say its incredibly good for how much it cost. Only annoyance I have is that because the way the zoom on the camera works (digital zoom, two buttons) it takes ages to set up the tripod zoom the correct level and focus. I find setting the camera up at a set position and then moving the item I was playing with into focus easier/quicker. Very impressed though. Some shots to follow.
Thats the best way of doing it. Zoom in to adjust the max/min aperture you can get on your camera, like mine on full telephoto goes from f2.8 - f8 but on wide goes from f3.2 - f9.
Then either shove focus on manual and move your camera closer and further away to get the correct focus, rather than relying on actually focusing with everything staying still.