They are about £60 here I think, they should be pretty good, you probably lucked out.

On this front the actual apple ipod earphones, they are not bad but anyone notice just how common it is for these to blow and loose all base? Both my ipods have had this happen and started being told of loads of people.
Bit poor on that front not to even slightly improve them over time, seem to be exactly the same as years before

I already emailed them to moan cos they are not noise isolating which is what I want.

Quote from: neXusOn this front the actual apple ipod earphones, they are not bad but anyone notice just how common it is for these to blow and loose all base? Both my ipods have had this happen and started being told of loads of people.
Bit poor on that front not to even slightly improve them over time, seem to be exactly the same as years before

yup, they all die. mine lasted about 2 weeks.

Its cos apple charge so little money for the ipod they cannot afford to offer decent headphones too.

Quote from: SamIts cos apple charge so little money for the ipod they cannot afford to offer decent headphones too.

 

To be fair to Apple () the earphones they supply are better than most ready supplied earphones, arnt they tweaked Sennheisers?

Really, most earphones are crap until you start spending a lot of money, but they are fine for the iPod generation who dont care about the quality of sound when out and about. No one is a critical listener these days.

my ipod ones lasted a good 7 months of abuse till they died.

Quote from: Clockd 0NeTo be fair to Apple () the earphones they supply are better than most ready supplied earphones, arnt they tweaked Sennheisers?

Really, most earphones are crap until you start spending a lot of money, but they are fine for the iPod generation who dont care about the quality of sound when out and about. No one is a critical listener these days.

What is the ipod generation and why dont they care about music ?
Sorry is this compared to the walkman generation who were music critics or something on their C90 casettes ?

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Quote from: Clockd 0NeTo be fair to Apple () the earphones they supply are better than most ready supplied earphones, arnt they tweaked Sennheisers?

Really, most earphones are crap until you start spending a lot of money, but they are fine for the iPod generation who dont care about the quality of sound when out and about. No one is a critical listener these days.

What is the ipod generation and why dont they care about music ?
Sorry is this compared to the walkman generation who were music critics or something on their C90 casettes ?

Mmmmm Slightly reduced hiss

Quote from: SamWhat is the ipod generation and why dont they care about music ?
Sorry is this compared to the walkman generation who were music critics or something on their C90 casettes ?

The younger generation that have grown with music on the move and use it as background filler, not just to sit and listen to. They arnt particularly fussed about the qaulity of the source, etc as long as they can play it portability on the bus/train, for their mates, etc. The sort of people that listen to music from a mobile phone.

There never was a walkman generation really, theyve been bypassed pretty much as portability and quality was never there like it is with mp3 players. Its only recently everyone and his cat simply has to have an mp3 player on/about them. They dont give a monkeys balls about noise isolation and earphone quality for the most part, certainly not enough for manufacturers to drop in expensive sets from the outset, and I dont blame them. Id rather save on the initial cost and buy my own quality pair.

Modern Ipod quality is far better than Hi-Fi ever was in the sixties and seventies. TBH, at the top of the range, you lot are totally spoilt.

Providing you can afford it and care.

People have built in filters, so even relatively dodgy stuff can sound good enough.

Explain how the iPod quality is better than true hifi, regardless of decade? There is some legendary equipment from the 60s and 70s that still produces phenomenal sound today. Not a load has changed really in the world of hifi in thirty or so years. In terms of portable devices, yes, they are high quality now and wernt then. But no one cared for portable music then, people were happy to play a record.

Filters, EQs, compression and all the other jazz does not improve the quality of sound youre hearing, it just masks it like spraying Febreeze on a turd.

Wrong, a hell of a lot has changed in the last thirty years, including the appearance of digital sound. Basics was thirty years ago you had a tape drive, radio, record deck and amplifier. If your system produced fifteen watts per channel you were quite often regarded as being an audiophile and having an uber system. The production of systems was limited to what they could do with the available technology, which wasnt that good.

Some, very few, record decks were excellent, but usually they were joined to amps or speakers that didnt match their performance. Speaker manufacturers certainly didnt have the rare earth magnets or any of the other advantages.

Sound is never digital, you still need to an analogue process to drive the speakers and generate the waveform that reaches your ears. All digitalisation has done is provide better mediums to store music. It has not fundamentally improved the quality of loudspeakers. Youll also find most audio is still recorded to tape reels in studios for masters, used both to make vinyl pressings and to master CDs.

A lot of it is buzz and snakeoil, the discovery and invention of more powerful magnets and a few fabrication processes hasnt improved speakers much, and other areas, well, a glass platter for instance is better than an aluminium platter; probably one of the reasons why Rega hasnt felt the need to tinker with their hardware much in 30 years... Even my Wharfedale Lintons would pee all over some of the cheap manufactured crap that passes for hifi these days.

This is all an aside though and should go in another thread if you want to continue.