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Title: Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 16, 2010, 16:26:46 PM
Sigma 150-500mm f5-6.3 DG OS HSM Lens - Canon Fit

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-sigma-150-500mm-f5-6-3-dg-os-hsm-lens-canon-fit/p1025305

If I dont buy it now I never will.
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Kunal on September 16, 2010, 16:38:23 PM
Nice.

Are you using it on a crop body? If you are thats 800mm!!
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 16, 2010, 17:06:52 PM
Canon 40D, so it will be effectively a 240-800mm  :twisted:  :w00t: . Will be sharing the use of it with my bro.
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Eggtastico on September 16, 2010, 17:52:55 PM
lock up your mothers & daughters.. or at least make sure the curtains are closed...
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: XEntity on September 16, 2010, 18:31:14 PM
Nice, let us know how it works out, youve got a monopod already havent you? Think you are going to need it :P
Title: Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Binary Shadow on September 16, 2010, 21:23:29 PM
Very nice, ill probably be getting one so will be interested to see what the images are like with it

its either that or this:

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-Sigma-50-500mm-f5-6-3-DG-OS-HSM-Canon-Fit/p1519637?cm_mmc=GoogleBase-_-Camera-Lenses-_-Canon-Fit-_-Sigma-50-500mm-f4-5-6-3-DG-OS-HSM-Canon-Fit_1519637
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 17, 2010, 02:07:14 AM
Ive got a 28-135mm Canon lens so buying this makes more sense. Its also considerably cheaper.

Both are supposed to be very good.
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 17, 2010, 15:26:44 PM
Arrived this afternoon so first thoughts...

1 Its big, much bigger than the other lenses Ive owned. It makes the 75-300mm look titchy in comparison

2 Its HEAVY! When I got the D40 I fixed my brothers kit lens on it and that was so light the camera seemed back heavy. It sorted out when I put the 28-135 on instead. This... Well... The camera seems to vanish under the sheer weight of the lens! Im not saying its out of balance, just you dont notice the camera.

3 It seems fast and focuses well on the few shots Ive taken.

4 Did I say its big? Wont fit inside the normal bag I keep my camera and more normal sized zoom in. TBH they supply a custom padded box to carry it in.

Will hopefully be giving it a more thorough testing this Sunday.
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: zpyder on September 17, 2010, 15:56:06 PM
Ive wondered about the lenses that are so big they need to be mounted to tripods directly...at what point do you mount the lens rather than the camera, whichever is heaviest?
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 17, 2010, 16:19:02 PM
The way you mount it depends on whether theres a mount provided on the lens. This one has a mount, and needs it. Two factors seem to be involved, weight of lens and length. A long light lens can stress the camera mount more than a short heavy one. Theres also the issue of balance when mounted on a tripod. A lens like this would spend its time pointed at the ground if you could fasten it on the camera mount. I wouldnt risk that, the lens weighs nearly 2KG, camera is much lighter.
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: zpyder on September 17, 2010, 17:49:43 PM
I get that, but what about lenses where theres no mount on the lens, but theres a part of the lens shaped/designed for a lens mount should you want/need it? Does it add any real benefit? My 100mm macro is like this, but its not that heavy/long...
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 17, 2010, 18:05:19 PM
Simple way to judge, does the camera fit on the lens or the lens on the camera?

All my old lenses the Lens fits on the camera, so I use the cameras mount. This one the camera fits on the lens.
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Eggtastico on September 17, 2010, 18:28:40 PM
Quote from: zpyderIve wondered about the lenses that are so big they need to be mounted to tripods directly...at what point do you mount the lens rather than the camera, whichever is heaviest?

yup
Title: Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Binary Shadow on September 17, 2010, 23:59:11 PM
sounds much like my sigma, very heavy, tripod mount on the lens, own carry case.

The larger lenses even have their own straps to take the weight off the camera when carrying them around.
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 21, 2010, 01:20:35 AM
This one does have its own strap, I wouldnt use the camera one and Im very reticent about putting the strap for this lens around my neck!
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 23, 2010, 23:41:13 PM
Took this out today for a try. Unfortunately ended up with some dreadful weather, dank, cloudy and rain. Did get some reasonable images though. A couple of examples.


(http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q429/Seriouswebspace/Heron.jpg)
Heron was cropped but then needed some post processing, mostly gamma correction and a little sharpening, probably overdid the sharpening very slightly.
(http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q429/Seriouswebspace/Swan.jpg)
Swan was cropped and then reduced to 800*600
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: BigSoy on September 23, 2010, 23:43:55 PM
These hand-held?

What shutter speed?
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 23, 2010, 23:48:17 PM
Both hand held. 1/160th sec, f6.3. [edit]For the Heron[/edit]

I was probably lucky to do this well on some of the images, the weather was really grotty.
Title: Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Binary Shadow on September 23, 2010, 23:49:39 PM
Looks good for a first go in bad conditions, hand held?

got the exif data?
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: BigSoy on September 23, 2010, 23:51:03 PM
Yeah, the swam is quite sharp, first bird a little less so.

Would be interested to see what can be achieved with this sort of lens from a tripod / in better light with a faster shutter speed.
Title: Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Binary Shadow on September 23, 2010, 23:52:33 PM
wow thats slow shutter for that length hand held, if it was me i doubt you could even make out the birds heh
Title: Re:Just ordered one of these...
Post by: Serious on September 24, 2010, 00:21:03 AM
The lens and camera combination is well over 2KG so its not going to swing around as much as a lighter lens. Some pics were good, some a little blurred. I just took a few and hoped a couple would come out. Most of the swan photos did.

File name IMG_2633.CR2
Camera Model Name Canon EOS 40D
Firmware Firmware Version 1.0.8
Shooting Date/Time 23/09/2010 15:37:17
Tv(Shutter Speed)1/160Sec.
Av(Aperture Value) F6.3
Metering Modes Evaluative metering
Exposure Compensation 0
ISO Speed 800
Lens 150-500mm
Focal Length 500.0 mm
Image size 3888 x 2592
Image Quality RAW
Flash Off
White Balance Auto
AF mode AI focus AF
Picture Style User Setting3(Standard)
Parameters
          Tone Curve :    Standard
          Sharpness level :    -
          Pattern Sharpness :    -
          Contrast :    0
          Sharpness :    3
          Color saturation :    0
          Color tone :    0
          Long exposure noise reduction :    Disable
          High ISO speed noise reduction :    Disable
          Highlight tone priority :    Disable

File name IMG_2635.CR2
Camera Model Name Canon EOS 40D
Firmware Firmware Version 1.0.8
Shooting Date/Time 23/09/2010 15:37:25
Tv(Shutter Speed) 1/320Sec.
Av(Aperture Value) F7.1
Metering Modes Evaluative metering
Exposure Compensation 0
ISO Speed 800
Lens 150-500mm
Focal Length 500.0 mm
Image size 3888 x 2592
Image Quality RAW
Flash Off
White Balance Auto
AF mode AI focus AF
Picture Style User Setting3(Standard)
Parameters
          Tone Curve :    Standard
          Sharpness level :    -
          Pattern Sharpness :    -
          Contrast :    0
          Sharpness :    3
          Color saturation :    0
          Color tone :    0
          Long exposure noise reduction :    Disable
          High ISO speed noise reduction :    Disable
          Highlight tone priority :    Disable