i think too many of you have an unhealthy knowledge of the porn industry

Just the tech industry because many of the tech sites use the porn industry in terms of media technology becuase they are at the top and push for it.
With the gaming industry and porn industry they are way ahead of the movie industry these days in so many areas now, movies are lagging behind in many areas.
Prime example of tv and movie streaming that is legal, look at how crap the quality is compared to say divx steaming illegal uploaded movies which are almost hd and play straight the way.

LOL, Where you been?
Of course it does
The porn industry AND the gaming industy are BOTH bigger then the movie industry these days and it is very well known (google and you will get pahes and pages) that the porn industry has made the mediums
VHS - porn industy took hold of it, made it like crazy caused it to beat betamax, dvd same the porn industry was the one that first embraced it and got it into the world as it is
There are a number of documentaries that have been made about it as well and it has been discussed befroe.

Swiss - one porn company wanted to make blueray and hddvd but sony will not let porn use their replications plan, but they have found one replication plant which is 3rd party but its small scale.

who said anything about games? Porns biggest distibution is through the internet. I dont believe for a minute that disc for disc, more porn is sold on DVD than any other media.

Betamax lost the war because of its running time. It had nothing to do with porn.

As I said in the other post the very very strong rumour is that Sony US gave them crap loads of cash to do it.
Sony is again doing what they did with other mediums pump money (which they do not have but seems to appear) and pay people to stock their stuff.

Remember minidisk they got virgin stores to stock music in it - did not last very long.

Do not know where this "blue ray is winning" "ps3 is outselling the other consoles" talk is coming from around at the moment becuase its all a load of tosh at the end of the day.

everyone knows the wii is outselling everything.. PS3 probably is outselling Xboxs now.. because everyone who wanted an xbox has probably already got one. Gamers aint your 7 & 8 year old.. your games are the 25-30 year olds who can afford to buy a new console 6 months after release if wanted... and not wait until their bday/xmas.

I doubt if Sony paid Blockbuster. Id be suprised if Sony had the money..
How much would it cost? lets say they rented 33 hd-dvds per store per day. Rental was $3 a night. thats $99 a day in income x 250 stores = just short of $25k per day.. I doubt if Sony will be coughing up the best part of $175k a week.. and thats just based on 250 stores. Theres over 1400 stores in the chain.

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As I said in the other post the very very strong rumour is that Sony US gave them crap loads of cash to do it.
Sony is again doing what they did with other mediums pump money (which they do not have but seems to appear) and pay people to stock their stuff.

Remember minidisk they got virgin stores to stock music in it - did not last very long.

Do not know where this "blue ray is winning" "ps3 is outselling the other consoles" talk is coming from around at the moment becuase its all a load of tosh at the end of the day.

everyone knows the wii is outselling everything.. PS3 probably is outselling Xboxs now.. because everyone who wanted an xbox has probably already got one. Gamers aint your 7 & 8 year old.. your games are the 25-30 year olds who can afford to buy a new console 6 months after release if wanted... and not wait until their bday/xmas.

I doubt if Sony paid Blockbuster. Id be suprised if Sony had the money..
How much would it cost? lets say they rented 33 hd-dvds per store per day. Rental was $3 a night. thats $99 a day in income x 250 stores = just short of $25k per day.. I doubt if Sony will be coughing up the best part of $175k a week.. and thats just based on 250 stores. Theres over 1400 stores in the chain.

360 out selling ps3 latest rports, gamespy, ign and gamespot when I read saying the same thing with wii selling the best yes.

Your not aware Sony BGM has shares in Blockbuster then note the different areas of Sony who are large, movie side of the firm we are on about here.
Gaming side is f**ked for money

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I am sorry dude but You just way off anything, you have made no effort to even check on anything so I am not even going to bother linking countless articles, stories, even TV documentaries about it.

Your very wrong, sorry but you are, Porn chose VHS and pushed it to the limit before the movie industry becuase from start to finish in terms of production vhs is cheaper, and then movies followed etc.

While everyone pushes for new tech in media the porn industry is the one that chooses it and everyone knows the gaming industry and porn industry are large then the film industry.
You even make the point with the comment about the net - porn there first and the movie and tv companies only just starting to get into it years later.

Bet you anything as well pc game format of the future - hd-dvd again becuase of the costs! and again bigger then the movie industry.

