Author Topic: Smoking Ban - initial thoughts (Read 5646 times)

DEViANCE · **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2007, 20:11:31 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #15 on: July 08, 2007, 20:11:31 PM

This isnt about stopping people smoking, all the morons that do it will keep doing it.

Its about all the people that are sensible enough not to do it, having to breath in the discusting fumes.

on the govt money side of things, im sure they would rather see us all smoking as it would take alot of strain off the pensions in the future, with all the smokers dieing before they retire.

Dave · **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2007, 20:30:13 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #16 on: July 08, 2007, 20:30:13 PM

Quote from: Chris H

All it means to me is that pubs and clubs now smell rancid, be it sweaty people or greasy food.

that is such bollocks

firstly since when did people suddenly start sweating and smelling simply because they walked into a pub

secondly your argument is basically like a fat guy who has been ostracised for farting too much claiming that if it wasnt for his stinking farts all youd smell was his BO

smoking does stink and Im frankly glad that smokers are now obliged to feck off outside - most of them dont even realize how much they stink and how blatantly rude they are when they simply spark up next to you without asking

Dave · **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2007, 20:33:09 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #17 on: July 08, 2007, 20:33:09 PM

Quote from: Clockd 0Ne

I just enjoyed a Jose L Piedro in the back garden, but it would have been much nicer in the pub with a pint and a few mates around.

come off it it isnt like youre prevented to going to the pub

you can just as easily pop outside to get your nicotine fix as easily as normal people can pop to the toilet to go for a piss

Cypher · **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2007, 20:42:18 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #18 on: July 08, 2007, 20:42:18 PM

I really half hearted about this one. There is no such thing as a right to smoke, or the right to choose for someone else to experiance second hand smoke. At the same time it is taking away a choice and a freedom.

If we were in the opposite situation where smoking had been illegal and the law just made it allowable, it would be exactly the same atgument.

It only annoyed when certain people would blow in your direction, or joing a group of non smokers, light up and not say a word.

The worst thing is I know someone who isnt a smoker yet has been giving, I havent come across one ex smoker yet who is against it.

Cypher · **Reply #19 on:** July 08, 2007, 20:44:36 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #19 on: July 08, 2007, 20:44:36 PM

Quote from: Cornholio

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Wouldnt it have been better to advise him NOT to buy 20 bensons to make himself feel better?

trust me, at this rate it would probably do him some good.

Seriously, I havent stopped coughing since the smoking ban kicked in. Its a bodily reaction to the clean/stale air.

Not smoking and walking, its not healthy for you I tell thee.

Dave · **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2007, 20:48:26 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #20 on: July 08, 2007, 20:48:26 PM

Quote from: Cypher

If we were in the opposite situation where smoking had been illegal and the law just made it allowable, it would be exactly the same atgument.

not really - smoking affects many others surrounding the smoker - banning smoking from indoors only affects the smokers and makes them take a short 30 second walk to an outside sheltered area

neXus · **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2007, 20:52:13 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #21 on: July 08, 2007, 20:52:13 PM

I saw a great news bit the other day about it, a smoker was outside moaning about not being able to smoke and saying how passive smoke does no harm to anyone and someone next to him rolled off like 10 names many of them well known and a couple "my uncle, my friend" etc who have died from passive smoking, the guys face was classic.

Madrocker · **Reply #22 on:** July 08, 2007, 20:58:51 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #22 on: July 08, 2007, 20:58:51 PM

Im a smoker as some of you know and tbh I realy couldnt give a damb about it.

the only thing is that we have lost that classic pub smell.
some of you might say it was a foul smell anyway but you ether like it or you dont, just like marmite.

Quixoticish · **Reply #23 on:** July 08, 2007, 21:24:44 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #23 on: July 08, 2007, 21:24:44 PM

Quote from: Dave

Quote from: Chris H
All it means to me is that pubs and clubs now smell rancid, be it sweaty people or greasy food.

that is such bollocks

My nose tells me different. If you want to call my nose a liar so be it but to be honest Dave it seems a rather ludicrous point to argue about.

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #24 on:** July 08, 2007, 21:29:06 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #24 on: July 08, 2007, 21:29:06 PM

I still say air condition would make everyone happy. But why spend money and please everyone, eh?

M3ta7h3ad · **Reply #25 on:** July 08, 2007, 21:31:36 PM

Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #25 on: July 08, 2007, 21:31:36 PM

Rather than allow your favourite locals to remain open.

Instead youd prefer to enforce the use of expensive air conditioning equipment in all closed premises?

I am pretty sure that making people go outside is not only the more cost effective, but the most sane idea.

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #26 on:** July 08, 2007, 21:33:11 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #26 on: July 08, 2007, 21:33:11 PM

Im not saying enforce it, but make it optional.

Rather than the draconian blanket ban on all inside public locations we have, make concessions. Premises can then decide for themselves what will generate the most revenue for them.

Serious · **Reply #27 on:** July 08, 2007, 22:39:08 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #27 on: July 08, 2007, 22:39:08 PM

Quote from: neXus

I saw a great news bit the other day about it, a smoker was outside moaning about not being able to smoke and saying how passive smoke does no harm to anyone and someone next to him rolled off like 10 names many of them well known and a couple "my uncle, my friend" etc who have died from passive smoking, the guys face was classic.

My mother and father were both smokers until 1992, when they gave up. He died a few months later from a massive heart attack, she lived another fifteen years and died of lung cancer. Both had gone on about smoking not being that big a risk, both were wrong at the time.

Quote from: Clockd 0Ne

I still say air condition would make everyone happy. But why spend money and please everyone, eh?

So put in some nice air conditioning and watch the peeps on low lying areas drown from global warming. Nice idea...

Dave · **Reply #28 on:** July 08, 2007, 22:43:56 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #28 on: July 08, 2007, 22:43:56 PM

Quote from: Clockd 0Ne

Im not saying enforce it, but make it optional.

Rather than the draconian blanket ban on all inside public locations we have, make concessions. Premises can then decide for themselves what will generate the most revenue for them.

how is that in any way different to what it was like before the ban though?

I must admit the total ban was perhaps OTT - private members clubs ought to be exempt - i.e. both working mens club type places and old school tie cigar smoking gentlemans club type places as they are not open to the public at large and are controlled directly by the membership. Id also be in favour of having small smoking rooms indoors where people can go to smoke - have worked in two offices where this was a standard feature in the break area.

Dave · **Reply #29 on:** July 08, 2007, 22:46:35 PM

Re:Smoking Ban - initial thoughts

Reply #29 on: July 08, 2007, 22:46:35 PM

Quote from: Chris H

Quote from: Dave
Quote from: Chris H
All it means to me is that pubs and clubs now smell rancid, be it sweaty people or greasy food.

that is such bollocks

My nose tells me different. If you want to call my nose a liar so be it but to be honest Dave it seems a rather ludicrous point to argue about.

well it is a supposed fact that has been banded around by a load of the pro smoking lobby even before the ban started- apparently smokers are doing us all a favor by covering up this huge stench that would be present without the smoke

I can only conclude that you are either passing on this general sentiment, or perhpas your nose is a liar

or maybe you just tend to visit really crap pubs where people do piss on the floor & smell of BO

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