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on: March 31, 2008, 12:31:03 PM
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American botanist, teacher, former biologist and sometime physicist says (in outline) that the LHC may rip a hole in the fabric of the space-time continuum and so destroy the Earth. He wants the US government to act now and delay the LHCs startup while a new safety review is carried out.

Walter L Wagner and his fellow Hawaiian Luis Sancho, according to a report on MSNBC, filed suit in the Hawaii federal court last Friday. The men are worried about one of several planet-busting physicists nightmares being unleashed in the LHCs bowels deep beneath the Franco-Swiss countryside. (According to Wagners website, as of publication, the LHC is located "near Generva, Switzerland".)


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Reply #1 on: March 31, 2008, 12:36:59 PM
I like that their response is that its "ALMOST completely impossible".

Theres always a little risk when we eff the ineffable, but if it really does go tits up and a small black hole is created that manages to draw power from one of the 6-8 dimensions parallel to ours that explain where all the gravity is, we wont know much about it.
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Reply #2 on: March 31, 2008, 12:39:30 PM
I love this bit:
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Some physicists have theorised that black holes might act as spacewarp wormhole portals into alternate universes, or something. Summarising, it appears that the boffins at the LHC - should one of them clumsily spill his tea on the controls, for instance - could easily catapult the entire world through a rift in the very fabric of space-time, into another universe which could be entirely hostile to life as we know it. (Eg, essential processes such as fermentation of alcohol, TV, pizza delivery, gravity etc might simply not work; or there could be a parallel Earth ruled by an evil victorious Nazi empire with space battlecruisers and so forth.)


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Reply #3 on: March 31, 2008, 12:47:09 PM
Much LoL

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boffins at the LHC - should one of them clumsily spill his tea on the controls, for instance - could easily catapult the entire world through a rift in the very fabric of space-time, into another universe which could be entirely hostile to life as we know it. (Eg, essential processes such as fermentation of alcohol, TV, pizza delivery, gravity etc might simply not work; or there could be a parallel Earth ruled by an evil victorious Nazi empire with space battlecruisers and so forth.)


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As for his worries regarding the LHC, it all seems fair enough to us. The LHC is to be run by CERN, the Euro nuclear-physics outfit famous for letting its boffins meddle with things best left alone. Tim Berners-Lee, for instance, invented the web while he was supposed to be playing particle pool at CERN. God knows what other horrors could be unleashed now that those crazy boffins have an even more powerful proton-bothering rig at their disposal.

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Reply #4 on: March 31, 2008, 12:48:16 PM
Hehehe
TV is listed as an essential process

Lets not forget that the LHC might be "ground zero" for time travel. Many scientists believe that you can only go back to the past to the point of where time machines exist. The LHC might be able to generate particles that travel faster than the speed of light or something, so some scientists believe that in the future, people might be able to send back basic messages...?

Cant deny though that theres not a little bit of fear in me though :D

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Reply #5 on: March 31, 2008, 12:51:48 PM
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American botanist, teacher, former biologist and sometime physicist

I think that says it all.

I think everyone involved knows theres a very low risk that a big bang/black hole might form.

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Reply #6 on: March 31, 2008, 14:05:18 PM
can you imagine writing that risk assesment thought?

Chances of it going wrong? very very small (good thing!)

Number of people effected if it does go wrong? ~6 Billion humans + many billions of other animals (bad thing!)

Nature of effect if things go wrong? destruction of the world (VERY bad thing!)

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Reply #7 on: March 31, 2008, 14:43:38 PM
Dont forget the "Actions to be taken" section...Quite easy really..."Cry whilst you can...dont worry, it wont be long"

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Reply #8 on: March 31, 2008, 15:06:42 PM
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can you imagine writing that risk assesment thought?

Chances of it going wrong? very very small (good thing!)

Number of people effected if it does go wrong? ~6 Billion humans + many billions of other animals (bad thing!)

Nature of effect if things go wrong? destruction of the world (VERY bad thing!)

haha yeah - god I hated COSHH forms

My solution to "what would you do in the case of an accident" was almost always "use absorbant sand".  Wonder if that would help a black hole...

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Reply #9 on: March 31, 2008, 15:15:01 PM
i Love the official site, stuff the fact it could in some strange way destroy space time, suck is into a black hole, fold space in on itself killing us all etc The stringent safety requirements relolve around it blowing up with a TNT force. destroying the planet, well pfff. LOL





Yes I know it wont but when you take into contest what was said by the guy and the article and the website it is all rather comical

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Reply #10 on: March 31, 2008, 15:17:23 PM
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My solution to "what would you do in the case of an accident" was almost always "use absorbant sand".  Wonder if that would help a black hole...


the two ultra absorbent properties would rip a hole in the fabric of space and lead to another point in space time.

either that or you will have sand in your eyes till you finally reach the event horizon

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Reply #11 on: March 31, 2008, 15:21:05 PM
It would be funny if they created the gateway to imagination land

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Reply #12 on: March 31, 2008, 15:22:50 PM
I remember reading some short Sci-Fi story about some kind and his pet planet (thing big box with a sphere in it that slowly formed etc) he broke the rules by dumping a load of sand in (Ever remember doing that with something like sea monkies...put loads of food in...) and the planet grew too quickly, turning into a black hole. I think the story ended somewhere at the point where his street had disappeared into it :D

So in answer to the sand question, I think itd just make the black hole mad. As if things couldnt get any worse :D

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Reply #13 on: March 31, 2008, 15:23:54 PM
I got into enough trouble when I accidentally let the word "nanoparticle" slip into a COSHH form last year, dread to think what theyd do with this stuff. Somehow I dont think nitrile gloves and a respirator is going to cut the mustard.

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Reply #14 on: March 31, 2008, 15:37:50 PM
For all we know, with string theory and all that gubbins preposing multiple universes/dimensions, in many of them a LHC has resulted in some weird milarky causing us to loop back to this world. It could be one big giant reset switch for the universe :D  :0hnoes:

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