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Title: Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 26, 2010, 19:21:19 PM
Well theres nothing wrong with my 450D but wondering if i could do better with a different camera.

First of all, any idea what my stuff is worth if i sold it?

450D body mint
4Gb SD card
EF-S 18-55 IS lens with UV filter
eyepiece extender
IR remote
Battery grip with 2 additional batteries, not canon but works perfectly, slight marks from use

Next, what to replace it with? only really need a body and mem card for now, i have canon lenses and the other bits i can pick up as and when i need them. Thinking 40D or 50D (when the 60D is out the prices might drop a bit) or (i wish) a 7D (these any good?)

Dont need video on it, just want a fast camera with good image quality. Needs to be noticeably better than the 450D though or its pointless.
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: zpyder on August 26, 2010, 19:53:16 PM
£350-75 if youre lucky?

Total guestimate based on what I saw of 400Ds being sold and adding random figures on for everything else.
Title: Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 26, 2010, 20:18:55 PM
just been checking the 7D on dpreview, seems an awesome camera, just missing £5-600 after selling my stuff ouch!
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: zpyder on August 26, 2010, 21:06:09 PM
Aye, when I win the lottery, or some rich relative Ive never heard of dies and leaves me their entire fortune...
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Kunal on August 26, 2010, 23:37:38 PM
So say you sold your kit and upgraded to a 40/50D or 7D - what lens are you going to be left with?

Youve already got a fair few accessories, why not buy a new lens and a tripod?

I remember when I had my 300D and 18-55. I bought a Canon 10-22mm and it really changed everything for me. I had this amazing new range to play with IQ that staggered me.

I used to go on trips with nothing but the 300D and the 10-22. It forced me to use the lens to its limits and expand my creativity.

Check out the UWA lenses (anything between 10-25mm), telephoto (70+mm, like the 70-300mm) or something different like a 100mm macro.

Each route will open new areas for you more than a new body will.

Title: Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 26, 2010, 23:53:28 PM
I have a couple of tripods, admittedly they are a bit cheap but seem to do the job ok, and a monopod.

If i sold what iv listed i would be left with an EF-S 55-250 F4-5.6 IS, an EF 28-135 F3.5-5.6 IS, Sigma 70-200 F2.8 + 1.4x adaptor, an eos 3 35mm body and my speedlight 430 EX II flash.

Im tempted to sell the EF-S 55-250 F4-5.6 IS as using it at full zoom (which is where im usually sat) i get some slight darkening in the corners of the images, its really obvious in thumbnails.

I hardly use my EF 28-135 F3.5-5.6 IS, i think i should use it more tbh.

Id like some more length, was considering a Sigma 150-500mm f5-6.3 APO DG OS HSM

The reason im thinking of a new body is the button layout and quick dial that my camera lacks. That and i find the metering can be a bit off sometimes on my 450D and i wish it would focus a bit quicker, seems to take an age at times.

EDIT:

Im not surprised you used the 10-22 everywhere, id want to as well after spending £500 on one! Ill have to see if theres a sigma/tamron cheaper route.
Title: Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Dave on August 27, 2010, 00:13:00 AM
Quote from: Binary ShadowIf i sold what iv listed i would be left with an EF-S 55-250 F4-5.6 IS, an EF 28-135 F3.5-5.6 IS, Sigma 70-200 F2.8 + 1.4x adaptor, an eos 3 35mm body and my speedlight 430 EX II flash.

IMHO sell those two - keep the sigma 70-200 and go buy a Tamron 17-50 F2.8

17-50 and 70-200 will have you well covered and youll have f2.8 across that range - those other two lenses would be pretty redundant.
Title: Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 27, 2010, 00:16:32 AM
I think the only reason I still have the EF-S 55-250 is that the sigma weighs a ton so its good to just have it to hand, but its not great when zoomed right in as said so i might as well sell if i can.

That sounds like a good plan, the tamron have IS or OS or whatever they call it?

EDIT: Ah yes appears to be called VC on Tamrons
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Dave on August 27, 2010, 00:23:31 AM
yeah there is one with and one without

I went for the one without as I dont see the point at that range

I quite fancy getting a decent 70-200 or 50-150 at some point though need to get a new body first as Ive been trying a bit of gig photography and would like higher ISO, better autofocus etc...
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: XEntity on August 27, 2010, 00:24:17 AM
Tamron 10-24 FTW if you want a cheep wide angle
Title: Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 27, 2010, 00:42:29 AM
So if i sell the lenses i dont need

EF-S 18-55 IS - £50 if im lucky
EF-S 55-250 IS - £150 if im lucky
EF 28-135 IS - £200 if im lucky

Should be enough to get the tamron 17-50 f2.8 VC and i can think about getting the tamron 10-24 later on
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Dave on August 27, 2010, 00:51:23 AM
can get the non-VC one for £260 or the VC one for £320:

http://www.simplyelectronics.net/search.php?keyword=Tamron+17-50mm&gclid=CK-GgtOq2KMCFeFc4wodnRAB_A
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: XEntity on August 27, 2010, 00:57:44 AM
Dont get it from Simply, unless you dont mind getting a grey import and potentially a long wait/sh*t customer service!

