Quote from: PaulusYou can still get a good pint of beer in Prague for 50p

That said they are the highest consumers of beer in the world and they have loads of breweries in and around the city so you would expect the beer prices to be lower.

Yup, Budvar.. The stuff Budweiser ripped off. Though not many places in Praha 1 sell it for 50p. Certainly out in other parts of prague.

Prauge is expensive but the northen cities have cheap and tasty beer.

Staropramen, Pilsner Urquell and krusovice

Its still not that hard to get a pint for 50p in Prague 1 just dont go into a bar that says Australian bar, Irish Bar or English bar.

Quote from: PaulusStaropramen, Pilsner Urquell and krusovice

Its still not that hard to get a pint for 50p in Prague 1 just dont go into a bar that says Australian bar, Irish Bar or English bar.

I tend to go to legends at 10am for breakfast. Have a few pints, watch the early KO football. More Food, Watch the afternoon KO football, few more pints & leave at around 8pm.Few hours in Rocky O Reileys with Beer & some more food & then off to the Club by St Charles Bridge, Club Lavka & the big on the corner that has numerous levels & dance floors - Lazne?? (or I got those 2 names mixed up).
Roll in at 6am & still have change from £50

Hmmmm could make a pretty packet with a Kebab shop around there.

http://www.legends.cz
http://www.rockyoreillys.cz
http://www.lavka.cz
http://www.karlovylazne.cz

personally I think it is a load of bollocks

even taking the US example - somewhere like California would do just as well if not better if they were a separate country with a similar trade agreement with the rest of the US as Canad has.

Switzerland is hardly suffering as result of it not being in the EU either.

Im fine with having a free trade agreement and freedom of movement  but I think a lot of the rest of European integration is a waste of time.

The idea that a european court can overrule our own laws in certain cases is pretty damn patronizing - we are basically saying that the most senior judges we can find still ought to have some over watch from a bunch of foreign judges.

The moves by some EU members towards some EU financial regulator to replace those of the member states would completely undermine the UKs interests - The UK has by far the biggest financial sector in Europe and London is arguably the financial capital of the world. Weve achieved this through having fairly sensible regulations and a pretty efficient principles based system overseen by the FSA - the sorts of regulations that the EU would no doubt bring into place could end up with the same effect that the US govt had when they introduced the Sox rules.

An EU defense force would also be a disaster & no doubt one wed have to pay for given that (aside from the French involvement in Africa) were the only EU nation that actually makes any large scale military deployments, various EU states (despite their already being European formations present within NATO) have already gone back on their promises of troops for Afghanistan leaving the UK to pick up the slack.

Single currency is also a bit wank for the UK to bother with- I dont believe our economies are that well aligned and sterling does pretty well by itself thank you very much &

we really dont need some ECB setting interest rates that suit the majority when they may or may not suit us as a nation at that particular point in time. Tis a joke wed basically get a representative who may or may not exert some influence and then if we happen to be going through a period of high inflation but the majority have inflation under control well be the ones getting screwed.

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Quote from: SamUK and Romania is a bad example. Youve picked two ends of the scale, and romania has only been in the EU for 1 year (not even). Give it 10 years and see. Like Czech - their prices are becoming in line with ours now.

which is exactly my point... Where is the money going to come from for Romania to develop?
Where has the money come from for Czech Republic to develop? FWIW, their prices are nowhere near ours. £1.50 for a pint of stella in Prague 1. Equivelent place in the UK would cost £3.50

Dunno where you went to pay £3.50. Its under £2 at the local where I used to live.

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Quote from: PaulusStaropramen, Pilsner Urquell and krusovice

Its still not that hard to get a pint for 50p in Prague 1 just dont go into a bar that says Australian bar, Irish Bar or English bar.

I tend to go to legends at 10am for breakfast. Have a few pints, watch the early KO football. More Food, Watch the afternoon KO football, few more pints & leave at around 8pm.Few hours in Rocky O Reileys with Beer & some more food & then off to the Club by St Charles Bridge, Club Lavka & the big on the corner that has numerous levels & dance floors - Lazne?? (or I got those 2 names mixed up).
Roll in at 6am & still have change from £50

Hmmmm could make a pretty packet with a Kebab shop around there.

http://www.legends.cz
http://www.rockyoreillys.cz
http://www.lavka.cz
http://www.karlovylazne.cz

Are you thinking of Lucerne music bar ?
Anyway, if you go to rocky o rileys or shamrock or the lion bar you are asking to be ripped off !

