Just phoned HM Customs and Revenue advice line, and they told me that as of tomorrow (or 1st july, whichever) you can use 2500 litres of veggie oil as fuel in a year tax free with no need to inform the HMRC.

My summers motoring just got a lot cheaper; 55p/l for fuel is too good to pass up, even if it is in just a 5 or 10% solution!

It can be free if you just go to your local chippy or somewhere and give them a tank to store it in and collect it filter it of bits and your away, initial cost of the tank and filter - free petrol

nice, you can get a 2ltr bottle of veg oil from Netto/aldi/lydl etc for 75p

in this weather you should be fine with 40/50% mix.

expect a fuel filter change every couple of months for a while tho, as veg oil cleans the tanks and tends to clog the filters after abit until its all clean.

yeah, but for the thankless task of going to the chippy, collecting the stuff and filtering it Id rather just shell out the 55p/l and get it without any sh*te or animal fat in

if youre just going to stick new fresh veg oil in your tank, you dont have to worry about filter changes etc...

thats only if you use bio-diesel which is a erm.. thingie (forgot the word!) which will clan all the crap out of the tank etc...
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Ive been intrested in this too.... because the first 2500 liters of bio diesel you yse is tax free too

Its a solvent (biodiesel i mean)

heres the details:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/si/2007-1640.pdf

paying for diesel? Havent done that in about 4 years

Alright for some innit?


Ill get some funny looks off the police guards at work when I pull in smelling like a chippy

How do I do this?
Im buying a truck (L200) tomorrow a our company is taking our company cars & replacing them with vans.

Main reason im looking to leave - prob going to do an electrician course...

anyway..

how/what do I run a vehicle on veggie oil / bio-diesel.

a 5yr old knows more about cars than I do, so pls dumb the posts down to a 4yr old level.


Veg Oil doesnt replace diesel does it? its mixed with diesel?
Whats cheaper - biodiesel or vegdiesel?

Knighty knows a lot about this! PM maybe, as he was very helpful when I was looking at getting a diesel.

Quote from: chrisdickoKnighty knows a lot about this! PM maybe, as he was very helpful when I was looking at getting a diesel.

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im looking for some pointers atm.. just done a little reading. Theres a few places that sell biodiesel for less than £1/l around here...
might need to do some maths & see..
I dont do enough miles to warrant a full veg system/conversion kit, but would be interested in knowing about as my needs may change


knighty, after your shift dropping your pants down at the docks, post some info here

what year cars are you looking at ?

if you pick the right car/truck/whatever you can run it on 100% veg oil without any conversion etc...
(might need a bit of diesel mixed in when its really cold to thin the oil a bit)

Ive got an iveco daily (2001, common rail, with the fancy fule pump and injectors etc..) which is twin tanked, start up on diesel and drive off as normal.... once the engine is warm flick a switch and its running on veg oil.... then I flick back to diesel about a 1/2  mile from my destination to flush all the oil out of the system... (or just leave it ticking over on diesel for 5 min if I forgot to switch early)

Ive got a transit (2005) which I just mix veg oil in the tank with diesel...trick is to keep the tank level low and stick a tenner of diesel in on the way home for the night so itll start the next day - itll struggle to start on much over 25/75 veg/diesel..... the engine is a bit modern for the oil to be mixed in like that really, it should be twin tanked... and its probably not doing it any good... but its buggered anyway so what the hell

the best van I have for veg is.... an old citron van (T reg) its an old engine disigne (indirect injection) whcih is perfect for vegoil... it runs on 100% veg oil most of the time and runs perfectly... when it;s really cold we stick 10% diesel in so it starts a bit quicker in the morning

do you do many miles ?

you can buy new veg oil from asda/tescos/bookers etc.. for about 70p/litre.... or used oil ready to use from ebay for about 45p/litre... of if you dont mind getting your hands dirty you can buy dirty oil from an oil collection place / pick it up from your local chippy for free.... but it needs filtering etc...

if you look on here.... http://biomotors.co.uk/CarsVansV.html

and pick a car/truck from the list thats listed as "single tank" those are the ones you can just toss veg oil into the tank and itll be fine / easy....  tho its better if you pick up a heat exchanger (£40) to heat the oil, itll make your fule filters etc.. last longer.... would probably take a mechanic 20/30min to fit#

veg oil has saved me a fortune.... the iveco alone was using £300 a week in diesel... but for the same distance it probably closts me about £40 now
(tho of course Ill have to limit how much oil I use to stay under the 2500litres limit )

this is a good place to look for extra info: http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum
(Im knighty on there too)

theres a lot of people on there using veg oil / bio diesel etc. etc. etc.
(even if you buy in bio diesel have a look on that forum and see how to test it to make sure its good stuff.... Ive never done it, but you pretty much mix 100ml of bio diesel with 100ml of water, shake it up and see what happens.... crappy bio can kill your pump/injectors etc..)

do you need the load space on the back ?   a 3.1 Isuzu Trooper will run on 100% veg oil with no modifications as long as its built on/before 1998


p.s. no-one takes it up the ass down the docks anymore..... if youre paying for it you might as well lie back and have a bj... more more relaxing than all that thrusting

its an l200 2.8td - its the older version that uses the shogan 2.8 engine. Clock has about 50k on it.
I done some looking but cant find if it can be done with 1 tank. I believe there is a 2 tank kit,
but im also under the impression any diesel can be done 2 tank - I wouldnt use a switch as Id forget to switch
& not really prepared to pay £1k for a kit & fitting. Ill only do around 100miles a week, so not really worth it.

plastic can - 25 litres or so - free

tubing - about a tenner

solenoid valve - £20-30

Wiring and switch - about £5

Fuel heater - £40 or so

Turbo timer to keep car running after shutoff, with automatic switch to derv - about £40

Wheres the £1000 there !

Sounds like some people are ripping the absolute bag out of the pricing as with gas kits.

I did a gas conversion for £300 - the local specialists wanted £1500 + VAT