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Started by M3ta7h3ad, July 15, 2006, 12:24:12 PM

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M3ta7h3ad

WD40... good enough to lube a chain??

Its all I have at the mo, parents bought some instead of normal 3in1 light oil like I asked.

Badabing

Quote from: M3ta7h3adWD40... good enough to lube a chain??

Its all I have at the mo, parents bought some instead of normal 3in1 light oil like I asked.

No, not for serious riding, i think its dog sh*t. Go and get some decent lub - i never understood or appreciated the importance of degreasing and lubricating chains and drivetrains until it was too late and had to start replacing parts which should have lasted alot longer. (Deore LX stuff)...

Ceathreamhnan

WD-40 has no load-bearing ability, so you will grind your chain. Its designed as a release agent and a moisture repellant, not a lubricant.

Badabing

Quote from: CeathreamhnanWD-40 has no load-bearing ability, so you will grind your chain. Its designed as a release agent and a moisture repellant, not a lubricant.

Yep, hes right, its got a piss like viscosity - it gets used [wrongly] as lub as it is used to get rid of water - it is water miscible and hence dries very quickly...

AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE.

funkychicken9000

Any tips on something relatively cheap to use instead?

Badabing

Quote from: funkychicken9000Any tips on something relatively cheap to use instead?

Finish line isnt too bad... take your pick, just get a decent cycle-orientated lube and you should be fine. I used to use Gozon (sp) - that was decent.

Ceathreamhnan

Quote from: funkychicken9000Any tips on something relatively cheap to use instead?
You no read Maxisans posts? :lol:
The Finish Line stuff loaded with Teflon that stays when the spray drys is the stuff I like.

maximusotter

Quote from: Ceathreamhnan
Quote from: funkychicken9000Any tips on something relatively cheap to use instead?
You no read Maxisans posts? :lol:
The Finish Line stuff loaded with Teflon that stays when the spray drys is the stuff I like.

:lol: [mob guy] dona makea funa my loob![/mob]

Finish Line with teflon is as good as any other dry lube with teflon. Stateside there are plenty of brands with the same light oil, teflon, and evaporative carrier. Super-Lube and Tri-flow are a couple brand names. They work fine.

My home brew, either motor oil, or gearbox oil mixed with 30-50% spirits works great. You can use it as a chain cleaner as well, or just drop the chain into a plastic bottle with 3 ounces or so of spirits, shake, and remove to dry to clean your chain. After you lube with the mixture, wipe the outside of the chain bone dry or as close as possible. Works as well as a lot of expensive wet lube, but costs pennies. I even use it in a tiny bottle for my hair clipper. :mrgreen: After lubing, let the bike sit a bit for the spirits to evaporate, or youll get a black mess. Also, dont even think about using straight motor oil on your chain. It needs a carrier to get inside and do its job.

Wax lubes are good in my local summer conditions. Im using it exclusively now as its perfect in balmy 35c+ weather, but Ill go back to homebrew in the fall.

Ceathreamhnan

Id call 35DegC searing rather than balmy :P

maximusotter

Quote from: CeathreamhnanId call 35DegC searing rather than balmy :P

The heat index yesterday was 38. :shock: And we like it that way, dagnabbit. :lol:

Searing is when the temp, not the index, is 40+. With high humidty of course. :D

M3ta7h3ad

hmm... well its all I had today :(

Tried explaining this to my dad but hes having none of it. "ITS FINE! ITS WD 40 ITS AN OIL".


is what I had my eye on, its more viscous than wd40 and its what I think I used to use on my bike chains :) That any good?

Badabing

Anything is better than WD40 - but as ive said, you need the proper stuff, unless you want to shorten the life of components, have a look on chainreaction cycles site for degreaser and lube - finish line is nice stuff - i use it on my roadie and it seems to do the job, 3 in 1 is not really up to it IMO.

3 in 1 is an oil because its a hydrophilic hydrocarbon - like sunflower oil, however its the physico-chemical properties such as viscosity etc. which make it a good or bad LUBRICANT. ;)

maximusotter

The reality check is that a chain lubed with 3:1 will likely last 90% as long as the one waxed with unobtanium flakes. Chains wear no matter what. Only reason I even bother lubing them is the noise factor.

Get a bottle of light viscosity motor oil if you want to step up in the world, and remind your dad, that regardless of what it says on the can, 4D40 is a solvent, albeit a solvent that leaves behind a film of very thin oil, meant to protect, not lube.

Also worth looking at: chain saw oil and Boeshield.

M3ta7h3ad

Faiiiiirrrrrr nuff then matey :)

Oh and just a side question... theres a fancy doohicky by the pedals (think its called the bottom bracket) well theres a wierd metal plate there with notches in... mine was spinning freely on the thread, so I did it up using some molegrips as tight as I can turn it, is that fine?? or is it meant to be turning freely? Pedals seem to rotate alright.

maximusotter

Ah, you have traditional cup and cones down there. Super easy to service if you have a hook and pin spanner. The outside lockrings do need to be secure. See parktoo.com for  repair details if needed.