Quote from: Davewe really dont need some ECB setting interest rates that suit the majority when they may or may not suit us as a nation at that particular point in time. Tis a joke wed basically get a representative who may or may not exert some influence and then if we happen to be going through a period of high inflation but the majority have inflation under control well be the ones getting screwed.

You could say the same about London vs the rest of the country.

Quote from: DaveThe idea that a european court can overrule our own laws in certain cases is pretty damn patronizing - we are basically saying that the most senior judges we can find still ought to have some over watch from a bunch of foreign judges.

Why is it patronising? No one in the states thinks its strange that a supreme court can overrule a state court. And the state might be 3500 miles away from the supreme court.

And the foreign judges could well be English anyway! Theyre selected from Europe (which we are a member of last time I looked on a map). And your very comment perfectly shows my point - the very word Europe to you (And it seems most people in the country) means the mainland continent as if Britain is somehow isolated.

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Quote from: SamUK and Romania is a bad example. Youve picked two ends of the scale, and romania has only been in the EU for 1 year (not even). Give it 10 years and see. Like Czech - their prices are becoming in line with ours now.

which is exactly my point... Where is the money going to come from for Romania to develop?
Where has the money come from for Czech Republic to develop?

You seem to labour under a misunderstanding that for a county to develop it has to take money away from another country. The UK is doing very well at the moment, it hasnt suffered by the rise of the east. It has gained - these countries need more of our services and we are only to happy to provide financial, telecoms and software to them.

Quote from: Sam

Quote from: Davewe really dont need some ECB setting interest rates that suit the majority when they may or may not suit us as a nation at that particular point in time. Tis a joke wed basically get a representative who may or may not exert some influence and then if we happen to be going through a period of high inflation but the majority have inflation under control well be the ones getting screwed.

You could say the same about London vs the rest of the country.

hardly - there is a big wealth gap certainly and a difference in house prices but I dont see a massive economic need to start calculating CPI on a regional basis

Perhaps you could explain what you think the benefits of further integration into Europe are?

Weve got free trade and freedom of movement, NATO already exists...

IMO a lot of the EU just constitutes an extra layer of bureaucracy that we really have no need for.

What benefits would an EU defence force have? Why is a European court more beneficial than forming our own supreme court (if the house of lords is not deemed good enough)?

Working further towards EU integration just means giving up more control over our own affairs.

I think the world has currently one superpower. The USA. I think in 20 years the world will have 3 superpowers. China, India and the USA.

the world is gonna laugh at England. We need to become USE to compete.

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Quote from: Eggtastico

Quote from: PaulusStaropramen, Pilsner Urquell and krusovice

Its still not that hard to get a pint for 50p in Prague 1 just dont go into a bar that says Australian bar, Irish Bar or English bar.

I tend to go to legends at 10am for breakfast. Have a few pints, watch the early KO football. More Food, Watch the afternoon KO football, few more pints & leave at around 8pm.Few hours in Rocky O Reileys with Beer & some more food & then off to the Club by St Charles Bridge, Club Lavka & the big on the corner that has numerous levels & dance floors - Lazne?? (or I got those 2 names mixed up).
Roll in at 6am & still have change from £50

Hmmmm could make a pretty packet with a Kebab shop around there.

http://www.legends.cz
http://www.rockyoreillys.cz
http://www.lavka.cz
http://www.karlovylazne.cz

Are you thinking of Lucerne music bar ?
Anyway, if you go to rocky o rileys or shamrock or the lion bar you are asking to be ripped off !

nope, not lucerne.
Lavka & Karlovy lazne are both by the bridge - they back onto the bridge -
Legends is some small place in the old town, but do lovely food & show all the football without being full of mongs.
Go to Rockys because they have sky sports, so we can catch up on the days sporting results, have a few happy hour cocktails before heading to the clubs.

Quote from: SamI think the world has currently one superpower. The USA. I think in 20 years the world will have 3 superpowers. China, India and the USA.

the world is gonna laugh at England. We need to become USE to compete.

compete at what?

weve already got free trade with Europe, were already in NATO

what good does an extra layer of beurocracy do us

Canad isnt part of the US but is fine, Switzerland isnt part of the EU and is also fine - I really dont see any benifits