Should pay road tax, say like £15 a year or something and they should have insurance and MOT too and you should need a license to ride one on the roads. k 9/10 cyclists are fine without any of these but then 9/10 people are fine using ladders without falling off and claiming 50k compensation.

yeah they should piss off the road, and horses aswell.

Oh come off it, why dont we ban everything that doesnt drink fossil fuels while were at it too?

tbh Im still waiting for a real investment in cycle paths etc. Its too often the case where theres no cycle paths from major points of interest/residential/commerical areas and all the roads are busy and congested. At least where I live. Maybe when fuel gets too expensive and the number of cars on the roads starts to drop, the govt. will decide its losing too much money and bring in a bike tax "to pay for the cycle paths" haha...

its not the actual things on the road that im bothered about, its the fact that it makes driving more dangerous.

a cycle or a horse cant keep up with the traffic and therefore makes cars have to go out of their way to avoid them, which can mean going onto the other side of the road and slowing down to dangerous speeds (e.g. 10-15mph in a 40).

horses do my head in even worse as not only do you have to avoid them like bikes but if you have the cheek to actually drive past them at anything more than idle engine speed they shake their fist at you, i make a point to floor it now, if the horse cant cope with engine noise then it shouldnt be on the road.

Cycle paths are deadly.

When the roads arent busy, cars park in them illegally. When the roads are busy cars drive in them and ignore ASLs.

In all cases even with a cycle path, I ride on the road.

Cant keep up with traffic, maybe on dual carriageways or clear urban streets however around and about a city centre, I can guarantee Ill be reaching your destination before you get there.

You mean you have to overtake them deviance? shock horror.

When a horse jumps through your windshield or you kill a rider because you cause the horse to buck or perhaps in the worst case, you kill someone else behind you because you were a twat... I hope the police dont hold back.

FWIW... I have 3rd party cycle insurance up to 10 Million.

If you cant deal with other road users, you should stay well off of the roads. Stick to walking.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adCycle paths are deadly.

When the roads arent busy, cars park in them illegally. When the roads are busy cars drive in them and ignore ASLs.

In all cases even with a cycle path, I ride on the road.

Cant keep up with traffic, maybe on dual carriageways or clear urban streets however around and about a city centre, I can guarantee Ill be reaching your destination before you get there.

You mean you have to overtake them deviance? shock horror.

When a horse jumps through your windshield or you kill a rider because you cause the horse to buck or perhaps in the worst case, you kill someone else behind you because you were a twat... I hope the police dont hold back.

FWIW... I have 3rd party cycle insurance up to 10 Million.

If you cant deal with other road users, you should stay well off of the roads. Stick to walking.

LOL like i said if the horse is so freaked out by cars (not a rare sight on roads, lets face it) then it should not be on the road.

also like i said you cant do 30 or 40+ mph so riding your bike on a road where the traffic would normally be doing those speeds is dangerous.

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adCycle paths are deadly.

When the roads arent busy, cars park in them illegally. When the roads are busy cars drive in them and ignore ASLs.

In all cases even with a cycle path, I ride on the road.

Cant keep up with traffic, maybe on dual carriageways or clear urban streets however around and about a city centre, I can guarantee Ill be reaching your destination before you get there.

You mean you have to overtake them deviance? shock horror.

When a horse jumps through your windshield or you kill a rider because you cause the horse to buck or perhaps in the worst case, you kill someone else behind you because you were a twat... I hope the police dont hold back.

FWIW... I have 3rd party cycle insurance up to 10 Million.

If you cant deal with other road users, you should stay well off of the roads. Stick to walking.

LOL like i said if the horse is so freaked out by cars (not a rare sight on roads, lets face it) then it should not be on the road.

also like i said you cant do 30 or 40+ mph so riding your bike on a road where the traffic would normally be doing those speeds is dangerous.

QFE:

QuoteIf you cant deal with other road users, you should stay well off of the roads. Stick to walking.

   cant argue with a non driver.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adCycle paths are deadly.

When the roads arent busy, cars park in them illegally. When the roads are busy cars drive in them and ignore ASLs.

In all cases even with a cycle path, I ride on the road.

bollocks, sorry but bollocks. left one, right one. bollocks. cycle paths are there for a reason.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adIf you cant deal with other road users, you should stay well off of the roads. Stick to walking.

This, though obviously Pedestrians shouldnt be crossing roads, or walking on them when there is no footpath because it makes driving dangerous.  

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adCycle paths are deadly.

When the roads arent busy, cars park in them illegally. When the roads are busy cars drive in them and ignore ASLs.

In all cases even with a cycle path, I ride on the road.

bollocks, sorry but bollocks. left one, right one. bollocks. cycle paths are there for a reason.

Yes... to spend councils budgets and ensure that they cant be held up as an example when it comes to promoting sustainable transport.

Cycle paths are there for cyclists to get killed on.

Cycle routes such as the national network of cycle routes... good idea. Cycle paths as in sections of pink tarmac... sh*t idea. "Because different colour tarmac is going to protect me from a car".

Id rather ride in the road as im entitled to do.

Quote from: DEViANCE  cant argue with a non driver.

What do you class as a driver then deviance? Because last I checked I do drive a car.  

Quote from: M3ta7h3adCycle routes such as the national network of cycle routes... good idea. Cycle paths as in sections of pink tarmac... sh*t idea. "Because different colour tarmac is going to protect me from a car".

Id rather ride in the road as im entitled to do.

so, you drive along side the cycle path... out in the road.... instead of a foot to the left... in the cycle path ?


thats like saying you think its safer to drive along the white line in the middle of the road

I cycle as per the guidelines set out in this book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cyclecraft-Skilled-Cycling-Techniques-Adults/dp/0117020516/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214610508&sr=8-2

Im not opposed to the space marked out by a cycle lane, I just dont treat the solid white line as my boundry. If im doing close to 30mph on a 30mph road, you can expect to see me in the middle of said road, regardless of the colour of the tarmac.

Otherwise, I ride a meter away from the kerb typically. I always pass vehicles on the right, even when filtering through traffic at a red light. Only idiots undertake... regardless if theres a "cycle entry to an ASL" section marked there.... its a stupid place to put it.

Edit: Just to eliminate confusion... road = lane in the above set of paragraphs.

Edit2: A perfect illustration of where I ride...

About 3 mtrs behind a vehicle, positioned around the left hand side of a numberplate. Any further left I risk being pinned in. If a car wishes to pass me, they can overtake me as any other road user. I am considerate however and if I notice a car stuck behind me (like on a country lane) I will happily pull over and let him pass when its safe.