Deserves its own thread, the acting is rather good for a Youtube video, stick with it and listen to the words.

It’s like a Mail reader’s wet dream!

What makes this good is because its absolutely true.
16 Year old girls in the UK getting up the duff so they do not have to work as they are a bit thick and lazy and can earn more on benefits then the jobs they could get.

Quote from: neXus on February 08, 2012, 23:01:42 PM

What makes this good is because its absolutely true.

Err, no it isn't, You certainly don't get sickness benefits easily. Yes, there are plenty of people willing to milk the system for all they can get, yes there are those who have lots of kids and then claim benefits for them, but it's a minority of those claiming. Far more is owed by dishonest companies and individuals than can ever be claimed by the unemployment scroungers.

As for young girls getting pregnant to claim extra benefit it takes some effort to look after the kid, and even then the government keep spending a lot of effort to get them into work. There are plenty of dozy young women who aren't bothered about getting pregnant but generalisation is unfair. There are also plenty of women who have been in stable relationships, got children and then the relationship has irretrievably broken.

If there was decent jobs out there then it would be reasonable to expect all those who could work to do so, except there isn't.

OTOH there are plenty of business people willing to rip you off, should I tar all workers with the same brush? Really the unemployed and sick are an easy target.

There are plenty of jobs around, its just a case of people not lowering standards or thinking that many jobs are under them.

I have worked in Sales, Management, Tech Support, but after being out of work for a while and my Mother being sick and then dealing with her Death i chose to take a job as a Courier and have been working for the same company for almost 2 years. I vowed never to do driving work again about 10 years ago but we all have the choice to make an exception rather than sitting on the dole for a lifetime, round here there are generation after generation who simply have no will to work and would rather sponge.

someone on full benefit allowance (ie rent, council tax, cash, etc.) isnt that much worse off than someone on minimum wage.

What do you think about the £25k cap on people receiving benefits? its a good thing imo - £25k in a lot of areas is a good wage.
Yet people can get that by dossing around drinking special vat all day

The cap is too high, average wage is reported to be around £17k so why is the cap at £25k, it should be average wage or even lower still in order to entice people back into work.

When i was claiming (yes i have experience!) i was getting under £60/week and that had to pay my Rent/Bills and provide a enough cash to pay for paper/envelopes/stamps to apply for jobs, i really don't understand where they get these figures from.

The problem is that those on long term benefits want to live the life of luxury, more so than working people.

A true scenario, I am at my brothers house and one of his mates walks in and says "Look at my hands, i have so and so wrong with them so i can't work", yet people like this still manage to lift pints down their local all night, spend £100s at betting shops and do cash in hand work for their mates.

Another time i was sent to one of these "Social Purpose" Companies, the place where you go to look for work while being supervised, i had an hour session in this place where i would sit at a table because those Long Term unemployed would be sat browsing the internet (rather than using the computers to look for work or print letters). On several occasions you would find the main group of them sat around the main table chit chatting about how they could get round working, passing off so called trade secrets, what to tell Dr's, what to tell the Dole office etc to get out of working, it is totally shocking that people can get away with this for so long! I bet we all know individual/s who have not worked in 10/20 years.

I drive a van, i'm 6ft 8, its an Astra van that i drive 300+ miles a night in, the rear bulkhead obstructs me from putting the seat in a comfy position for my size, yet i still manage to turn upto work everynight and do it, and i might add without a single day off sick, and i assure you when its bad weather or im out for 12 hours it gets rather uncomfortable and painful, but at the end of the day you have a simple choice you either want to work or you don't!

Err, no it isn't, You certainly don't get sickness benefits easily.

Apparently people can or at least could - thus the stupidly inflated numbers of people in receipt of said benefit and the need to reform it. Alcoholics, druggies, the obese, people with depression etc... while serious problems in some instances they're hardly cancer patients. Far too many people with a defeatist attitude who perhaps could do *some* work but have now been conditioned to consider themselves 'ill' and incapable of anything.

Until she went into hospital my mother was as well as any other 82 year old, most of the time. After she did get taken in she died within 4 weeks of lung cancer.

So she presumably wasn't a cancer patient then? Rather someone who had it (and seemingly didn't know that she had it?)... nor was she presumably working at the age of 82.

On the other hand a cancer patient, undergoing radiotherapy, isn't necessarily going to be fit for work. Anyway this irrelevant to the point that the system needed reforming and large number of claiming probably could do at least some form of work.

Just being an alcoholic or drug dependant isn't enough to get you sickness benefit, neither is just being depressed. Being obese certainly won't get you any special treatment

Except all of those have caused people to claim - especially 'depression'

re: obesity, alcohol and drug related issues:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13152349

He promised "tough action" after government figures showed 80,000 people claimed incapacity benefits due to drink, drug or weight-related issues.

Notice the figures at the bottom - Depression isn't only a reason to claim its the top reason... nearly 400,000 claimants. This is exactly why the system needs reform - far to many people taking the mickey on conditions that are difficult to diagnose/prove.