Edit: SRS (srsmicrosystems.co.uk) do the VC for about 380, no idea how good the company is havent looked yet, but dont do grey imports

Amazon direct have the non VC for £280

There may be better deals, just be careful who you buy from and what you get..
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Serious on August 27, 2010, 03:45:08 AM
Quote from: XEntityTamron 10-24 FTW if you want a cheep wide angle

Ive got a Tamron SP AF 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 Di II LD Asp. (IF) Lens. To be honest I wasnt expecting to get much use out of this, but as with the other people who use very wide angle lenses its become a firm favourite. Closed down to 24mm and it gives a decent group photo lens. Way out at 10mm and it takes photos of things you couldnt get in otherwise.

It certainly fits in well with the Canon EF 28-135mm. Add in a long lens and you have almost everything covered. Only thing missing is a Macro, if you want to take close ups.

You might want to consider the 60D too, when a full review gets put out.
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: XEntity on August 27, 2010, 19:55:54 PM
Across all the lenses I have I have no real macro my 18-200 says macro, but the performance is really sh*t, and dont fancy spending another 300+ on a lens just for macro, just dont think Id use it that much, and tbh could get a compact that that performs really well for that range for at least half the price!

Try not to hijack your thread, but anyone got a good cheap macro?
Title: Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 27, 2010, 21:30:46 PM
Thing with macro photography is to me it would be like a fad, great for a bit.. then i just wouldnt bother
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: zpyder on August 27, 2010, 22:01:09 PM
Why not just take a bit of an IQ drop and get some close up filters? Ive yet to try it but people keep saying that CA can be post processed out, which I might look into at some point I guess.

Quote from: Binary ShadowThing with macro photography is to me it would be like a fad, great for a bit.. then i just wouldnt bother

Each to their own, I love being able to capture what is pretty much invisible to us as an image. Telephoto lenses for birding to me would be a bit of a gimmick I find, and as for using them for getting closer to insects, I find part of the fun is chasing them around a field :D
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Serious on August 29, 2010, 01:05:36 AM
I havent got a proper macro lens either, its why Ive been looking at them.

Still no closer to buying one though.
Title: Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Binary Shadow on September 18, 2010, 00:05:50 AM
Sold my EF-S 55-250 on ebay
my body etc didnt sell, going to relist it, hopefully itll go and i can get a 50D
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Mongoose on September 18, 2010, 16:13:19 PM
Quote from: XEntityDont get it from Simply, unless you dont mind getting a grey import and potentially a long wait/sh*t customer service!

Edit: SRS (srsmicrosystems.co.uk) do the VC for about 380, no idea how good the company is havent looked yet, but dont do grey imports

Amazon direct have the non VC for £280

There may be better deals, just be careful who you buy from and what you get..

SRS are my absolute favourite company to deal with. I only shop elsewhere at all because they only sell camera gear! Think Tekheads at the height of the good old days of Sam, Clockd and Vini. Cant praise them enough TBH.
Title: Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Binary Shadow on September 18, 2010, 22:07:49 PM
SOLD! all my gear has gone now.

Roll on the 50D!
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: zpyder on September 18, 2010, 22:29:47 PM
That was quick, classified in the paper or something?
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Binary Shadow on September 18, 2010, 22:31:46 PM
Quote from: zpyderThat was quick, classified in the paper or something?
Nah had an ebayer message me, they missed bidding on it as they lost signal on their phone or sommit, so i relisted and ended it early for them. (I always set a starting price at the value i want for it).
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Serious on September 21, 2010, 01:31:42 AM
Quote from: Mongoose
Quote from: XEntityDont get it from Simply, unless you dont mind getting a grey import and potentially a long wait/sh*t customer service!

Edit: SRS (srsmicrosystems.co.uk) do the VC for about 380, no idea how good the company is havent looked yet, but dont do grey imports

Amazon direct have the non VC for £280

There may be better deals, just be careful who you buy from and what you get..

SRS are my absolute favourite company to deal with. I only shop elsewhere at all because they only sell camera gear! Think Tekheads at the height of the good old days of Sam, Clockd and Vini. Cant praise them enough TBH.

Ive seen far too many complaints about bad service, grey imports and having to threaten legal action against them to bother ordering.

I dont mind grey imports but there are better options to buy from.
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Mongoose on September 29, 2010, 15:47:10 PM
I dont know who youre confusing them with Serious, but SRS dont do grey imports. Or are you talking about Simply? I dont know anything about them.

SRS are a Pentax Pro-Centre and an old fashioned camera shop in the best tradition of the term. I bought a Sigma flash gun from them which didnt expose properly and when I took it back they basically said "well send it back to Sigma, and if youre still not satisfied when it comes back well exchange/refund it". I dont think I even had to show them an example image, they just took my word for it. Its helped by the fact that the guy who owns the shop is a complete camera fanatic.

If anyone finds themselves in Watford with nothing to do, I whole heartedly recommend a browse in SRS. Their second hand selection can be a goldmine too, thats where I got my 300mm f/2.8 from
Title: Re:Thinking of upgrading..
Post by: Serious on September 30, 2010, 14:44:13 PM
Srry talking about simply.net. I wasnt specific enough  :whoops:

SRS prices look roughly the same as Warehouseexpress