Yes chrome 3 is awesome. FF 5 will copy it and then people will be raving about it.

when i type the first few letters of a URL, or a few letters in a URL in any other web browser, it does NOT appear in the url bar - I have to press an arrow key.

In order to bring up (for example) trapezenetworks.com - I go tra [enter]

In firefox, its tra [down arrow] [enter]

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You cant use it in a development capacity at all, uses far to of the machines resources.

eh ? Were talking about Chrome here not FF.

One  of the biggest complaints about chrome to google from developers is exactly this. Photoshop, browser with a number of tabs, cssedit and other stuff open to do coding etc - Chrome eats away at the resources needed for everything else. Firefox with more tabs, addons open as well uses less memory.
And still, the web developer tools on chrome are nothing compared to web developer tools and firebug on FF.

I keep pointing out that a web DEVELOPER does not need those CSS tools you use.
Youre a web DESIGNER not a dev.

Considering I am coding a site in an MVC environment in php today, No, not just that. My job title is web design and developer.
Again though: Developers do use them, Not using web developer tools (that it is actual name!) for example is not good productivity and most good ones do. Firebug as well. Going back into actual code to fiddle about with output when you got firebug is again a waste of time and a bit daft when you got these sorts of tools sitting on all the modern browsers in some form or another. Not caring about how things perfom, again is rather stupid in this day an age.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10217887-2.html
http://www.marketing-ninja.com/blogging-for-marketers/10-awesome-firefox-extensions-for-developers-and-bloggers/
http://ostatic.com/blog/6-must-have-firefox-extensions
http://www.bashbosh.com/web-developer-firefox-extensions/
http://www.flashmint.com/wp/2009/02/5-firefox-plugins-every-developer-must-have/

Look at what is linked all the time in regard to blogs etc talking about web developers must have firefox extensions. Even googles developer blog lists firebug and web developer tools as life savers.

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I keep pointing out that a web DEVELOPER does not need those CSS tools you use.
Youre a web DESIGNER not a dev.

Considering I am coding a site in an MVC environment in php today, No, not just that. My job title is web design and developer.
Again though: Developers do use them, Not using web developer tools (that it is actual name!) for example is not good productivity and most good ones do. Firebug as well. Going back into actual code to fiddle about with output when you got firebug is again a waste of time and a bit daft when you got these sorts of tools sitting on all the modern browsers in some form or another. Not caring about how things perfom, again is rather stupid in this day an age.

I do not consider CSS or Javascript to be part of a developers domain.

Why do you not consider JavaScript as part of the developer domain?

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I keep pointing out that a web DEVELOPER does not need those CSS tools you use.
Youre a web DESIGNER not a dev.

Considering I am coding a site in an MVC environment in php today, No, not just that. My job title is web design and developer.
Again though: Developers do use them, Not using web developer tools (that it is actual name!) for example is not good productivity and most good ones do. Firebug as well. Going back into actual code to fiddle about with output when you got firebug is again a waste of time and a bit daft when you got these sorts of tools sitting on all the modern browsers in some form or another. Not caring about how things perfom, again is rather stupid in this day an age.

I do not consider CSS or Javascript to be part of a developers domain.

Why do you not consider JavaScript as part of the developer domain?

Because its used for front end UI stuff. Its just a little toy language addition to HTML to make it a bit more powerful.
If you write JS and think youre a developer youre fooling yourself.

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Javascript is something many companies will look for on a developer CV, often not hiring them if they do not have it. They need to know javascript, javascript frameworks, Ajax and especially JSON these days.

Lets be honest. If youre applying for a Java or .NET position, you will know JS or could learn it in 1hr.
Its like applying to be a mechanic and them saying you also need to be able to drive.

Based on conversations with you, Working with Coldfusion and java developers who have the same thinking and same lack of understanding for a lot about modern web I can defiantly say that is a load of tosh. You wont find any decent developer or front end guy or designer say that they can know it all in an hour. Considering all elements and new ideas and approaches and new plugins, new ways to do something, same way less code.... etc is being done almost on a daily bases and the web being such a a great ever evolving learning curve, it is even more Tosh, sorry but that really is.
Come on, Just deleted some bits, but Sam you really do just keep being silly, back track a bit, moan, get some stuff thrown at you, avoid,ignore on to the next dig or moan...
Respect every aspect of the web which you will need to do or at least work with to do well and stay up to date and meet with the modern thinking and at least respect the other people out there who are and doing a good job rather then moaning and disregarding just about everything like you do. I know non table mark up and CSS foxes you big time for example.
Chrome 3 - great!!! Good to use as a proper developer or designer? Not yet. Quick post on twitter gets that consensus.
You on twitter sam, do you follow many guys in the web world? Who you got on your list out of interest?