Slaguilera isnt the best example of typical western independant womanhood.

The veiled ninja suit malarky is a slap in the face of suffrage.

So we should allow a custom, which already is alienating and mysoginistic, just because otherwise it would get worse? Puhlease.  The argument was lost when a picture of  CA was presented. Thats sort  of like how the gay civil union people argue. "Whats next?"  they say, "men marrying dogs?"

If you want to be modest, business attire with a full length skirt, no makeup,  and a simple  up-do is about as vanilla as ya  can get.

When  religion intersects with the public arena and rational thought, it needs  to  know who has the upper hand, and that  is reason.

Tonights celebrity death match:

John Locke v. Thomas Aquinas


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As far as Im bothered its up to the women what they wear, providing they arent pushed into it. It has to be their choice.

If a woman wants to wear a dress or skirt then Im not bothered. Same with a trouser suit or hotpants/miniskirt.

Ironically, where the aim of modesty is to blend in with the crowd, the veiled outfit in western society does a spectacular job of flying in the face of that aim. :/

Quote from: BigSoyIronically, where the aim of modesty is to blend in with the crowd, the veiled outfit in western society does a spectacular job of flying in the face of that aim. :/

Bingo.

You need  to integrate into your new society  to a certain degree. Just look  whats happened in France  when the Muslim community becomes alienated.