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Veggie oil in the DERV

Started by Chris, June 29, 2007, 19:36:05 PM

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zpyder

Im curious...anyone know how using this oil/biodiesel fairs in terms of pollutants? Would be interesting to know whether its more/less damaging...if only on the grounds if it is more damaging its only a matter of time before the govt. kicks in some kind of carbon tax for it...

knighty

mark is right, you can do it pretty cheap, I dont know how these companies get away with changing so much for a kit....

but.... if youre only doing 100 miles a week.... thats only going to be £20 a week in fuel ?  (total guess)

so its probably not worth it if you can buy some cheap bio etc...

EDIT:  http://biomotors.co.uk/CarsVansM.html#Mitsubishi

according to that, the shogun 2.8 engine is single tank-able ?

try a few cans of oil from macro/bookers etc.. first and see how it goes ;)




zpyder.... its actually quite a lot better for the environment, no sulphar in it etc... veg oil is carbon nutral (because its from plants whcih are re-planted) and bio is almost nutral... tho it takes a bit of energy to convert it... another bonus is... it;s normally made from waste oil whcih has already been used in fish and chip shops etc. etc.

there used to be tak on it... 27p/litre iirc.... but all the people using it were sending in paperwork and cheques for £1.20 a time etc.. (just to piss off HMRC).... so it was costing more in admin than they were getting from the tax... and theres some old rule that no tax can be collected if it costs more to collect it than they get back in tax from it.... so its tax free..... for now

zpyder

Quote from: knightyveg oil is carbon nutral (because its from plants whcih are re-planted) and bio is almost nutral... tho it takes a bit of energy to convert it... another bonus is... it;s normally made from waste oil whcih has already been used in fish and chip shops etc. etc.

Surely it would only be carbon neutral if the carbon released upon the combustion of the fuel was equal to or less than the total carbon required by the source-plant + the carbon emitted from the burning of fuels in the cultivation of these plants and the subsequent transportation and storage of the fuel. It may sound like I am being a bit fussy, but take for instance the example of palm oil, it was toted as being a green energy source, whilst peat bogs were being drained to grow the palms on. The peat bogs are massive carbon sinks and its estimated that the carbon released from the drying of these bogs is greater than the amount that would have been released if people stuck to petrol :| Not to mention the conversion of agricultural land to biofuels resulting in food shortages in some developing countries :(

Eggtastico

well, i got the truck.
not driven it yet as I dont have insurance - my bro drove it home as he has a traders insurance policy.

everyone seems to have a different method... One friend runs his on oil, but fills up 1 in 5 with diesel.

Im guessing the best way to start is to put in some cooking with a mix of diesel? & use my own judgement?
only problem is, I know squat about cars & engines & what sounds good & what doesnt sound good!

knighty

well it should be fine on 100% veg oil most of the time... but a bit of diesel mixed in when its really cold will make it run a bit smoother/faster...

best plan would be to..... wait a week or 2 so you know what its like on diesel... then buy some new oil from asda/etc.. so that you know its good clean water free oil... and just keep mixing more in and see how it goes...

trick is never to fill it too full... that way if it starts going a bit slow youve got plenty of room to stick some diesel in ;)

soopahfly

Same engine as my old Delica.  Loves the veggie :D

Mark

best thing to add to the oil to thin it up is unleaded petrol.

Beaker

Quote from: Markbest thing to add to the oil to thin it up is unleaded petrol.

*chuckle* I used to do that with my old 1.6D Escort van many years ago.  It didnt run properly unless you added a liter or so in to a full tank or Derv.