Go on then.. lets see some links.
Infact, ask your parents, uncles, aunties, anyone old enough to remember when VCR players came out & ask them if you could buy porn off the shelf to watch or how easy it was to get hold off.

Back then, it was either in a brown paper bag from a sex shop, or from some dodgy bloke down the pub who also had all the latest hollywood blockbuster movies... or some back street cinema.

There was very little between Betamax & VHS, the only difference was the size of the cassette & VHS allowed a higher running time. Again, nothing to do with porn pushing it.. they just adopted VHS early... Quality didnt matter as they was shot with some old piece of camera. It was about getting the stuff out there.

Heres a quick one that back up the recording time..
I was around during the war, my family had a successfull chain of Video hire stores. Opened the first in 78 & we stocked very few betamax videos, even back then from the off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betamax

Porn will adobt whatever media is available the quickest & cheapest to get their stuff out there. Doesnt mean they actually the new media to their full capabilities & quality (though I dont know anything else that used the camera angle button on the dvd ;-))

Abosulty no point to it becuase it is clear you will discredit them and the fact a few have ben posted before and a number of forum members in old friends all saying the same thing before becuase this topic has been covered before.
No matter how many links I post or videos you will still be against it, even though your wrong, You want to see the links do not be a lazy bugger and google you will get bloody loads and loads and loads of articles.
You bore me now your out to just argue

I will though if I find it post the video I saw recently on one website about it all, becuase it is actually a good documentary.

to be fair...  the porn industry did have a large part to play in it and its not just Ethen and a few others saying it - it was one of the main reasons cited at the time.  Not everyone needs to ask their parents as most of us were old enough to have used both (top loading betamax is the future!)

The porn connection was mainly US driven.  Basing the fact that the UK market didnt have ready access to VHS porn isnt that helpful as its not like the format war really rested on the shoulders of our great nation...

They didnt buy them in seedy shops - VHS was ideally suited to mail distribution which is why it had such an effect.  You are right tho, the porn connection isnt exactly a case of the porn industry makes a choice so everyone else must follow.  The porn industry are just early adopters and tend to make their mind up a good few months before the other studios.  Its more a case that the porn industry faces the same choices the film studios will do, just they make it 6 months earlier.  Inevitably they often make the same decision (if you take away the manufacturers throwing extra incentives to film studios then why wouldnt they choose the same one).

It was the same with VHS, it was the same with divx leading the codecs over xvid etc, itll be the same with HD-DVD.




btw - the PS3 is nowhere even close to selling as many units as the xbox.  Not only is it way behind because it started late it is still selling less per day than the XBox 360.  Its a while since I checked but iirc there were more XBox 360s sold in the launch month of the PS3 than there were PS3s.  Im not entirely sure if the Wii is outselling the xbox either while were on it, its definitely in shorter supply but not seen any numbers on how the two stack up for a while.  Id guess the Wii probably is outselling but I wouldnt automatically assume its true.  Microsoft are shifting 360s out of the factories at a hell of a speed.  Or at the very least (from where I see the console market from) the processors for the 360 are being churned out at incredible speeds.

Go on then.. lets see some links.
Infact, ask your parents, uncles, aunties, anyone old enough to remember when VCR players came out & ask them if you could buy porn off the shelf to watch or how easy it was to get hold off.

actually, the local video shop down the road fm me had an "Adults Section" behind the 18+ movies, it was curtained off.  So did most of the others before the big chains arrived and stitched the market up.  Porn was easily available to anyone willing to walk into a video shop and pick the case off the shelf.  its actually more difficult to get hold of porn these days than it used to be!

Edit : I also dont think itll be price that swings it, itll be customer recognition.  the magic letter "DVD" will swing the market that isnt all that tech savvy.  Theyll walk into Currys/Comet and dumbly point at the line of HD-DVD players because they think they are buying the next iteration of what they already have.  Many people will be worried enough that their DVDs wont play on the BluRay player that they wont even look at the BluRay players.

Nope. You would have needed a licence to sell anything like that on a video back then. - maybe over 18 comedies like Confessions of a window cleaner, The Stud, Bitch, etc.

nope, those were in the normal 18+ section.  The places round here possibly did have licences, but there were 3 round here that had them.  The last one to close had actually turned the porn area into a childrens play area until it closed down.  The advent of fast Internet connections pretty much killed off their porn business, while Blockbuster killed off the rest of the customer base.