Quote from: TheMallratJust like the PS3, Blu-ray is a half-finished product.

I do not think it is that, I just think they are just been managed very very badly and as such will/are? failing

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Quote from: EggtasticoIts Betamax V VHS all over again!

And TBH I think Sony will loose again, As I keep saying  Joe Blogs will look at both, see the cost, know the name DVD and what HD is and go HD DVD and the pervs will want their porn so HDDVD is their only option as well and Sony Also recently said they may not allow some of the more violent stuff on their medium as well which is shooting yourself in the foot further.

Its not going to kill Sony if Blu ray fails but its going to really really hurt

Privateer BluRay is better overall but to expensive, when your average movie is plus £20 and some £30 and hddvd not that much off in quality and nearly all stuff sub £20 with most only just a couple of squid dearer over the dvd, for many that will be a decider in what they want

Its strange, Bluray and HDDVD are bloody huge, but on the other hand fighting in the compression market are, Divx, Xvid and now Quicktime H264,
Now-days blank Dvds are £5.00, for a 100. I bet in China, half price again.

Quote from: KunalBy the time either of these become main stream well be even closer to media-less distribution being common place.

Itll never happen, the same way it wont happen for music. It will be an option, not a replacement. Too many people, myself included, still prefer having the physical article.

I really want something big to happen so one or both formats are accepted, then I can start getting HD films (I really want the new Bladerunner set).

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Quote from: KunalBy the time either of these become main stream well be even closer to media-less distribution being common place.

Itll never happen, the same way it wont happen for music. It will be an option, not a replacement. Too many people, myself included, still prefer having the physical article.

I really want something big to happen so one or both formats are accepted, then I can start getting HD films (I really want the new Bladerunner set).

Get a loan and buy a Multi player that plays DivX, on your big HD TV, which is on a loan, thats what sony and others will expect.

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Quote from: KunalBy the time either of these become main stream well be even closer to media-less distribution being common place.

Itll never happen, the same way it wont happen for music. It will be an option, not a replacement. Too many people, myself included, still prefer having the physical article.

I agree, having a real product is better, then you the problem of rights I would always buy something that is on media rather than have to face up to that carp.

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Quote from: Clockd 0NeI really want something big to happen so one or both formats are accepted, then I can start getting HD films (I really want the new Bladerunner set).

Get a loan and buy a Multi player that plays DivX, on your big HD TV, which is on a loan, thats what sony and others will expect.

Trouble is in a few months the price will probably plummet and the ones that bought early will find everyone else laughing at them cause they were robbed. Eventually the cost will be as low as a DVD player and will be able to handle both formats as well as DVD and CDs.

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Quote from: KunalBy the time either of these become main stream well be even closer to media-less distribution being common place.

Itll never happen, the same way it wont happen for music. It will be an option, not a replacement. Too many people, myself included, still prefer having the physical article.

I really want something big to happen so one or both formats are accepted, then I can start getting HD films (I really want the new Bladerunner set).

Those too many people are dying out every day - the people who grew up with the notion of buying records tapes and cds. Some people will still want to collect them much in the same way as some people now collect dinky toys.

People also said that digital would never replace film in the 35mm arena - myself included. Whats happened 2 years down the line? I cant buy a new nikon F4s, but I can buy (Very soon - cant wait!!) a D3

Physical media sales are falling, download sales are rising. Its the way its going to go, no doubt. Music is an artform, not a commodity, and that old model that the record companies built themselves on is now failing.

I dont think it will be that long until currency (as coins and notes) is a thing of the past either. Sounds ridiculous, but 20 years ago who would have thought so many people would be able to do video calls from handheld devices?

Im with Clockd, perhaps he and I ARE a dying breed, but I dont think well be extinct any time very soon (I certainly hope to be around for a while longer yet anyway).

I see the benefit of having your stuff on a central system AS WELL as physical media, hell I do it myself. Not with films (yet) but every CD I own is encoded to OGG and therefore available throughout my house at the click of a button curtosy of my mighty central music server.

I still own the CDs though. What if I want to take a few disks with me to a party (ok, MP3 player here we go, but doesnt work so well with films)? what if my HDD craps out on me? what if the PC just falls over and it takes me a week to get parts, Im not going to live that long without music.

Even if it comes to the point where all music and films are distributed media free, Ill still be burning them to disk for archive purposes.

Media on demand has potential, but youve got to trust the company in question not to go tits up at an awkward moment and take your collection with it. Youre also at the mercy of their server downtime. Imagine, youre throwing a house party and suddenly the sound system kicks up a server error. No thanks.

Youre still basing that on *todays* technology - this is exactly my point.

CDs and DVDs are also very fragile. You cant break a file stored in 99 different places in the world simultaneously. A fire in your house doesnt damage files in africa.

MTBF for storage devices now is getting higher and higher.

Im sure people 100 years ago thought things like what if this new fangled electric iron doesnt heat, ill keep the heat on the fire one

Ive never owned a Stereo, I own several DVD players that in total have probably had less than 100 hours use (thats going back to the oldest one being about 7years old (at least!)

Im more of a fan of somthing that gives me multiple options.

You take CDs to a party.. I take my IPOD - More chance of you coming home with a missing or scratched CD than there is of me coming home with a borked Ipod.

For me, on-demand is everything. currently have 2TB of Movies, episodes & Music all at a touch of a button.

The sooner it becomes mainstream & not a specialist "hobby", the better. Its a bitch having so many cross platforms for media extenders, etc.

Blueray/HD-DVD, I dont really care which takes off. Prices of media will drop. I remember when CDRs cost £7 each. I was estatic when they cost £1 each & then when you could buy 100 & have change for £30.

As for movies, music, etc. - The future wont be that you buy them, but instead Rent them for a monthly fee.
Most people can probably only afford to buy maybe a total of 5 Music Albums/DVDs a month. Instead, you would pay a monthly subscription & have access to a publishers entire catalog & back-catalog.

TV will prob be the same, itll be all delivered by IP as well.

Its sh*t at the minute, but its going to get better, fast.