Who do you reakon will win?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4921784.stm


Will people hold out buying till one emerges the better or more dominant?

Of course they will, only the nutters will buy it now.

Its amusing to see games will come on one disc = thats until the lazy programming kicks in and well see games of 100s of GBs in size

Thing is do you reckon any developer is going to spend the time creating a 100gb game it will take them so long to do, games like oblivion is pretty huge and got a long game time they dont need more than one DVD, Also what Id prefer to see is games been better compressed I really dont want to be installing games upto 100gb onto my PC when they move onto them. I feel that HD and Blueray is kinda a waste for games, great for films that dont want to be compressed,

I wish they would have sorted it.

TBH, i think Every single consumner should all agree not to touch either of them and tell everyone to sort it out otherwise we aint buying.

Just imagine if you actually got a decent campaign going with consumners not touching them.

LOL 0-1% sales would get them to re-think, lol

HD DVD gets my vote, but as has already been mentioned i wont be buying untill there is a clear favorite.

Weve had a debate on this already - but just to repost my opinion - there doesnt *have* to be a dominant format. Im not necessarily saying I dont think there definately wont be but there doesnt have to be.

Just as Playstation & Xbox can share the console market there isnt a major reason in theory why cant blue ray & HD-DVD share the home cinema market. After all it is far easier for a producer/distributor to put out films on both formats than it is for a developer to create games for both sony & MS.

One company (paramount? IIRC) is already going to release on both others are split between either side - if more companies step up & release on both formats then there would be less worry for consumers & more pressure on manufacturers to bring prices down in order to compete. It could be good for the consumer if both formats were to stay.

Quote from: DaveWeve had a debate on this already - but just to repost my opinion - there doesnt *have* to be a dominant format. Im not necessarily saying I dont think there definately wont be but there doesnt have to be.

Just as Playstation & Xbox can share the console market there isnt a major reason in theory why cant blue ray & HD-DVD share the home cinema market. After all it is far easier for a producer/distributor to put out films on both formats than it is for a developer to create games for both sony & MS.

One company (paramount? IIRC) is already going to release on both others are split between either side - if more companies step up & release on both formats then there would be less worry for consumers & more pressure on manufacturers to bring prices down in order to compete. It could be good for the consumer if both formats were to stay.

Its costs to consumers to have two formats. Who want s two dvd players under there telly. Average joe aint going to like that.

Whatever happens, Blue-Ray wont simply disappear.  It is the confirmed format for all future PS3 games.  It has a future, whether it will be carrying games or movies on our retail shelves.

Now this is actually an intresting option, having a PS3 as your Blue-Ray player with its dual HDMI output.  TBH, it wouldnt suprise me if people if people did that, when you consider the price of a single BR player against a PS3 console.

Atm, the only benefit I can see with HD-DVD discs is the cost of manufacturing, now if this directly relates to cheaper retail prices, or what we are paying now for a DVD, then it certainly gets my vote over any benefit BR can offer.

What I dont want to see is a VHS Betamax situation where it didnt take long for one to become virtually extinct., competition is the only way prices will be kept competitve in the early months.

Quote from: brummieIts costs to consumers to have two formats. Who want s two dvd players under there telly. Average joe aint going to like that.

You missed the point of my post - you wouldnt need two if more production companies released on both - which could start to happen if both become popular.

The fact that not everyone with an xbox also owns a playstation means there is no reason why there has to be a dominant player to start with - if both formats gain large market share then production companies would be silly to not release on both formats thus there could be a stop to any potential format war & lots of competition amongst manufacturers to release players at a lower price.

If it turns out that some production companies still only release one format then Im sure some manufacturers will aim to make dual format players. There isnt a single computer games format there doesnt have to be a single video/DVD type format.

Quote from: DaveYou missed the point of my post - you wouldnt need two if more production companies released on both - which could start to happen if both become popular.

Realeasing on both is going to put the prices up anyway.  

Quote from: brummieRealeasing on both is going to put the prices up anyway.  

Competition will cause prices to rise?   ummm if you say so

Quote from: Dave

Quote from: brummieRealeasing on both is going to put the prices up anyway.  

Competition will cause prices to rise?   ummm if you say so

productions cost will. so say i  

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It doesnt look so bad until you notice that a) it comes with 1GB of ram; b) The case has two levels to it and you can only see the top bit.  Whats in the lower bit?

Picture of the 2nd Layer:


And the drive label:

i know a few studios have already signed exclusivity contracts with both hd-dvd and blu-ray and both have direct links to companies who publish dvds.

It is going to come down to a fact of getting players in homes, the one with the more players in homes will get more sales.

If sony can get the ps3 out before christmas they will all sell out, giving blu-ray a massive jump into the market.

If they dont people will buy hd-dvd players as gifts to people instead.

This christmas is the decider imo